Note that a judgement of UNDECIDABLE will not allow you to win by
paradox, as a turtle's paradox cannot arise from the case itself, per
rule 2358.
Also, TRUE is an incorrect judgement, because you have not won the
game, regardless of what the judgement says. If I CFJ'd I have won
the game in 2012. and it was judged TRUE, that would be an incorrect
judgement; judgements can interpret the rules, but not override them.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Note that a judgement of UNDECIDABLE will not allow you to win by
paradox, as a turtle's paradox cannot arise from the case itself, per
rule 2358.
Oh, you're right. I guess I should have spent more time
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Also, TRUE is an incorrect judgement, because you have not won the
game, regardless of what the judgement says. If I CFJ'd I have won
the game in 2012. and it was judged TRUE, that would be an incorrect
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Ozymandias Haynes
ozymandias.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Also, TRUE is an incorrect judgement, because you have not won the
game, regardless of what the judgement says. If I CFJ'd
Also, hello Agora! I really like the game you have going here. The
FLR is a beautiful work with many elegant solutions to difficult
philosophical and logical problems.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Ozymandias Haynes
ozymandias.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Elliott
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ozymandias Haynes
ozymandias.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, hello Agora! I really like the game you have going here. The
FLR is a beautiful work with many elegant solutions to difficult
philosophical and logical problems.
Hullo to you, and welcome. Agora
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Ozymandias Haynes wrote:
Also, hello Agora! I really like the game you have going here. The
FLR is a beautiful work with many elegant solutions to difficult
philosophical and logical problems.
And also, welcome - nice introductory move! -G.
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Ozymandias Haynes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Note that a judgement of UNDECIDABLE will not allow you to win by
paradox, as a turtle's paradox cannot arise from the case itself, per
rule 2358.
Oh,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Ozymandias Haynes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Note that a judgement of UNDECIDABLE will not allow you to win by
paradox, as a
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Ozymandias Haynes wrote:
I have another idea for a win by paradox which circumvents the
restrictions on self-reference. As I am ignorant of Agoran custom, I
thought I would ask first: would it be poor form of me to submit a new
CFJ before the first one has worked its
On 28 June 2012 17:07, Ozymandias Haynes ozymandias.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think this CFJ alone would constitute a win, but I could
submit a distinct claim of victory and in the case of a TRUE or FALSE
judgment here, cite the CFJ as evidence. No?
It is easy to see that this would not
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 28 June 2012 17:07, Ozymandias Haynes ozymandias.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think this CFJ alone would constitute a win, but I could
submit a distinct claim of victory and in the case of a TRUE or
If a judgement is incorrect, it's just incorrect: there's no reason why a case
should end up with an inappropriate judgement, unless a judicial panel is too
hasty with AFFIRM/OVERRULE, but if it does, and it's widely accepted the
judgement was incorrect, it's not the end of the world (the
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Ozymandias Haynes wrote:
But in any case, you could always say that a certain controversial
judgment is wrong. Indeed, I would expect players with strong views
contrary to any official judgment to have this belief, and divided
belief on some point is the reason for the
See also CFJ 1346, although that case didn't preclude the possibility of
incorrect judgements affecting things, as game custom has since. Or Lindrum
World. Rule 217 actually does give force to past judgements, but only as one
factor in cases of inclarity.
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On Jun 28,
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, com...@gmail.com wrote:
If a judgement is incorrect, it's just incorrect: there's no reason why a
case should end up with an inappropriate judgement, unless a judicial panel
is too hasty with AFFIRM/OVERRULE, but if it does, and it's widely accepted
the judgement was
Only Victory Announcements. Calling CFJs prevents self-ratification, but
judging them doesn't restart it.
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On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, com...@gmail.com wrote:
If a judgement is incorrect, it's just
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 09:52 -0700, Ozymandias Haynes wrote:
I have another idea for a win by paradox which circumvents the
restrictions on self-reference. As I am ignorant of Agoran custom, I
thought I would ask first: would it be poor form of me to submit a new
CFJ before the first one has
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:51 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
There used to be a rule limiting it to five
per player per week, but the limit isn't really needed in practice. Two
or three is perfectly fine, though.
Actually, that limit still exists:
An excess case is a new
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