Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-31 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Reuben Staley wrote: > This. This times a billion. G's post about land reforms a while ago [1] > proposed some really worthwhile ideas about shinies and how they could become > more flexible. I think that if e ever puts the ideas there in place, our > economic system would

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-31 Thread Reuben Staley
This. This times a billion. G's post about land reforms a while ago [1] proposed some really worthwhile ideas about shinies and how they could become more flexible. I think that if e ever puts the ideas there in place, our economic system would be approximately infinity times better. [1]

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-31 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It looks now like getting rid of a monetary cap and stabilizing prices would be the best course of action. On 10/31/2017 01:21 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:11 PM Owen Jacobson > wrote: > > > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:42 AM,

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-31 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
What do you have against the Reportor? On 10/30/2017 10:53 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > How does Agora have no money? There were 32 proposals last week > > We really need to decrease reward amounts. Have hard jobs: Rulekeepor, > Treasuror be 5, all the way down to like reportor as 1. > > On Tue, Oct

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
There is a significant possibility that implementing that system would cause infinite exponential inflation. If we could control that, it sounds workable. -Aris On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:43 PM VJ Rada wrote: > Why do we not just have Agora just be infinitely rich and tie

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
Why do we not just have Agora just be infinitely rich and tie floating values on how much was spent (now meaning destroyed) in the last week? Higher floating value if more was spent, lower if less was. Or the other way around. I'm not a wizard. Whichever corresponds to the current system. On Tue,

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
The problem is that between the CFJ judgement rewards and Basic income, if say PSS went mad and called 90 CFJs, 90 of those shinies would be redistributed, and then 180 would eventually be given to the judges of those CFJs, if they claimed their rewards. With proposals also, given that most of

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Um, ok, I was about to continue the thread after looking at the > > SLR, and I can't find (in most recent SLR) where the Floating > > Value is changed? Am I missing a

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:11 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:42 AM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > >> Well, I'll agree about welcome packages. However, the report rates are >

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 31, 2017, at 1:11 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Other than mechanical issues, I’m starting to think that Passive Income might > actually work, and that if we can improve the reliability and durability of > those transactions, we might be able to reduce rewards slightly

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > Um, ok, I was about to continue the thread after looking at the > SLR, and I can't find (in most recent SLR) where the Floating > Value is changed? Am I missing a conceptual change that happened? I

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
Um, ok, I was about to continue the thread after looking at the SLR, and I can't find (in most recent SLR) where the Floating Value is changed? Am I missing a conceptual change that happened?

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Well, I'll agree about welcome packages. However, the report rates are >> actually >> pretty reasonable. They do tend to accumulate for players with a lot of >>

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
I just suggested that welcome packages were double what they should be, yes. But basic officers should get ~50% above baseline activity for offices that are worth doing - that's where they are now. I agree - some offices aren't worth keeping around but start by pruning offices (and getting

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
There are like 20 reports. That's 400 bucks a month from Agora. Welcome packages are 50 a player. All Agora's revenue from CFJs and proposals is pretty much paid right back in rewards for judging and pending. And half of all revenue is taken and given to poor players. Agora has to be shelling out

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Well, I'll agree about welcome packages. However, the report rates are > actually > pretty reasonable. They do tend to accumulate for players with a lot of > offices, > but for those (including me) with onky a few offices, they're actually pretty

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
Well, I'll agree about welcome packages. However, the report rates are actually pretty reasonable. They do tend to accumulate for players with a lot of offices, but for those (including me) with onky a few offices, they're actually pretty low. Also, I feel like your rate slider doesn't scale quite

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:09 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 00:02 Kerim Aydin > wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > The wealthy people are wealthy _because_ of exorbitant report rates > >

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 00:02 Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > The wealthy people are wealthy _because_ of exorbitant report rates > > and welcome packages. > > Well what the heck do you expect them to do with the funds - you can > only pend so

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > The wealthy people are wealthy _because_ of exorbitant report rates > and welcome packages. Well what the heck do you expect them to do with the funds - you can only pend so many proposals and its nuts to make them cheaper the more Agora needs money.

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
The wealthy people are wealthy _because_ of exorbitant report rates and welcome packages. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I disagree. We need to increase rates and institute a wealth tax. The > problem is those who aren't working but

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
I disagree. We need to increase rates and institute a wealth tax. The problem is those who aren't working but have money built up that they aren't using, not the working class Agorans who toil away preforming useful functions. The fact certain past Reportors have slacked off is no reason to

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:53 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > How does Agora have no money? There were 32 proposals last week > > We really need to decrease reward amounts. Have hard jobs: Rulekeepor, > Treasuror be 5, all the way down to like reportor as 1. Distributions,

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
How does Agora have no money? There were 32 proposals last week We really need to decrease reward amounts. Have hard jobs: Rulekeepor, Treasuror be 5, all the way down to like reportor as 1. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > The following rewards (at