Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 19:41 -0800, Geoff Schmidt wrote: As a new Agoran I have learned two things. - Small, easily overlooked words such as currency can be very important. - It is never safe to assume that players will not collude. Also, even though I suck at it, I now think this is the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 20:48 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: 1. The Rules of Agora no longer say that after someone wins, anything else happens. 2. In a game, if someone wins, and nothing else happens, the game is over. 3. The Rules of Agora are a game. 4. Agora is over. Uh...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I find the thought that Agora maybe just accidentally ended hilarious. Almost so much that I want it to be true. But I think we're safe. The game of agora, and of nomics in general, is well-established as not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: I find the thought that Agora maybe just accidentally ended hilarious. Almost so much that I want it to be true. But I think we're safe. The game of agora, and of nomics in general, is well-established as not being a normal game. This reminds me of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Geoff Schmidt
Arguments: When we survey what are commonly called games, we find many games that end upon a win, but also many games that do not end upon a win. An example of the latter is America's National Football League. In the NFL, players are grouped into teams, the wins of each team are tallied over

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Fool
On 2014-02-06 10:15 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: Arguments: There is nothing in the rules saying that Agora has ended. Past precedent, custom, and the good of the game all point to Agora not having ended. How can you possibly invoke good of the game here? -Dan, for Evil Queen Davy.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-06 Thread Fool
On 2014-02-06 5:03 PM, Geoff Schmidt wrote: Arguments: When we survey what are commonly called games, we find many games that end upon a win, but also many games that do not end upon a win. An example of the latter is America's National Football League. Football definitely ends when one team

DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-05 Thread Geoff Schmidt
As a new Agoran I have learned two things. - Small, easily overlooked words such as currency can be very important. - It is never safe to assume that players will not collude. Also, even though I suck at it, I now think this is the finest game on the Internet. - Shredder On Wed, Feb 5, 2014

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-05 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Geoff Schmidt ge...@geoffschmidt.com wrote: As a new Agoran I have learned two things. - Small, easily overlooked words such as currency can be very important. This is pretty tame, as scams go. Every word matters. - It is never safe to assume that players

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-05 Thread Fool
On 2014-02-05 10:41 PM, Geoff Schmidt wrote: Also, even though I suck at it, I now think this is the finest game on the Internet. Second finest, surely. -Dan

DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, omd wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I board nichdel's ship and pillage eir operator collection. I transfer all my operators to omd. I board G.'s ship and pillage eir operator collection. Now I have 5 7 i - 2 i 0 2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: Shredder's adoption passed just when I was on the way out to dinner, and I thought don't have time to make a move, so bet my Operators are gone by the time I come back. Agora did not disappoint. Nice. ps. are we now in an unstable equilibrium?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Avast (second try)

2014-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, omd wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: ps. are we now in an unstable equilibrium? Well, operators haven't been destroyed, so someone else can probably do the same thing, if that's what you mean. Incidentally, there's