DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7337–7339
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 00:45 +, Elliott Hird wrote: I register. I become active. On 28 January 2013 17:53, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: IDAI CHAMBER AUTHOR TITLE 7337 1.0 Ordinary Machiavelli Give those back PRESENT 7338 3.0 Ordinary ais523 cleanup AGAINST 7339 3.0 Ordinary Machiavelli Lesser cleanup AGAINST These votes don't count because you weren't a player at the start of the voting period. Also, what don't you like about my proposal? Agora's ruleset has been too large for ages. (I'm going to look through the rules at some point for other similar rules that could be removed without hurting anything, and aren't trophies.) -- ais523
DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:28 -0800, Wes Contreras wrote: I hereby become a Player. Again. I also contest the accuracy of the Herald's report issued on Jan 22, 2013, where a list of Fugitives is provided as the last section of the report. These persons are not, in fact, Fugitives, as that term is defined in Rule 1504 as a decidedly bad thing, and one which has never applied to me. Assuming said rule still exists, of course, given the lack of a recent Rulekeepor's report... There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time limit. (There should be an SLR this week.) Incidentally, the unofficial Fugitives list is for people who deregistered while they had punishment assets (Blots, Rests); the game tracks that in times where punishment assets exist, but G. tracks that even when the game doesn't. It needs a different name, though. -- ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes
On 1/29/13 2:45 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:28 -0800, Wes Contreras wrote: I hereby become a Player. Again. I also contest the accuracy of the Herald's report issued on Jan 22, 2013, where a list of Fugitives is provided as the last section of the report. These persons are not, in fact, Fugitives, as that term is defined in Rule 1504 as a decidedly bad thing, and one which has never applied to me. Assuming said rule still exists, of course, given the lack of a recent Rulekeepor's report... There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time limit. Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ . - woggle
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:48 -0800, woggle wrote: Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ . Neat! We should update http://agoranomic.org with links to more current information, really. (It was futureproofed in the way it was written, but it'd still be more useful with more current links.) -- ais523
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time limit. I wasn't able to locate either FLR or SLR in the agora-official public archives more recent than 8/26/2012. http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/maillist.html Logging into the Mailman archives, though, I see they were just posted yesterday. How odd. Whoever administers the public archive might want to look at that technical issue. Incidentally, the unofficial Fugitives list is for people who deregistered while they had punishment assets (Blots, Rests); the game tracks that in times where punishment assets exist, but G. tracks that even when the game doesn't. It needs a different name, though. I'm pretty sure that I had no Blots when I deregistered, though I also notice that my name has two deregistrations fairly close together showing in the Registrar's report under different email addresses (antitribu.com, which is accurate; and magika.com a couple months later, which is superfluous). I wonder if I accumulated Blots after I deregistered because someone didn't realize I had two email addresses... Not that it matters, given that they're long gone now, but it's a curious bit of history. --Wes
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Alex Smith wrote: Incidentally, the unofficial Fugitives list is for people who deregistered while they had punishment assets (Blots, Rests); the game tracks that in times where punishment assets exist, but G. tracks that even when the game doesn't. It needs a different name, though. Honestly, going by common definitions, someone kicked out via Exile should be called an Exile, and those who flee before fully facing justice should be Fugitives. Perhaps it can be generalized by patent title: Fugitive, to be awarded by a judge who finds that an ex-player fled the game to avoid a reasonably expected Rules-mandated punishment, or while still undergoing punishment. A player can remove the title from emself after 90 days, with 2 Support [i.e. after a bit of time, you can ask for forgiveness]. Being a Fugitive is a Losing Condition. I mainly keep it up because it is, like patent titles, an interesting historical record. -G.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ . I've updated my online version to include this link. Maybe some day I will revamp my web interface...