DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7337–7339

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 00:45 +, Elliott Hird wrote:
 I register. I become active.
 
 On 28 January 2013 17:53, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote:
  IDAI   CHAMBER   AUTHOR   TITLE
  7337  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Give those back
 PRESENT
  7338  3.0  Ordinary  ais523   cleanup
 AGAINST
  7339  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Lesser cleanup
 AGAINST

These votes don't count because you weren't a player at the start of the
voting period.

Also, what don't you like about my proposal? Agora's ruleset has been
too large for ages.

(I'm going to look through the rules at some point for other similar
rules that could be removed without hurting anything, and aren't
trophies.)

-- 
ais523



DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:28 -0800, Wes Contreras wrote:
 I hereby become a Player. Again.
 
 I also contest the accuracy of the Herald's report issued on Jan 22,
 2013, where a list of Fugitives is provided as the last section of
 the report. These persons are not, in fact, Fugitives, as that term is
 defined in Rule 1504 as a decidedly bad thing, and one which has never
 applied to me. Assuming said rule still exists, of course, given the
 lack of a recent Rulekeepor's report...

There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset
are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time
limit.

(There should be an SLR this week.)

Incidentally, the unofficial Fugitives list is for people who
deregistered while they had punishment assets (Blots, Rests); the game
tracks that in times where punishment assets exist, but G. tracks that
even when the game doesn't. It needs a different name, though.

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread woggle
On 1/29/13 2:45 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:28 -0800, Wes Contreras wrote:
 I hereby become a Player. Again.

 I also contest the accuracy of the Herald's report issued on Jan 22,
 2013, where a list of Fugitives is provided as the last section of
 the report. These persons are not, in fact, Fugitives, as that term is
 defined in Rule 1504 as a decidedly bad thing, and one which has never
 applied to me. Assuming said rule still exists, of course, given the
 lack of a recent Rulekeepor's report...
 
 There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset
 are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time
 limit.

Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see
https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ .

- woggle


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:48 -0800, woggle wrote:
 Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see
 https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ .

Neat! We should update http://agoranomic.org with links to more current
information, really. (It was futureproofed in the way it was written,
but it'd still be more useful with more current links.)

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:

 There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset
 are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time
 limit.

I wasn't able to locate either FLR or SLR in the agora-official public
archives more recent than 8/26/2012.

http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/maillist.html

Logging into the Mailman archives, though, I see they were just posted
yesterday. How odd. Whoever administers the public archive might want
to look at that technical issue.

 Incidentally, the unofficial Fugitives list is for people who
 deregistered while they had punishment assets (Blots, Rests); the game
 tracks that in times where punishment assets exist, but G. tracks that
 even when the game doesn't. It needs a different name, though.

I'm pretty sure that I had no Blots when I deregistered, though I also
notice that my name has two deregistrations fairly close together
showing in the Registrar's report under different email addresses
(antitribu.com, which is accurate; and magika.com a couple months
later, which is superfluous). I wonder if I accumulated Blots after I
deregistered because someone didn't realize I had two email
addresses... Not that it matters, given that they're long gone now,
but it's a curious bit of history.


--Wes


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
 Incidentally, the unofficial Fugitives list is for people who
 deregistered while they had punishment assets (Blots, Rests); the game
 tracks that in times where punishment assets exist, but G. tracks that
 even when the game doesn't. It needs a different name, though.

Honestly, going by common definitions, someone kicked out via Exile 
should be called an Exile, and those who flee before fully facing 
justice should be Fugitives.

Perhaps it can be generalized by patent title:
Fugitive, to be awarded by a judge who finds that an ex-player
fled the game to avoid a reasonably expected Rules-mandated
punishment, or while still undergoing punishment.  A player can
remove the title from emself after 90 days, with 2 Support [i.e.
after a bit of time, you can ask for forgiveness].  Being a
Fugitive is a Losing Condition.

I mainly keep it up because it is, like patent titles, an interesting
historical record.

-G.





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread omd
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see
 https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ .

I've updated my online version to include this link.  Maybe some day I
will revamp my web interface...