On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
I'm having the same trouble when I use gmail in FRC. Couldn't figure out
how to fix so I'd take pointers on that too if anyone has 'em. For here,
it's often worth looking at how things look in the archives instead of
coppro wrote:
I spend A C D to decrease Dvorak Herring's caste.
And what chord would that be, then?
Suppose that, for some reason, a Terrible Proposal is on the ballot. A
large invasion force may join, say, a day before the Assessor is due
to asses the proposal, and vote FOR it. Unless 3 Senators are on
constant surveillance for such things, it may be impossible to stop
the proposal being voted
On Tue, 5 May 2009, Sgeo wrote:
Suppose that, for some reason, a Terrible Proposal is on the ballot. A
large invasion force may join, say, a day before the Assessor is due
to asses the proposal, and vote FOR it. Unless 3 Senators are on
constant surveillance for such things, it may be
2009/5/5 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
I recuse myself.
== CFJ 2477
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
I harvest 2477 for Water Rights Vouchers.
Fails, CFJ2477 was assigned its ID over a week ago (you're about 12 hours late)
2009/5/5 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
I harvest 2477 for Water Rights Vouchers.
Fails, CFJ2477 was assigned its ID over a week ago (you're about 12 hours
late)
Oops.
--
-Tiger
2009/5/5 Rodlen rodlenj...@gmail.com:
I somehow end up with this one. Heh.
Well, this is going to be tough.
How does kicking Comex out of the PNP for a few months sound to you all?
--
--Rodlen
Unreasonable.
2009/5/5 Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com:
Suppose that, for some reason, a Terrible Proposal is on the ballot. A
large invasion force may join, say, a day before the Assessor is due
to asses the proposal, and vote FOR it. Unless 3 Senators are on
constant surveillance for such things, it may be
Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2482a
�Appeal 2482a �
I opine REASSIGN. Precedence is only defined where there is
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
* the AFO
Fails, not first-class
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Benjamin Caplan
celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote:
* since precedence is not explicitly defined where there is no
conflict, R217 defines it in that case.
The text is silent, but if there's no conflict then there's no need
for precedence to be defined and I'd
I vote for this proposal.
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
I submit a proposal with AI=2 and II=1 entitled {You're All Dried Up}
and the following text:
{{{
For each player who did not submit a valid ballot on at least one Agoran
Decision in the month of
2009/5/5 Sam Benner benner...@gmail.com:
I vote for this proposal.
Fails for a few reasons:
* You're not a player
* You sent that to the discussion forum
* That proposal has not been distributed yet
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Sam Benner benner...@gmail.com wrote:
I vote for this proposal.
nttpf. Also, it hasn't been distributed yet. Also, there's no reason
for any lurkers to vote for it, since they can just make themselves
active by announcement right after it passes if it does with
2009/5/5 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com:
* You're not a player
CoE: sorry, nope; you are
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 00:30 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
2009/5/4 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com:
I submit the following proposal, entitled {I Fone}, II=0
{{{
Create a new power-1 rule with the following text:
If a public message claims to have been sent from a particular
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:12 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
Hmm. For me (because I guess my email client uses a non-fixed width
font by default), my reports look good and the root's report looks
bad.
Different email clients use different fonts. A report that's lined up
only for you is not really
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 03:40 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
On 2009-05-05, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
i am a separate person from quazie and i register at this e-mail
address with a nickname of 'gwen.'
Not possible. You need an email.
All the time oklopol was registered, e didn't
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
All the time oklopol was registered, e didn't specify what eir email
address was (making my attempt to report on em as then-Registrar rather
special-cased). We already have one precedent of a player without an
independent
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 00:52 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
I spend A C D to decrease Dvorak Herring's caste.
Fails, those don't form a triad. (A minor triad, which you would need,
is an interval of 3 semitones followed by an interval of 4 semitones.
What you have there is an interval of 3 semitones
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:41 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
Suppose that, for some reason, a Terrible Proposal is on the ballot. A
large invasion force may join, say, a day before the Assessor is due
to asses the proposal, and vote FOR it. Unless 3 Senators are on
constant surveillance for such things, it
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:34 -0500, comex wrote:
Each of the following requests subsidization. Disclaimer: Subsidization
requests fail if the Farmer has already requested subsidization this
week or if e owns at least as many lands as the Federal Subsidy.
* comex
* the AFO
Or if e is
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:18 -0600, Sam Benner wrote:
I vote for this proposal.
It hasn't been distributed yet; wait until the Promotor publishes a
distribution of proposals, then you can vote on it. (It's more
convenient voting on a distribution than on proposals when they're
submitted, anyway.)
2009/5/5 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
All the time oklopol was registered, e didn't specify what eir email
address was (making my attempt to report on em as then-Registrar rather
special-cased). We already have one
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 14:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
All the time oklopol was registered, e didn't specify what eir email
address was (making my attempt to report on em as then-Registrar rather
special-cased). We
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 14:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
All the time oklopol was registered, e didn't specify what eir email
address was (making my attempt
2009/5/5 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 00:52 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
I spend A C D to decrease Dvorak Herring's caste.
Fails, those don't form a triad. (A minor triad, which you would need,
is an interval of 3 semitones followed by an interval of 4 semitones.
What you
Proto-contest: Red November
1. This is a public contract called Red November. This contract is
intended to be a contest. The contestmaster CAN add the Y axis to
and remove any other axis from this contract by announcement.
2. A contestant to this contract who is currently involved in an
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 20:18 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/5 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 00:52 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
I spend A C D to decrease Dvorak Herring's caste.
Fails, those don't form a triad. (A minor triad, which you would need,
is an interval of
ais523 wrote:
Incidentally, if you deregister / are deregistered during a proposal's
voting period, can you still vote on it? I'm not sure offhand.
Yes, Rules 1950 and 2156 both specify entities that were ... players
at the start of its voting period.
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
Proto-contest: Red November
1. This is a public contract called Red November. This contract is
intended to be a contest. The contestmaster CAN add the Y axis to
and remove any other axis from this contract by
On Tue, 5 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
I don't believe I can change my opinion after publishing it, but I'd
be fine with OVERRULE to IRRELEVANT or FALSE.
With 3/5 opinions locked in, the only options unless the panel acts
unanimously are REASSIGN, AFFIRM (no error rating), or (by default)
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 12:20 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
19. If no surviving gnome has any minutes remaining, and the sub has
not been lost, then all surviving gnomes who have not abandoned
their comrades win the game.
20. A gnome who abandons eir comrades wins if all other gnomes lose;
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
9. A gnome's sequence of movement consists of one or more iterations
of the following steps:
a. Spend one minute to Open an unblocked hatch attached to the room
the gnome is in.
b. If one of the rooms
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:25 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
IADoP's Office Report
Does not include reports or duties. I nominate myself, Wooble, and
Goethe as IaDoP.
I nominate Human Point Two
2009/5/5 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com:
evidence: e's *still* subscribed digested:
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/agora-business
eir subscription never worked.
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I am having serious trouble figuring out what happens here if multiple
gnomes abandon their comrades, and the sub is lost.
The phrasing used in the original rules is that a gnome who abandons
has eir winning conditions
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
What if the room connected by the open hatch is at high water and the
other is at low water? No change?
No change, there's no medium water state.
Also, how many minutes does each gnome start with? Is there some
2009/5/5 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com:
Tiger wrote:
I judge TRUE, publishing is clearly done by submitting them to a public
forum.
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this. On-time is arguably
meaningless outside the context of the player required to publish
the judgement. (The
2009/5/5 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com:
Tiger wrote:
I judge TRUE, publishing is clearly done by submitting them to a public
forum.
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this. On-time is arguably
meaningless outside the context of the player required to publish
the judgement. (The
Ed Murphy wrote:
Tiger wrote:
I judge TRUE, publishing is clearly done by submitting them to a public
forum.
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this. On-time is arguably
meaningless outside the context of the player required to publish
the judgement. (The CotC's X judged Y by Z
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this. On-time is arguably
meaningless outside the context of the player required to publish
the judgement. (The CotC's X judged Y by Z messages to a-o are
not part of eir duties,
Pavitra wrote:
I disagree, and I not-support the intent. Judge comex assigned judgement
on time, thus making the judgement an on-time judgement; Murphy then
published that on-time judgement by (re)posting it to a public forum.
The judgement does not become late simply by Murphy's quoting it.
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 12:37 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
Pavitra wrote:
I disagree, and I not-support the intent. Judge comex assigned judgement
on time, thus making the judgement an on-time judgement; Murphy then
published that on-time judgement by (re)posting it to a public forum.
The
Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, how many minutes does each gnome start with? �Is there some
representation of the track?
46-60 minutes, depending on the number of gnomes. The board image
linked to in the appendix has the time
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 14:01 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
I agree to the below referenced agreement (Nomic Wars III), which
becomes a public contract once someone else agrees to it.
I intend, without two objections, to create a medal in the possession
of Nomic Wars III.
Incidentally, you should
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 14:34 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ.
Ugh, someone introduced a bug into R2136. (/me blames Murphy, I think it
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Benjamin Caplan
celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote:
46-60 minutes, depending on the number of gnomes. The board image
linked to in the appendix has the time track running around the edge
of the board.
It would be good to have this explicit, probably in
2009/5/5 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ.
BobTHJ
First you intend to do so, without 3 objections. Easier is perhaps to
amend the
2009/5/5 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ.
BobTHJ
How?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:39, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/5 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ.
BobTHJ
2009/5/5 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 21:43 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
A bug in rule 2136:
{{{
A contract's contestmaster CAN be flipped by any player without 3
objections, or as specified by the contract.
}}}
[That read contest's a while back, it must have
2009/5/5 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:39, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/5 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the
2009/5/5 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:25 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
IADoP's Office Report
Does not include reports or duties. I nominate myself, Wooble, and
Goethe
On 5/5/09, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Proposal: Second-class judges
(AI = 2, please)
[Now that second-class registration is restricted, other restrictions
can be loosened up.]
Amend Rule 1868 (Judge Assignment Generally) by removing first-class
from this text:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/5/5 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:25 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
IADoP's
BobTHJ wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ.
I don't think this works; the condition was written along the lines of
If this contract is a contest and its
On 5/5/09, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:18 -0600, Sam Benner wrote:
I vote for this proposal.
It hasn't been distributed yet; wait until the Promotor publishes a
distribution of proposals, then you can vote on it. (It's more
convenient voting on a
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sent from a device with power 1
CoE: nope
Denied.
1. I'm not sure it's a valid CoE.
2. You can't deny a CoE on someone else's document.
--
Yally wrote:
Does not include reports or duties. I nominate myself, Wooble, and
Goethe as IaDoP.
Do you really need me to list that? It's already in the rules. It's not
like any officer is going to look at my report for how to do his job anyway.
The list of reports used to
2009/5/5 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com:
Proposal: Close the contest loophole
(II = 0, please)
Amend Rule 2136 (Contests) by replacing this text:
A contract's contestmaster CAN be flipped by any player without 3
objections, or as specified by the contract.
with this text:
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 14:06 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to Nomic Wars III.
I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ.
I don't think this works; the condition was written
Sgeo wrote:
On 5/5/09, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Proposal: Second-class judges
(AI = 2, please)
[Now that second-class registration is restricted, other restrictions
can be loosened up.]
Amend Rule 1868 (Judge Assignment Generally) by removing first-class
from this
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Yally wrote:
Does not include reports or duties. I nominate myself, Wooble, and
Goethe as IaDoP.
Do you really need me to list that? It's already in the rules. It's not
like any officer is going to look
2009/5/5 Taral tar...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sent from a device with power 1
CoE: nope
Denied.
1. I'm not sure it's a valid CoE.
2. You can't deny a CoE
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
A contract's contestmaster CAN be flipped by any player without 3
objections if it is null, or as specified by the contract if it is
non-null.
I don't like this one so much. WO3O should always be
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
I submit the following proposal, named Fixing contestmaster
flipping, with AI=1, II=1
((
Amend the sentence in rule 2136 now reading:
(
A contract's contestmaster CAN be flipped by any player without 3
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/5 Rodlen rodlenj...@gmail.com:
I somehow end up with this one. Heh.
Well, this is going to be tough.
How does kicking Comex out of the PNP for a few months sound to you all?
--
--Rodlen
2009/5/5 Rodlen rodlenj...@gmail.com:
Hmm...actually, because Comex was judged as not guilty, we probably
shouldn't punish him...but the PNP probably deserves something for
reputation damage...
People disliked the PNP as promotor anyway; this was just the last
straw. I'd just enter the empty
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 15:27 -0700, Rodlen wrote:
Hmm...actually, because Comex was judged as not guilty, we probably
shouldn't punish him...but the PNP probably deserves something for
reputation damage...
Suggestions?
comex is currently not a PerlNomicite, and has stated e doesn't plan to
2009/5/5 Rodlen rodlenj...@gmail.com:
I join this nice little contract.
--
--Rodlen
nttpf
On 2009-05-06, Rodlen rodlenj...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote:
I cease to agree to that.
I re-agree to that, but with All parties to this contest consent to be
its contestmaster appended.
I agree to this.
I agree to this as well. And
Making it so that only one new person a day can register might slow
down invasions. Perhaps making it so that only 2 people can register
in any given block of two consecutive days might also help in the case
that two people happen to try to register in one day.
Classification scheme for invasion
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
I initiate an Agoran decision to choose the holder of the Anarchist
office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector
is the IADoP, and the candidates are Tiger, Quazie, and
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com
mailto:ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
I initiate an Agoran decision to choose the holder of the Anarchist
office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote
Dvorak Herring wrote:
6271 Fixing contestmaster flipping O 1.0 1 Tiger
FOR
6272 Revert contest bug O 1.0 1 coppro
FOR
Ineffective, your caste was recently decreased to Savage.
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