Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

2018-02-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I also massively disagree with CFJ 3580, for the " Agora exists > > platonically, and so can exist without the rest of reality" thing, for the > > same reasons that CFJ 3622 gave that judgement. Hi CuddleBeam, I wanted to come back to this a little

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

2018-02-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Is there some way to challenge past CFJs? Besides the moot thing, which is > too late now to do for that. You can always re-call the same statement or similar. The Judge could say "CFJ 3580 was decided wrongly, and this is the new decision." However,

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

2018-02-26 Thread Aris Merchant
Consider that the CFJ ruling is made on the basis of the rules. In some sense, it's the game thinking about itself. There's a pretty strong historical basis for Agorans believing in a platonic reality, so the ruling codifies that. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's actually true, just

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

2018-02-26 Thread Cuddle Beam
(Solely existing in our minds as a "game", the mailing lists and such exist out of our heads of course, but the bits and pixels and whatnot mean nothing until we come around and give it that meaning of being "Agora", but that's further off the main point I want to make that Agora does not exist

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

2018-02-26 Thread Cuddle Beam
Interesting how "CFJ 1911-1914 (called Mar 18, 2008): Physical realities supersede the Rules by default." and "CFJ: 3580 Called: 21 Oct 2017: The rules can override reality for game purposes." are around at the same time. (It works, though) I also massively disagree with CFJ 3580, for the " Agora

DIS: Requests for Annotation

2018-02-25 Thread Aris Merchant
H. Rulekeepor, some suggested annotations follow. I've chosen things that might be of historical interest pretty much randomly. -Aris --- Rule: 869 CFJ: 3625 Called: 12 Feb 2018 Consent to abide by some of the rules does not suffice for registration. Rule: 2141 CFJ: 3622 Called: 7 Feb 2018 A