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CoE: Between your last report and this one, I bought a stamp from Agora. I'm COEing bc obviously that would change the values again. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:23 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > >> coe: when aris

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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 1:40 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > " Date of last report: Tue, 26 Sep 2017" > > This is wrong, although it doesn't matter. Is it? The last correct report, up to information known at the time of publication, was on that date. I actually picked that

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" Date of last report: Tue, 26 Sep 2017" This is wrong, although it doesn't matter. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I deny the claim of error raised by VTMunn. > > I accept the claims of error raised by Aris, and publish the following > revision of the

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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:20 AM Aris Merchant wrote: > CoE: I think I bought a stamp a few weeks ago when everything was cheap. You did, on Sept. 5th. 2017-09-04 ! Aris created a stamp Agora 4 Shinies

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CoE: I think I bought a stamp a few weeks ago when everything was cheap. -Aris On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:35 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 132. > > Secretary's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: Wed, 3 Oct 2017 > Date of last report:

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I made Gaelan give them to you with an agency of his. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Rubin Stacy wrote: > Where'd I get twenty shinies? > > -- > Trigon > -- > > On Oct 3, 2017 7:35 PM, "Owen Jacobson" wrote: >> >> 864 Shinies Player

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Where'd I get twenty shinies? -- Trigon -- On Oct 3, 2017 7:35 PM, "Owen Jacobson" wrote: > > 864 Shinies Player > 51 ShiniesATMunn > 70 ShiniesAlexis > 12 ShiniesAris > 65 ShiniesCuddleBeam >

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I paid Agora 17 shinies earlier today. You probably missed it. On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Trigon wrote: > > > > I'd love to contribute to the economic stabilization; however, being a >

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Trigon wrote: > > I'd love to contribute to the economic stabilization; however, being a > shiniless scrub, I cannot. I extend thanks to everyone who is involved in > this effort. As it happens, there are now enough Shinies in Agora’s

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Try this on a public forum. However, the spirit of your generosity is very much appreciated. -o > On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:11 PM, ATMunn . wrote: > > I currently have 51 shinies. > I give Agora 17 shinies. > > [I really have nothing better to do with them anyways, so I

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I'd love to contribute to the economic stabilization; however, being a shiniless scrub, I cannot. I extend thanks to everyone who is involved in this effort. On 9/25/2017 10:41 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 25

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On 09/25/2017 11:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: I will issue everyone who does this a trust token (all at once, with my charity report) and will try to think of a more substantial token of gratitude. Thank you. -Aris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:53 PM VJ Rada

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I currently have 51 shinies. I give Agora 17 shinies. [I really have nothing better to do with them anyways, so I might as well help out.] On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Per random.org, I give Agora 13

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Basically, with the current system, it's trading shinies around to see what happens. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Kerim Aydin

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I will issue everyone who does this a trust token (all at once, with my charity report) and will try to think of a more substantial token of gratitude. Thank you. -Aris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:53 PM VJ Rada wrote: > I have like 62 I think? I give Agora 20 shinies. > > On

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> On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> * The reward for authoring or pending a successful proposal pended with >> shinies is 1 sh. > > Ok, so as much as I understand the assessor's lateness, I suspect

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > * The reward for authoring or pending a successful proposal pended with > shinies is 1 sh. Ok, so as much as I understand the assessor's lateness, I suspect it cost me personally a fair purse of shinies. I'm at the point where I'm ready to call the

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The following is not a claim of error. > On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 114. > > This week: > > * Pending a proposal costs 1 AP or 6 sh. > * Calling for judgement, if a player, costs 1 AP or 6 sh. > * The

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On Mon, 19 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > I should note that (mostly in honour of Bucky) I've been intentionally > trying to increase the ability of nonplayers to be able to participate I may or may not have been doing so over the past couple years in honor of a different non-player.

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On Sat, 2017-06-17 at 14:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > It's my impression that in the last 3-4 years, the number of places > the rules say "person" instead of "player" has crept up (I haven't > done a count or anything).  That was a lot of slow-play time, so a > lot of the things that have been

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On Jun 19, 2017, at 1:13 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > - time of last report - > > Events marked with a ! are provisional pending the outcome of one or > more CFJs. This isn’t a typo, incidentally. There really weren’t any Shiny transactions or Organization changes

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On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I can't claim that the clause in the current ruleset is the direct lineage >> from that ancient scam, but I think that since then, there's always been >> something

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I can't claim that the clause in the current ruleset is the direct lineage > from that ancient scam, but I think that since then, there's always been > something high-powered and explicit in the rules that a person must give > informed consent to be

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> I tend to treat the rule about consent as an informative observation about > >> the nature of Agora, and not as a

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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> I tend to treat the rule about consent as an informative observation about >> the nature of Agora, and not as a normative part of the rules. It >> memorializes >>

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I tend to treat the rule about consent as an informative observation about > the nature of Agora, and not as a normative part of the rules. It memorializes > the observation that we all agree that Agora Is A Game, and that playing is > voluntary. We

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > * If you pledge to do a thing, then Agorans can evaluate whether you > have broken your pledge or not, regardless of your consent. > > * The Referee can (maybe; see the other arm of this thread) issue > you a card, regardless of your consent. > > *

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> On Jun 17, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> 6. If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the >>> rules, >>> is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? >>

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > 6. If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the > > rules, > > is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? > > 7. It is not necessary that someone be bound to the rules in order for them > to

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > One possible Agoran solution - to both questions - would be a high- > Power rule whose effect is to nullify game actions (for some suitable > definition thereof) made by non-players. I was discussing this whole > affair with my fiancée this evening

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> On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote: >>> Which rule is authorizing the issuance of a card? >> Rule 2450, where it says that breaking a pledge is a cardable offense. > > Food for thought: > > 1. CAN is the

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On Jun 16, 2017, at 8:44 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > >Kerim Aydin > >'s > > post > > To add to that, can non-players perform unregulated actions? > > Non-players actually being

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>Kerim Aydin 's post To add to that, can non-players perform unregulated actions? Non-players actually being able to "play" the game without needing to be bound to its rules is already pretty big "hocus

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 12:35 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > 6.  If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the > > rules, > > is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? > > Back when private contracts

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On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 12:35 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > 6.  If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the > rules, > is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? Back when private contracts existed, it was game custom to agree them as "binding

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote: > > Which rule is authorizing the issuance of a card? > Rule 2450, where it says that breaking a pledge is a cardable offense. Food for thought: 1. CAN is the approved way of empowering an action, but there's nothing that says other common-language

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> Which rule is authorizing the issuance of a card? Rule 2450, where it says that breaking a pledge is a cardable offense. I suppose "publicly-made" might be construed to mean "in a public forum", which would prevent Donald Trump from getting a card. I can see the argument as for why G. can't be

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On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 02:34 -0400, 天火狐 wrote: > I don't see how something like the following in the appropriate forum > wouldn't successfully give a card, assuming that it was issued in the right > time frame: "I issue Donald Trump a Green Card for breaking his pledge to > direct his secretary of

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I don't see how something like the following in the appropriate forum wouldn't successfully give a card, assuming that it was issued in the right time frame: "I issue Donald Trump a Green Card for breaking his pledge to direct his secretary of the treasury to label China a currency manipulator."

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On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 02:08 -0400, 天火狐 wrote: > > I don’t think I can do anything about this, formally, since you’re still > > not a player, but if you insist I can put together a theory under which > this should be carded. > > CFJ 1709 states that non-players are still bound to contracts if

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> I don’t think I can do anything about this, formally, since you’re still not a player, but if you insist I can put together a theory under which this should be carded. CFJ 1709 states that non-players are still bound to contracts if they are party to it, with the implication that non-players

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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:53 AM Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 16:00 +, Quazie wrote: > > Wow, that's broken - any public document proporting to be a report > > self-ratifies? > > It's not broken, it's intentional: > > a) Public documents puporting to be

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Yes, they are. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > > Isn't PSS and Publius Scrib(...) the same person? (8 and 45 Shinies)

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I understand that this isn't an actual report, but in the event are going to think it is, my balance should be 15 Shinies after updating the values with respect to my CoE in the prior report. 天火狐 On 15 June 2017 at 10:49, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Secretary's Weekly Report >

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Wow, that's broken - any public document proporting to be a report self-ratifies? On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 08:28 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > > Given there's no way for this report to be published by any one > > other than the current

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Isn't PSS and Publius Scrib(...) the same person? (8 and 45 Shinies)

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > Given there's no way for this report to be published by any one > other than the current office holder as it isn't late, I choose > to ignore it. Please read R2162(c) (noting shiny holdings are switches) and let me know if ignoring it is still a preferred

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I don’t think I can do anything about this, formally, since you’re still not a player, but if you insist I can put together a theory under which this should be carded. nichdel’s already done most of the legwork. This does appear to be a purported report - at least, sending a complete report

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Given there's no way for this report to be published by any one other than the current office holder as it isn't late, I choose to ignore it. But the SLR is late, so if you do the work for that I might not ;) On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 07:49 Kerim Aydin wrote: >

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I’m tracking them by publication date, for the purposes of paydays. -o > On Jun 2, 2017, at 12:29 AM, Quazie wrote: > > For ADOP reasons - this report says it's from the 28th, but today's the 2nd > (utc date obviously) - how do I track the date of the report? > On Thu,

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For ADOP reasons - this report says it's from the 28th, but today's the 2nd (utc date obviously) - how do I track the date of the report? On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 21:26 Owen Jacobson wrote: > Astonishingly, this managed to fall neatly between the various attempts to > keep

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Astonishingly, this managed to fall neatly between the various attempts to keep Shinies in flux. -o > On Jun 2, 2017, at 12:26 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > Secretary's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: Sun, 28 May 2017 signature.asc Description: Message signed

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> I would like to point out that I am not an office (in the recent events > section of the report). > 天火狐 No Player is an Office (CFJ 1895).

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I would like to point out that I am not an office (in the recent events section of the report). 天火狐 On 25 April 2017 at 23:05, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Secretary's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 > Date of last report: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 > > > Recent

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On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Hate to to point this out, and I may be wrong, but... This report appears not > to reflect the several proposals you pended. Might want to update that. So > everyone knows, I'm not planning to release my

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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:00 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I retract the “report” for Thu 6 Jan 2017. It is incorrect. The following > report contains corrections: > > > > Secretary's