Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

I don't think you can do that any more. IIRC you need to have 2 support AND the position be interim if you aren't the ADoP, or you can initiate an election unilaterally if you are the ADoP and the position is interim, or if you hold the position (which I now do) However, I'm happy to oblige. I

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3580 assigned to G.

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Actually, given that this makes things more interesting... I SH-CFJ (or >> AP-CFJ >> if the action would otherwise fail due to lack of shinies) "If there were >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

I won't stand for this. (this office! Not "I won't stand for this" as in "this is unacceptable") On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> I intend, in between 2 and 14 days, to deputize

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I straight-up resign. If it is possible for me to do so, I initiate an election for the office of Agronomist. I submit the following as a campaign proposal: I think the first action made the second impossible. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report (revision 1)

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 5:50 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I intend without objection to destroy PSS's following pledge > "I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19, 2017, if it is > still possible.”. I don’t believe this to be possible. Rule 2450 (“Pledges”): > To

DIS: Re: BUS: State of the Onion

>>* Referee’s weekly report You actually cannot publish this, I would recommend trying to destroy this pledge. You can indeed call a notary election. The agronomist election you attempted to call did not work because, in the previous sentence, you resigned. You now need two support. Otherwise,

DIS: Re: BUS: Rules

If I am the Referee, I resolve this finger-pointing as SHENANIGANS. As I have (if I am Referee) already issued Gaelan a yellow card, it would be ILLEGAL for me to issue another. On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I point a finger at Gaelan, alleging e did

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

I support as well. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 03:13 Owen Jacobson, wrote: > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > > > Yep. I intend to, with two support, initiate an Agronomist election > > (the position is interim). > > I support. > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

I don't believe the rules respect objections to deputisation intents. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 04:54 Ørjan Johansen, wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > > If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the > > following. If I am, I accept o's CoE

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

Yeah, objection does nothing. The only way for o. to stop me would have been to publish eir own report. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I don't believe the rules respect objections to deputisation intents. > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 04:54 Ørjan Johansen,

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

If I did not receive a reward for my first purported referee weekly report, I claim a 5 shiny reward for this one. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:25 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I accept my CoE. > > This is the Referee's Weekly Report (revision 3. or 2.) > Date of this report: 24 Oct 2017

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

Ineffective, you did not become a candidate. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 05:49 VJ Rada, wrote: > I do so. > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I support as well. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 03:13 Owen Jacobson,

DIS: Land Reforms

I plan to run for the office of Surveyor with a proposed set of land reforms. The incumbant's tenure has been marked with a low, supply- side policy that has marginalized land and made it a part of the ongoing economic malaise - eir campaign proposal is an inadequate response to our ongoing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

Er, which election? On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I initiate and stand for the election. My campaign proposal is as follows. > > Title: Agronomist-Surveyor Combination > Author: VJ Rada > Text: Repeal rule 2504 "The Agronomist". Amend rule 2488 "The > Surveyor" by adding the text at

Re: DIS: Land Reforms

This seems like a neat idea. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 13:42 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I plan to run for the office of Surveyor with a proposed set of land > reforms. The incumbant's tenure has been marked with a low, supply- > side policy that has marginalized land and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

I initiate and stand for the Agronomist election (to avoid it all getting repealed). My campaign proposal is as follows. Title: Agronomist-Surveyor Combination Author: VJ Rada Text: Repeal rule 2504 "The Agronomist". Amend rule 2488 "The Surveyor" by adding the text at the end "The Surveyor's

Re: DIS: Land Reforms

I'm onboard with this, but I have a few things I'd like to address. On 10/24/2017 11:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> I plan to run for the office of Surveyor with a proposed set of land reforms. The incumbant's tenure has been marked with a low, supply- side policy that has marginalized land and

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

I can't find any references to the Superintendent in the rules. Were they part of something that got repealed recently? On 2017-10-25 10:34, ATMunn wrote: My first report! You may notice that this looks different in some ways than what you're used to; I have changed some formatting things

DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

Do you mean 4 shinies to Gaelan, not G.? Or am I missing something. Gaelan looks like e has the third least. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I’m going to do this longhand, to make sure that I get it right. As I read > the rules, if any of the following

DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

By the way, it's pretty easy if you happen to be the Treasuror to scam this rule to win any Estate auction. Simply give away all your shinies except 1, and pay it to Agora any number of times to pay Agora infinite money. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

Just re-saying as well that you might have missed my previous message: Why did G. get the money? And if you meant Gaelan, shouldn't e have had initial balance 8 when you were redistributing ais's stamp buy? On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:38 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > By the way, it's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

I'm not the only one who feels like this is a horribly designed rule? For a start, basic income is designed to overcome the cost of living, which in Agora is 0. You could also argue its purpose is already fulfilled by Action Points, which are far simpler, far more effective, and far less

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 1:00 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Do you mean 4 shinies to Gaelan, not G.? Or am I missing something. Gaelan > looks like e has the third least. Nope. Pure thinko on my part. Fortunately, it’s easily corrected - that part of the payment was simply

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:08 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 7940* Alexis, [3]3.0 High Power Cleanup Alexis 1 AP >> > > I withdraw this proposal, submit the following,

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:08 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:07 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If people could try to keep

DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

Looks good to me. Those match my records. -o > On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:14 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the > following. If I am, I accept o's CoE and publish the following. I > found the two green cards and two

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

Oh sorry you just thought you needed to pend it. Yeah, Alexis is right, they're free. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:40 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > Uh...players can unilaterally initiate elections for offices they hold. > That election is initiated. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:38 PM,

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about > 24 hours so I could get this out, it would be nice. > > -Aris > Noticed something else: I believe you're missing the campaign proposals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

The text of the rules has this to say: "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, an Official proposal is always pending. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, players CANNOT claim rewards for the adoption of an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:47 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > > pending. > > If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already >

DIS: Re: BUS: State of the Onion

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:44 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > It's alright. We forgive you. > > By the way, is there a reason why you're initiating an election for Notary? > The Contracts proposal specifically makes you the Notary. There is. Direct nomination is a good way of

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

Remember, periods are Agoran Weeks, not 7 days. I know bc I made the same mistake for like four reports. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 19:34 ATMunn wrote: >> >> My first report! You may notice that this

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Revised FLR

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 at 06:55 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > Annotations: > {"cfjs"=>[{"id"=>"24", "called"=>nil}], "text"=>"Players must obey the > Rules even in out-of-game actions."} > {"cfjs"=>[{"id"=>"825", "called"=>"7 November 1995"}], >

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Consequently, I'm considering dropping out of the race in favour of Trigon, > but I have a few questions for em: > > 1. What method do you plan to use to keep the ruleset up to date? > 2. A past practice of Rulekeepors has

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about > 24 hours so I could get this out, it would be nice. > > -Aris > That's not really how officeholding works...

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:07 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about >> 24 hours so I could get this out, it would be nice. >> >>

Re: DIS: HLR inquiry

The lack of a g is an error, but the rest is correct. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:36 Owen Jacobson wrote: > Is it true that we have a rule whose title is “Campain Proposals, with > power 3” with power 1? Or is that a scrivener’s error? > > -o > >

DIS: HLR inquiry

Is it true that we have a rule whose title is “Campain Proposals, with power 3” with power 1? Or is that a scrivener’s error? -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > pending. If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already pending, does it then pay out shinies if it passes? -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:47 Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > > pending. > > If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:03 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Oh my god! It costs more than 1 shiny to pend a proposal! This is practically > _unconstitutional_ > > I buy a stamp. You already created one this month, on Oct 12th. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

On Tue, 2017-10-24 at 23:05 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Looking at the ruleset, it looks like the organization repeal finally > went through, but i can’t find the message where any such proposal > was enacted. I’ll drop this from future reports (and account for the > organizations being

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

Agencies were repealed in favor of contracts. On 10/24/2017 5:41 PM, Madeline wrote: I can't find any references to the Superintendent in the rules. Were they part of something that got repealed recently? On 2017-10-25 10:34, ATMunn wrote: My first report! You may notice that this looks

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

CoE: I am the Assessor. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:34 ATMunn wrote: > My first report! You may notice that this looks different in some ways > than what you're used to; I have changed some formatting things from > V.J. Rada's last ADoP report (mainly the spacing, but

DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about 24 hours so I could get this out, it would be nice. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

I found a typo. I'm sure this isn't your fault Aris, but attn ATMunn " In the 7 days of an Agoran month, any player CAN declare emself to be eligible for a Medal of Honour by announcement if all of the following are true:" This should say either first 7 days or last 7 days, not just 7 days.

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

I sent you a GitHub invite as owner. To all rulekeepor candidates: please try not to make changes without agreement among yourselves until one of you is elected. We don't want edit wars, or even an accidental mess. -Aris On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Reuben Staley

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

The most recent resolution, on Oct 22, which accidentally omitted the full text. But the proposal that did it was "Contracts v8". On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > > Budgets:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

Although that info is all nonmandatory of course. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:05 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > Remember, periods are Agoran Weeks, not 7 days. I know bc I made the > same mistake for like four reports. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Alexis Hunt

DIS: Questions for Trigon

I am uncertain if I want to dedicate the work to the ruleset, if someone else is willing to do so. After picking through the ruleset published by PSS, however, I have serious concerns about others. PSS's ruleset was rushed in order to deputise first and contains glaring errors including a

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

Most of my errors can be attributed to either not yet understanding the system for generating the ruleset or Gaelan's errors. Now, that I understand how the raw files are processed better, I do not believe any new errors will be introduced. Additionally, to you and everyone, what concerns do you

Re: DIS: Revised High-Power Cleanup

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Revised based on feedback. > > Proposal: High Power Cleanup (AI=3, coauthors=G, PSS) > {{{ > Text in square brackets is not a substantive part of this proposal and is > ignored when it takes effect. > > Amend Rule 105,

Re: DIS: Land Reforms

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I plan to run for the office of Surveyor with a proposed set of land > reforms. The incumbant's tenure has been marked with a low, supply- > side policy that has marginalized land and made it a part of the >

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

>ID: 7942 >Author: V.J. Rada This and 7943 are written by Alexis, not me. You have it right in the introductory summary bit. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about > 24

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

Uh...players can unilaterally initiate elections for offices they hold. That election is initiated. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 2:48 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > > > >> On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:46 AM, VJ

Re: DIS: HLR inquiry

It's true, the proposal messed it up and a CFJ that iirc was judged by Aris and called by Orjan found that the way that the proposal phrased it mandated that it be called that. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Is it true that we have a rule whose title

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual pending. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:38 Owen Jacobson wrote: > I stand for election. > > I submit the following campaign proposal, and pend it by paying Agora 1 > shiny. > > Title: Farm No More > AI: 2 >

Re: DIS: HLR inquiry

On Tue, 2017-10-24 at 22:36 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Is it true that we have a rule whose title is “Campain Proposals, > with power 3” with power 1? Or is that a scrivener’s error? Assuming you fix the spelling to "Campaign", it was a typo made by the proposer, not the Rulekeepor, and the

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

I'll preface these questions with a story. Earlier this year, I was really into Nomic games, and I thought joining Agora would be fun. But, the big wall of text that was the SLR frightened me and I decided to stay out. When I came back, the HLR existed, and I was a lot less frightened by the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

The one thing I like least about agora's current high activity is there's always one person who answered your question just slightly before you, and one just slightly after. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: State of the Onion

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:50 Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:44 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > > > It's alright. We forgive you. > > > > By the way, is there a reason why you're initiating an election for > Notary? The Contracts proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: State of the Onion

And this is why o held 5 offices, and why its still a good idea to keep em in several of them. Not only did e personally write a good portion of the economy, but you will note that e displays clear symptoms of civic-mindedness. -Airs On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Owen Jacobson

DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > Budgets: > > Player ACU ASaAA 蘭亭社 Expenditure > > nichdel50 50 > Murphy 50 50 > omd 20

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

I've done a lot of work in my own fork, but I won't merge anything unless elected. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:58 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I sent you a GitHub invite as owner. To all rulekeepor candidates: > please try not to make changes without agreement among

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

You already have this month. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 23:03 VJ Rada wrote: > Oh my god! It costs more than 1 shiny to pend a proposal! This is > practically _unconstitutional_ > > I buy a stamp. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >>