Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > >I disagree because of the fact that this is a game. While we have a fair > >notion of ethics/justice here, principled voting is hindered by the > generally > >feeling on one side of "it's just a game and what e did is no big deal and > >was kinda cool why

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread VJ Rada
>I disagree because of the fact that this is a game. While we have a fair >notion of ethics/justice here, principled voting is hindered by the generally >feeling on one side of "it's just a game and what e did is no big deal and >was kinda cool why should I bother to vote to punish" and on the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > Right now our pledge system is based on bills of attainder (or more > > correctly bills of pains and penalties), rather than justice. > > A further note: seperation of powers is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea > in a system in which the legislative

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread VJ Rada
> Right now our pledge system is based on bills of attainder (or more > correctly bills of pains and penalties), rather than justice. A further note: seperation of powers is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea in a system in which the legislative power is exercised by everybody and the judicial

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 2:20 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > > I support: I didn't pay for the Estate. > > > > > > Pledges are great right now! I love them. The "explicit restatement" rule > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread VJ Rada
It's better than the punishment for literally every other offense, which is basically the King delivering judgement (3 times a week on eir own initiative and the rest when called upon by only one person) with no opportunity for defense. If we get comprehensive criminal CFJs, we can ditch current

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 2:20 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > I support: I didn't pay for the Estate. > > > > Pledges are great right now! I love them. The "explicit restatement" rule > > should be removed though. > > I agree I prefer a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I support: I didn't pay for the Estate. > > Pledges are great right now! I love them. The "explicit restatement" rule > should be removed though. I agree I prefer a lightweight, straightforward, relatively easy-to-track (and free!) option instead of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread VJ Rada
I support: I didn't pay for the Estate. Pledges are great right now! I love them. The "explicit restatement" rule should be removed though. On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > You didn't explicitly restate the reasons, so that failed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-19 Thread Aris Merchant
You didn't explicitly restate the reasons, so that failed. Also, that requirement is silly. Is everyone willing to just replace pledges with a special kind of contracts? -Aris On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 2:07 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I support. > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:05

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-18 Thread ATMunn
Makes sense. On 11/18/2017 4:53 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: On 11/18/2017 4:38 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I pledgw that I paid for the Estate of Dawsburgen. On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:47 PM, ATMunn wrote: What do you mean by pledging that you did something? Under the current rules, pledges don’t do

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-18 Thread Owen Jacobson
On 11/18/2017 4:38 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I pledgw that I paid for the Estate of Dawsburgen. On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:47 PM, ATMunn wrote: > What do you mean by pledging that you did something? Under the current rules, pledges don’t do anything on their own, and there’s no formal connection

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-18 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-11-18 at 16:47 -0500, ATMunn wrote: > What do you mean by pledging that you did something? A pledge is basically like a promise. You can make promises about things that happened in the past in addition to things that will happen in the future, so I don't see why pledges would be any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-18 Thread VJ Rada
Means if the CFJ is judged past the statute of limitations, y'all can still call it in & punish me. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:47 AM, ATMunn wrote: > What do you mean by pledging that you did something? > > > On 11/18/2017 4:38 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > >> Yes, I will wait >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-18 Thread ATMunn
What do you mean by pledging that you did something? On 11/18/2017 4:38 PM, VJ Rada wrote: Yes, I will wait That reminds me? I think the statute of limitatins has passed since I may have failed to pay for that estate. I pledgw that I paid for the Estate of Dawsburgen. Also, what happened to

DIS: Re: BUS: Fingers

2017-11-18 Thread VJ Rada
Yes, I will wait That reminds me? I think the statute of limitatins has passed since I may have failed to pay for that estate. I pledgw that I paid for the Estate of Dawsburgen. Also, what happened to that CFJ? On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > If the