Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I propose that the use of Spivak pronouns, and the use of English, are cultural norms entrenched so deeply that, in a conflict between the rules of Agora and these norms, players will defer to those norms. That suggests that _changing_ those norms -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-06-30 Thread Josh T
I just wanted to mention that I have an alternate stamp proposal which I haven't quite had the time to flesh out, but it should be reasonably easy to change to if I write things carefully. 天火狐 On 30 June 2017 at 09:45, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com>

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, CuddleBeam wrote: > > > Makes for an interesting example to compare Agora to. I'll see if I can > > dredge the webmail archives to see how Agoran use of Spivak has arisen and > > evolved. Culture is interesting. > > Spivak use

DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday celebration thread

2017-06-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > Greetings, > Ørjan, who was strongly considering using some other language before seeing > G.'s message. Oh dear, Apologies Ørjan, I wasn't trying to rid us of free expression in multiple languages, that would not be good at all. I mainly want to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Language Trophies

2017-06-30 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > If you have a non-Spivak, gender-neutral, identity-neutral form of pronouns, > I would be happy to take you up on learning it. Inclusivity is making > everyone feel included and

Re: DIS: testing mailman 3

2017-06-30 Thread omd
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Big question that determines my opinion on all of this: would our > current style of web interface still be available? My mailer doesn't > like to give me plain text input, so when I need to see it I use

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Birthday celebration thread

2017-06-30 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thursday, June 29, 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 13:43 -0700, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > Happy 24th birthday to Agora! > > I award Yally a Magenta Ribbon. (That is your Agora nickname, right?) > > -- > ais523 > It is!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-06-30 Thread CuddleBeam
>If you increase AP to 5 per week, I will pend it. I agree with that that would be a good change, but given that there would be rewards for making/pending/etc adopted proposals, I'd prefer to keep this good idea for later to reap shinies with it. Seems like a reasonable strategy. Leave bad

DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-06-30 Thread CuddleBeam
>I'd really appreciate having this pended before the next proposal pool >(I don't have any shinies). Pending price was 6 shinies, yeah?.Or something. I pay the amount necessary to get this pended. (I should have 14 shinies). Give me the money back or something lol if the proposal fails lol,

DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
If you increase AP to 5 per week, I will pend it. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > > Oops, I forgot to change everyone's balance. > > Also if there's no substantial problems noticed,

DIS: Win Auctions

2017-06-30 Thread CuddleBeam
I had in mind a scam for the upcoming Estate Auction. I bid some sufficiently large and intimidating amount of shinies (even if I don't have them, the point is to just win the auction because people are hopefully not aware of this scam. And yes, I'm telling the scam out loud here now lol). Then,

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 10:12 +0100, V.J Rada wrote: > [...] the game ends, with >   no provision for starting another game. > > Um...glad this no longer exists lmao Nomic was originally intended as a game that works like a game, which would be played for a bit and then complete.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday celebration thread

2017-06-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 17:16 +1200, V.J Rada wrote: > I wish Agora a happy birthday. > I award myself a magenta ribbon. > > too late? It was in time. -- ais523

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread V.J Rada
If a player believes that the rules are such that further play is impossible, or that the legality of a move cannot be determined with finality, or that a move appears equally legal and illegal, then the player may invoke judgement on a statement to that effect. If the

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread V.J Rada
Not everything has to be a rule. Spivak can be encouraged but should not be mandated or prohibited. It's just language. There's also nothing banning me from saying plenty of words here, but that doesn't mean they're encouraged or allowed. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:31 AM, CuddleBeam

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread CuddleBeam
Issues about why Spivak is better or not aside, I got curious about why BlogNomic favors using layman language (it seems goes in hand with it being a much more casual nomic), versus Agora leaning towards Spivak, so I did a bit of digging. Apparently, there HAS been a time in Blognomic where

DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

2017-06-30 Thread Aris Merchant
Do you want this proposal in this week's report (due any day now), or would you like to save it for next week's? -Aris On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 6:39 PM Nic Evans wrote: > Features: > >- CFJs and Proposals can be made by spending shinies OR by using AP. >AP works like