Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3613 TRUE

2017-12-17 Thread VJ Rada
balloons don't need to be awarded and are automatically conferred. On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > H. Clork, I believe I am owed several weeks back-balloons. > > -Aris > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:44 PM Corona wrote: > >> On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> > I

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3613 TRUE

2017-12-17 Thread Aris Merchant
H. Clork, I believe I am owed several weeks back-balloons. -Aris On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:44 PM Corona wrote: > On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > > I sh-CFJ "Aris has advised every politician in the row reduced echelon." > > I judge CFJ 3613 as TRUE. The caller's arguments are sound,

Re: DIS: conditionality

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I wouldn't. The conditional here is that the action stops when the > > resulting Influence is higher than that of the next-highest player. > > That isn't related to how many NPR favors Corona has, which is the only > > cost for actually using the action

Re: DIS: conditionality

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-12-17 at 17:50 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > So you would allow Corona's recent action, quoted below? Because in > > terms of knowable facts it's no different than saying "all", is it? > > > > > For every Politician (In case I run out partwa

Re: DIS: conditionality

2017-12-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-12-17 at 17:50 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > So you would allow Corona's recent action, quoted below? Because in > terms of knowable facts it's no different than saying "all", is it? > > > For every Politician (In case I run out partway: This is done in > > descending order by rank and

Re: DIS: conditionality

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-12-17 at 17:35 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Anyway, I've been musing this on and off this week, and wondering where > > to draw the line defining "conditionally". In particular, I'm thinking > > about statements like "I transfer all my shini

Re: DIS: conditionality

2017-12-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-12-17 at 17:35 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Anyway, I've been musing this on and off this week, and wondering where > to draw the line defining "conditionally". In particular, I'm thinking > about statements like "I transfer all my shinies to Alexis." In > one sense, "all" is a well-s

DIS: conditionality

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
[Hey Corona, I was midway through writing the below when I noticed your earlier actions - so it was on my mind when you tried those, I didn't mean to single you out as the only one who does it!] Anyway, I've been musing this on and off this week, and wondering where to draw the line defining "co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I'm not dead!

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
It was actual gameplay. At the same time zombies were adopted, the standard for deregistering silent players switched from without objection to with 3 Agoran consent. There was a run on the bank just when zombie actions were nearing (due to stamps), and some players in poor auction position,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7994-7995

2017-12-17 Thread ATMunn
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2017-December/037600.html On 12/17/2017 6:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: What's wrong with it, exactly? It worked for several proposals AFAIK no one claimed it wasn't working... On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, ATMunn wrote: If you vote A

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm not dead!

2017-12-17 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Edward Murphy wrote: Having caught up on the Public Fora, I register. Hi! Just a month too late to fail because you were still registered... (Why _did_ all those people get deregistered just about when they could have been made zombies instead? Or is that broken too...)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3613 TRUE

2017-12-17 Thread Corona
I see. I will try to refrain from doing that in the future, then, and I will not object if the Clork omits the results of this action in eir report. On 12/17/17, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Corona wrote: >> For every Politician (In case I run out partway: This is done in >> desc

Re: DIS: Some routine fix protos

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
Hey, welcome back!! It turns out the black card rule doesn't exist btw, it was judged to violate R217 and thus was never enacted. On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Edward Murphy wrote: > Proto-Proposal: Pulling the Thread > (AI = 3) > > Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing the sentence starting "While a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7994-7995

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
What's wrong with it, exactly? It worked for several proposals AFAIK no one claimed it wasn't working... On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, ATMunn wrote: > If you vote AGAINST, it would be nice if you instead proposed a fix proposal. > The rule is still quite broken. > > On 12/17/2017 5:17 PM, Alexis Hunt w

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3613 TRUE

2017-12-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Corona wrote: > For every Politician (In case I run out partway: This is done in > descending order by rank and then alphabetical order by names) I am > not the Advisor of, I spend the lowest amount of NPR favors I can > spend to have more Influence with em than any other pla

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm not dead!

2017-12-17 Thread ATMunn
Welcome back! On 12/17/2017 5:18 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: Having caught up on the Public Fora, I register.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7994-7995

2017-12-17 Thread ATMunn
s/instead/also On 12/17/2017 6:39 PM, ATMunn wrote: If you vote AGAINST, it would be nice if you instead proposed a fix proposal. The rule is still quite broken. On 12/17/2017 5:17 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 at 17:10 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7994-7995

2017-12-17 Thread ATMunn
If you vote AGAINST, it would be nice if you instead proposed a fix proposal. The rule is still quite broken. On 12/17/2017 5:17 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 at 17:10 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: ID Author(s)AI Title Pend

DIS: Proto: Sound and Fury

2017-12-17 Thread Edward Murphy
Proto-Proposal: Sound and Fury (AI = 2) Amend Rule 2426 (Cards) by replacing the paragraph starting "Cards CANNOT be issued except" with: Cards CANNOT be issued except by players by announcement. Any attempt to issue a Card is INEFFECTIVE if any of the following is true:

DIS: Some routine fix protos

2017-12-17 Thread Edward Murphy
Proto-Proposal: Pulling the Thread (AI = 3) Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing the sentence starting "While a person qualifies for a type of Ribbon," with: While a person qualifies for a type of Ribbon, any player CAN award em that type of Ribbon by announcement, and SHOULD clear

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2017-12-17 Thread ATMunn
Looks fine to me. On 12/17/2017 2:53 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: A draft Promotor's report follows. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Asses