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2011-01-08 Thread omd
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: Promotor's Proposal Pool Report CoE: R2140 might also be a proposal in the pool. No, it's definitely not.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2010-10-10 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 01:09 -0400, omd wrote: Oops. I pay fees to make the following distributable: title: The Robot title: Distributed Proposal 6830 This one was Distributable anyway, despite the former Promotor's claims to the contrary. title: A Perpetuum mobile is possible -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2010-10-09 Thread Ed Murphy
omd wrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: title: Erratification ai: 1.0 interest: 1 proposer: omd submit_date: 2010-09-19 submit_mid: aanlkti=uoeruenrio7hcd8fvtxpjrajfvstz1kphn...@mail.gmail.com distributability: undistributable Ratify the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report, 24 September 2010

2010-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: malice. Besides, the proposal is undistributable (to my knowledge) and stupid, and thus my failure to mention it is essentially inconsequential. I initiate an election for Promotor. I note that I've had a particularly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report, 24 September 2010

2010-09-27 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problem with missing a proposal.  Announcing that it's inconsequential because you think the proposal is stupid isn't something I think we expect from our Promotor, though. Noted. I will be more civil in the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool report

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Keba wrote: URGENT PROPOSAL title: Demarcation chamber: Purple ai: 2.0 interest: 1 proposer: omd submit_date: 2010-09-04 submit_mid: aanlktik-txo=8e4qo1mszmhng77_dqtnta91fjan3...@mail.gmail.com distributability: undistributable distributability flipped: 2010-09-04 00:00:00

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-09-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:35, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Roger Hickspidge...@gmail.com wrote: CoE: The above proposal is distributable (it was submitted as part of my Anarchist duties). Admitted; for some reason I thought you had to explicitly

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-08-10 Thread C-walker
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:22 PM, C-walkercharles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: chamber: ordinary ai: 1.0 interest: 1 proposer: C-walker coauthors: Wooble title: Livenomic Recognition submit_date: 2009-07-28

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: e CAN certainly publish a report; but I don't see how R101 makes it a self-ratifying report. Precedent says that if you SHALL perform an action by some mechanism, you CAN do

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: I CFJ {{ The Conductor CAN publish a self-ratifying report. }} Evidence: R2126 states: The Conductor is an office. As soon as possible after this text becomes a part of this rule, the Conductor SHALL publish a self-ratifying report containing the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-06-29 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/29 C-walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com:      A player CAN flip a specified Interested proposal to      Distributable without a number of objections equal to -II + 4      (where II is the Interest Index of the specified proposal). A      player CAN flip a specified Disinterested

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-06-29 Thread C-walker
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:04 AM, comexcom...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:43 PM, C-walkercharles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: This has been reported as undistributable in the past two proposal pool reports, when I remember spending D to make it Distributable on Fri, Jun 12,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-06-28 Thread comex
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:43 PM, C-walkercharles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: This has been reported as undistributable in the past two proposal pool reports, when I remember spending D to make it Distributable on Fri, Jun 12, at 5:31 PM, to be exact. I CoE that this proposal should be

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-06-08 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Aaron Goldfeinaarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: chamber: democratic ai: 2.0 interest: 1 proposer: Yally coauthors: Murphy title: IADoP CAN and SHALL submit_date: 2009-05-27

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-06-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Aaron Goldfeinaarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: Denied.  You made the proposal with the same title submitted

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous report (power-1 Rule) is less serious than ratifying one (Class-8 Crime). Yes, but if the report is incorrect I'm obligated to publish an incorrect report weekly, making the cumulative

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous report (power-1 Rule) is less serious than ratifying one (Class-8 Crime). Yes, but if the report is incorrect I'm obligated to publish an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread comex
Not to mention that an equivalent proprosal would probably limit it to 1-2 weeks. Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:10 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: You raise a good point though: if you can avoid a forced crime by resigning, are you required to resign rather than choose the lesser crime? That's true in the real world (the honorable resignation) If interpreted that here way it's a bug;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: If the error is wholly unknown, it's not a crime. Not necessarily; if it's reasonable for them to know, then it's still a crime. If they miss a proposal made last week, it's probably a crime. A proposal made last year, notsomuch.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: If the error is wholly unknown, it's not a crime. Not necessarily; if it's reasonable for them to know, then it's still a crime. If they miss a proposal made last week, it's probably a crime. A proposal made last year, notsomuch. All

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Elliott Hird
Y-- thr--t-n-d t- w-th th- c-b-l -nd n-t-ry. On 2009-05-28, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:10 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: You raise a good point though: if you can avoid a forced crime by resigning, are you required to resign rather than choose the lesser crime?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 18:57 -0400, comex wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Gratuitous: As judge didn't notice the ratification attempt; if I had noticed it I would have delayed the judgement to avoid the issue. Since the judgement found that,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 23:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: In any case, if I'm GUILTY I believe 8 rests would be an excessive punishment. Agreed, and I would ask people to please stop putting large punishments on things they fear would be scammed when they're far more likely to affect legitimate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 23:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: In any case, if I'm GUILTY I believe 8 rests would be an excessive punishment. Agreed, and I would ask people to please stop putting large punishments on things they fear would be scammed when

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:44 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: This was sent two hours after Goethe's judgement that a certain other proposal existed in the pool.  Accordingly, NoV: Wooble violated R2202 and committed the Class-8

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:41 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: While ais523 was able to find one proposal that was in the pool that was not in the published report, simply adding that proposal to the report would not have guaranteed the accuracy of the report, any more than my looking through the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ, noting that the Accused had plenty of warning and the opportunity to avoid violating the rule. Arguments in my defense: While ais523 was able to find one proposal that was in

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: Arguments in my defense: While ais523 was able to find one proposal that was in the pool that was not in the published report, simply adding that proposal to the report would not have guaranteed the accuracy of the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Gratuitous:  As judge didn't notice the ratification attempt; if I had noticed it I would have delayed the judgement to avoid the issue. Since the judgement found that, to the best of available evidence, there had been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale proposals from the pool. And since I don't know what they all are, someone would claim that the proposal didn't specify which proposals clearly enough.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale proposals from the pool. And since I don't know what they all are, someone would

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: -Goethe See, I forget too. I'll get it eventually. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/25/09 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: [snip] ps. court cases raised about a document should block ratification, not just self-ratificatation; generalization of R2201 in order here? I don't think that's a good idea unless CFJs raised about a document can be more clearly/objectively identified.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale proposals from the pool. I did in fact do just that, assuming that I'd get an objection. However, when I didn't, I figured trying to get an AI-3 proposal passed