DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] Experimental Bench procedure

random message of not-deadness. and holy wow have there been a lot of messages lol On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Experimental procedure for assigning CFJs. You can just tell me > what Court you want to be on. Favoring still works of course. > Comments welcome. > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Take-backsies

Welcome to pull me in. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017, 22:41 Kerim Aydin, wrote: > > > You were next in line anyway :). (Boy this batch has been > hard to assign but that's a topic for later.) > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > > > I'll take this, G., if you're looking for judges. > > > > On Thu

DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:20 PM, ATMunn . wrote: > > [Okay. I think I've got it as I want. I'm going to pend it now, and this time > for real.] > I retract the proposal "Cheer Up v6?" and create and pend the following > proposal in its place: With AP or with shinies? (Remember to send your repl

Re: DIS: Proto: Election Campaigns

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Proto-Proposal: Election Campaigns (AI=3) I like this a lot. You appear to have been careful to preserve the AI/Power system for these proposals, which should stop candidates from passing inordinately-weird proposals simply as part of fil

Re: DIS: Proto: Election Campaigns

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:30 VJ Rada > wrote: > I mean I like the interim thing because it fixes the ADoP's unlimited > power and gives other people to call elections when they're actually > needed. I would like th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Oh right

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: >> I cause myself to receive a Welcome Package. > > Folks, this is why donations were pointless - you can't bandaid a gaping > wound. We had a brief discussion about this in IRC earlier today,

Re: DIS: [Proto] Reposting

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:53 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > > I think I've mostly got the hang of this by now, but it still sounds like a > great idea to me, in case other new players join and are confused by it as > well. Looks like you have, which I appreciate, but this is a recurrent problem for new

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 6:05 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I do include a list of people deregistered by Writ of FAGE in the Monthly > report because it does not say Registrar's report_s_, I interpreted this to > fulfill the requirement. I wondered about that. That’s one of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:45 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > > I did end up changing the "may" to "MAY.” MAY means “you won’t get a card for doing this.” You wanted CAN by announcement (“attempts to do this this way will work”). This is a recurrent bug. I can think of at least three players, including m

Re: DIS: PROTO: Saving moiney with nested proposals

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 4:55 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Author: VJ > Title: A million proposals for the price of one. > AI: 3 probably. > Text: > Create and pend the following proposal > {{Author: VJ Rada > Title: Repeal All Cards > AI: 3 > Text: Repeal all rules listed at the time of the proposal "a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Take-backsies

You were next in line anyway :). (Boy this batch has been hard to assign but that's a topic for later.) On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > I'll take this, G., if you're looking for judges. > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > >> On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, g

DIS: Re: BUS: Take-backsies

I'll take this, G., if you're looking for judges. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: >> >> I transfer one stamp to Agora. > > I cause Agora to transfer this stamp to me. > > I pay Agora 1 sh. to CFJ on the statement

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

On Sep 27, 2017, at 7:02 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > Sorry yeah, my plan was p much to get people to call CFJs on my > frivolous win attempt thinking they were safe and then tricking them > by revealing this was invalid and I still had certiorari. On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: bye

You will be missed. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:38 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > > I deregister > > > -grok signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Naw, it would be an attempt for a paradox win.  Which doesn't exist > > so I didn't do it.  :) > > I'm pretty sure that particular paradox attempt (Epimenedes versus > Truthiness) is one that's bee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Naw, it would be an attempt for a paradox win.  Which doesn't exist > so I didn't do it.  :) I'm pretty sure that particular paradox attempt (Epimenedes versus Truthiness) is one that's been thoroughly explored already. CFJ 1902 is probably t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

Naw, it would be an attempt for a paradox win. Which doesn't exist so I didn't do it. :) On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Okay. You're still going to have trouble with the intent to mislead > component though. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

Okay. You're still going to have trouble with the intent to mislead component though. -Aris On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > E actually posted that comment to BUS for whatever reason (maybe just replying > to emself and not the list-forwarded copy, I dunno). > > On Wed,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

E actually posted that comment to BUS for whatever reason (maybe just replying to emself and not the list-forwarded copy, I dunno). On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait, does the lying ban cover DIS? > > Gaelan > > > On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

It doesn't. -Aris On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait, does the lying ban cover DIS? > > Gaelan > >> On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >>> Ok, VJ this has been probably the worst, dumbest day for you in ag

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

Wait, does the lying ban cover DIS? Gaelan > On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> Ok, VJ this has been probably the worst, dumbest day for you in agora >> nomic. Every damn message has been wrong. > > (G. is tempted to finger-point

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 11:17 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > [I also resigned to remove myself from the temptation of scamming a > > Black Ribbon with the position - was considering it - so maybe it was > > future-controversial :P ] > > How were you planning

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 11:17 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [I also resigned to remove myself from the temptation of scamming a > Black Ribbon with the position - was considering it - so maybe it was > future-controversial :P ] How were you planning to do that? Just putting it on the report and hoping

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 12:20 Kerim Aydin wrote: > G. wins the Victory Election. > G. wins the game (of Agora). > > > For whatever reason, this seemed contentious, so I initiate an election for > Tailor. Happy to take it on. > > -Alexis T

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

I think bribe-conditionals (gFP and the like) go a long way towards making these things interesting. Gaelan > On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> CuddleBeam: >>> I dislike having wins being granted by election like this, becau

DIS: Re: BUS: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > Ok, VJ this has been probably the worst, dumbest day for you in agora > nomic. Every damn message has been wrong. (G. is tempted to finger-point you for lying because this message isn't wrong...)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

You're right. I'll change that. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > any value it is currently not. > < It is IMPOSSIBLE to change another player's Emotion. > < When doing this, e MUST provide a reason as to why e changed eir > Emotion as such. > > This could be read as mandating p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:52 VJ Rada wrote: > >Re: being wrong: that's just nomic! it happens to all of us! :) > > Part of it is me being super-tired today. Also part of it is the > volume. This month, our BUS and OFF volume is nearly identical to > previous months (since May) but our DIS volume

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7876-7898

On 09/27/17 12:45, Josh T wrote: > I'm not going to officially CoE on this, but I am listed not by 天火狐 Sorry. I do that in my records to avoid any potential unicode problems. Normally I manually edit it. > > 天火狐 > > On 26 September 2017 at 15:49, nichdel > wrote: > >

DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

wrote: > [Yay more spam! This time, fixed a typo and the weird text bug.] > Retract the proposal "Cheer Up vIDEK" and create the following proposal in > its place: > > Title: "Cheer Up v6?" > Author: ATMunn > AI: 1 > > Create a power-1 rule titled "Emotions" > { > Emotion is a player switch, t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Elections: Assessor and Tailor

>Re: being wrong: that's just nomic! it happens to all of us! :) Part of it is me being super-tired today. Also part of it is the volume. This month, our BUS and OFF volume is nearly identical to previous months (since May) but our DIS volume is over 5 times as many messages, the highest it's been

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7876-7898

I'm not going to officially CoE on this, but I am listed not by 天火狐 天火狐 On 26 September 2017 at 15:49, nichdel wrote: > Good luck Gaelan. > > I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7876-7898as below. > > > > [This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

Oh good lord who put me in charge of this stuff :(. It doesn't matter specifically who initiated though. Right? I've been wrong today already like... 20 times. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:22 VJ Rada wrote: >> >> You, currently. cannot. But I

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Tailor Election

True. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:36 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:25 VJ Rada wrote: >> >> If we reach quorum it will honestly be _miraculous_. >> >> I endorse Alexis. If she does not vote, I vote for Alexis. >> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:23 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> > Oh let's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:22 VJ Rada wrote: > You, currently. cannot. But I can and now will. > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 12:20 Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > >> G. wins the Victory Election. > >> G. wins the game (of Agora). > > > > > > For wha

Re: DIS: Proto: Election Campaigns

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:30 VJ Rada wrote: > I mean I like the interim thing because it fixes the ADoP's unlimited > power and gives other people to call elections when they're actually > needed. I would like the Campaign Proposals if it was just > for...say... the Prime Minister. But I don't li

Re: DIS: Proto: Election Campaigns

I mean I like the interim thing because it fixes the ADoP's unlimited power and gives other people to call elections when they're actually needed. I would like the Campaign Proposals if it was just for...say... the Prime Minister. But I don't like going through all that for uncontested 2-0 Superint

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 10:13 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I’m curious about the RWO “no rule changes thing.” It says something > along the lines of “RWO can’t cause a rule change.” That obviously > bans direct rule changes, but what about RWO’ing into existence a > proposal with FOR votes from ever

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

You, currently. cannot. But I can and now will. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 12:20 Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> G. wins the Victory Election. >> G. wins the game (of Agora). > > > For whatever reason, this seemed contentious, so I initiate an election

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 at 13:20 VJ Rada wrote: > " what about RWO’ing into existence a proposal with FOR votes from > everybody set to resolve tomorrow?" > > This works. AIS did it to fix the "without objection" thing. > > "Even scarier question: what happens to the gamestate if we discover > that r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

" what about RWO’ing into existence a proposal with FOR votes from everybody set to resolve tomorrow?" This works. AIS did it to fix the "without objection" thing. "Even scarier question: what happens to the gamestate if we discover that ratification itself has no effect?" We change the rules so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

I’m curious about the RWO “no rule changes thing.” It says something along the lines of “RWO can’t cause a rule change.” That obviously bans direct rule changes, but what about RWO’ing into existence a proposal with FOR votes from everybody set to resolve tomorrow? If that doesn’t work, what lev

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Slower Promotion

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 at 20:49 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I personally find it frustrating that we vote on things before the last > > setis resolved. This should be a relatively safe way to slow down, if we > >

DIS: Proto: Election Campaigns

Proto-Proposal: Election Campaigns (AI=3) {{{ Amend rule 1607 (Distribution) by replacing "In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir weekly duties, distribute all pending proposals." with "In a gi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > Talking of moots, have you ever resolved that moot on the CFJ I judged? Just as a followup, this was resolved on Sept 19 (both moot and re-judgement): https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2017-September/011814.html https

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

On 09/27/17 11:22, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> CuddleBeam: >>> I dislike having wins being granted by election like this, because it feels >>> too easy. I vote present. > So I agree with CuddleBeam's sentiment here - in this case the Victory > Election > wa

DIS: Re: BUS: Oh right

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I cause myself to receive a Welcome Package. Folks, this is why donations were pointless - you can't bandaid a gaping wound.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating election for the Assessor and Herald

"An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran decision by publishing a notice satisfying the following conditions: 2. The entity casting the ballot (the voter) was, at the initiation of the decision, a player." You're right that I tend to be hard on myself though. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Ale

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating election for the Assessor and Herald

Mistakes happen, don't need to be so hard on yourself... You can just unilaterally initiate another election for Tailor anyway, can't you? That said, it appears that for elections, unlike proposals, the set of eligible voters is not locked in at initiation, so I believe my votes do count. On Wed,

Re: DIS: proto: more trust

On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 08:47 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > (Historically, it's normally been possible in nomics to find another > > player who's willing to give you a win in return for a bribe. In some > > cases, especially in BlogNomic, you can often find a

Re: DIS: proto: more trust

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > (Historically, it's normally been possible in nomics to find another > player who's willing to give you a win in return for a bribe. In some > cases, especially in BlogNomic, you can often find a player who's > willing to give you a win even without a bri

Re: DIS: proto: more trust

On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 10:14 -0500, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > { > Excessive Trust > AI = 1 > Authors: grok > > Amend Rule 2452 "Trust Tokens" to include the following text immediately > after the final paragraph: > > "A person can win the game by announcement if e has been issued fifty Trust > T

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Re my win (no, I'm not assigning it to myself)

On Sep 27, 2017 9:18 AM, "VJ Rada" wrote: Third: Is Aris's attempt to object sufficient? E simply stated "I object to all the intents in the below message" or similar. Under our precedents, which ban somebody from taking an unreasonable number of actions in shorthand where copying and pasting wou

Re: DIS: proto: more trust

Sure would. Given the timeframe of pending / promoting / assessing, I'm assuming that would quickly not be the case if this was pended. -grok On Sep 27, 2017 10:19 AM, "VJ Rada" wrote: There's an agency of Quazie's that allows people to get trust tokens from em if they give them to em. It woul

Re: DIS: proto: more trust

There's an agency of Quazie's that allows people to get trust tokens from em if they give them to em. It would be trivial to get 50 from em and win the game on the spot. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:14 AM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > { > Excessive Trust > AI = 1 > Authors: grok > > Amend Rule 2452 "

DIS: proto: more trust

{ Excessive Trust AI = 1 Authors: grok Amend Rule 2452 "Trust Tokens" to include the following text immediately after the final paragraph: "A person can win the game by announcement if e has been issued fifty Trust Tokens by another individual player; if no person has won via this mechanism in th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

Oh, you're quite right, yes. You can change votes on old proposals, which then changes the ruleset, but you can't affect those proposals themselves if that causes a change. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-28 at 00:51 +1000, VJ Rada wrote: >> No, yeah, the pro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

I never used a power of the office. If I actually used certiorari to judge my own CFJ, that would be a different story. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I'm sure the referee realizes that the timely fashion response will stretch > into > next week's supply of cards. (A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

CFJ 3509 is restrictive. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:00 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I never used a power of the office. If I actually used certiorari to > judge my own CFJ, that would be a different story. > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> I'm sure the referee realizes tha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

I'm sure the referee realizes that the timely fashion response will stretch into next week's supply of cards. (And if ever there was a case for Pink Slip, it's this one). On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > " A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A statment is a > lie >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

On Thu, 2017-09-28 at 00:51 +1000, VJ Rada wrote: > No, yeah, the proposal was rejected anyway. As I recall it repealed > the already-repealed dictatorship and existed only for the purpose of > a CFJ. I'm just doing this because of the uncontroversial nature of > GOD, the amount of reports it exist

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

No, yeah, the proposal was rejected anyway. As I recall it repealed the already-repealed dictatorship and existed only for the purpose of a CFJ. I'm just doing this because of the uncontroversial nature of GOD, the amount of reports it existed in, and the fact that SOME game actions rested on it.

DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 18:18 +1000, VJ Rada wrote: > An agency has been listed for a long time called "G is Overlord of > Dunce". Is is a verb, so that agency is clearly not an agency. The > problem? That agency was used months ago (like...May) to create > another agency, which was used to pend a pr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

Google does kind of fall flat on its face when it comes to tricky honorific expressions, especially since the register of addressing royalty is regulated to historical fiction authors who decide to be sticklers on the subject. 天火狐 On 27 September 2017 at 10:38, VJ Rada wrote: > "I am fortunate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

"I am fortunate that the princess will be made available to Agora." Google did that pretty well, actually. Although I doubt you meant "made available". -- >From V.J. Rada

DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

姫様がアゴラに有らせられるのは幸いになります。 天火狐 On 26 September 2017 at 22:17, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I register. > > I Point a Finger at Publius Scribonius Scholasticus alleging that, as > Registrar, e has committed the Class-2 Crime of Tardiness by not reporting > last week on the players deregistered by Writ of F

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Re my win (no, I'm not assigning it to myself)

Just for the record, my own prejudice is that I saw sufficient objections and I think the burden is on the scammer before I as herald would Award a win, but I've always been bothered by our approach to scams that work by spamming actions because it's such a squishy standard - might be persuadable

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

" A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A statment is a lie if its publisher either knew or believed it to be not to be true at the time e published it (or, in the case of an action, not to be effective), and it was made with the intent to mislead. Merely quoting a statem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

I ... thought I did? On mobile now, but planning to catch up with all the tasks later today and will check. There are "bad" judgements that were never appealed or were forced through similarly, and the result was an immediate follow up CFJ saying the earlier one was wrong and overriding the pre

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

Or rather, failed to judge On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:14 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > My plan would be to use some combination of my two PM votes, grok's > habit of voting with gFP, Celestial Fire-Fox's agency and ridiculously > high quorums to try and strongarm it, even though I'm sure others > would si

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

My plan would be to use some combination of my two PM votes, grok's habit of voting with gFP, Celestial Fire-Fox's agency and ridiculously high quorums to try and strongarm it, even though I'm sure others would simply ignore me. Talking of moots, have you ever resolved that moot on the CFJ I judge

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

I did wonder if it was something like that :p (If one does turn up truly unjudged I would try to get it resolved). Also: even if you judge on your win, you're just fast-tracking it for moot, there's really no endgame where a wrong CFJ stands and becomes precedent AFAICT. In the past when ther

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

Sorry yeah, my plan was p much to get people to call CFJs on my frivolous win attempt thinking they were safe and then tricking them by revealing this was invalid and I still had certiorari. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Follow up, 3110 was judged by Murphy 24 Oct 201

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

Follow up, 3110 was judged by Murphy 24 Oct 2011. On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Please please do not do this without asking. There are a ream of > court cases that have been judged but were not put in the official > Court online records. I have been catching up about 10 a month on

Re: DIS: [Proto] Reposting

I think I've mostly got the hang of this by now, but it still sounds like a great idea to me, in case other new players join and are confused by it as well. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This could be done as

DIS: Re: BUS: Frivolous but harmless scam attempt of the week

As herald, I believe this has failed and these have been objected to, and my reports will reflect this. I suggest all players leave VJ Rada to call any CFJ otherwise, as the burden of proof is on the scammer. On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I resolve the fifteenth below intent. > > De

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

I did end up changing the "may" to "MAY." I would add the "by announcement," however I'm not sure I can at this point. Can you make changes to a pended proposal? If you do, do you get back the AP/shinies you used to pend it? On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:54 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scri

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Using Certiorari for Good! Also, judgement of CFJ 3110!

Please please do not do this without asking. There are a ream of court cases that have been judged but were not put in the official Court online records. I have been catching up about 10 a month on the back end from my email archive and updated about 50 so far. In doing so, of those 50 I only

DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

Does your report not self-ratify? Gaelan > On Sep 27, 2017, at 1:18 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > An agency has been listed for a long time called "G is Overlord of > Dunce". Is is a verb, so that agency is clearly not an agency. The > problem? That agency was used months ago (like...May) to create >

Re: DIS: PROTO: Saving moiney with nested proposals

That would work for the first. For the Repeal All Cards, I am working on a more comprehensive repeal. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 27, 2017, at 4:55 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Author: VJ > Title: A million proposals for the price of one. > AI:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

I know and I have added the list to the Weekly Report. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 27, 2017, at 6:13 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > It doesn't. > > Also, I use GII to give 20 shinies to Trigon and Alexis. > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Publ

DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

I do include a list of people deregistered by Writ of FAGE in the Monthly report because it does not say Registrar's report_s_, I interpreted this to fulfill the requirement. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 26, 2017, at 11:28 PM, Owen Jacobson

Re: DIS: [Proto] Reposting

This could be done as an opt-in thing with Agencies. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 26, 2017, at 10:15 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > In light of our newer players’ issues with the groups, and my own, it might > be nice to allow players to repo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

See my comment below. Also, I greatly appreciate the current usage of Spivak pronouns/ Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:43 PM, ATMunn . wrote: > > I retract the proposal "Cheer Up" and create the following proposal in its > plac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My first proposal!

We could also overtime add nice emotions. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:34 PM, ATMunn . wrote: >> >> I create the following proposal: > > Some initial feedback: this

DIS: PROTO: Saving moiney with nested proposals

Author: VJ Title: A million proposals for the price of one. AI: 3 probably. Text: Create and pend the following proposal {{Author: VJ Rada Title: Repeal All Cards AI: 3 Text: Repeal all rules listed at the time of the proposal "a million proposals for the price of one" under the rule section "punis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

Oh good call, sorry. That's clever of you, actually. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > This is the text of my Agency GII: “Perform any actions Gaelan has listed as > Performable By Agency, subject to any restrictions e has specified in that > announcement, if Gaelan has no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

This is the text of my Agency GII: “Perform any actions Gaelan has listed as Performable By Agency, subject to any restrictions e has specified in that announcement, if Gaelan has not specified more than 24 hours prior that the action is no longer Performable By Agency.” I’m not actually changin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

No? The text is this: "An Agency's Director may amend its properties or revoke it with 24 hours Notice.". 24 hours notice has the same rules as without objection or with support: you have to give 24 hours notice and then resolve the intent. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vital History Gone Missing!

GII “agencies” get created instantly. They do take 24 hours to remove, but that is specified as something along the lines of “not retracted more than 24 hours prior,” which means that I need no explicit resolution of the action. Gaelan > On Sep 26, 2017, at 8:05 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Althoug

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Assessor election

Already initiated. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I support. I’d also be willing to take this one long term. > > Gaelan > >> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:20 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> I intend, with four support, to initiate an election for the office of >> Assessor. >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Assessor election

I support. I’d also be willing to take this one long term. Gaelan > On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:20 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I intend, with four support, to initiate an election for the office of > Assessor. > > Please don’t make me do it. I’ll take the job temporarily unless someone else > wan