Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Successful Party

2018-02-06 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 01:15 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: Proposal: End of an Era (AI=3) {{{ THE YEAR OF CELEBRATION BEING COMPLETE, RULE 2486 IS HEREBY REPEALED. }}} Wait, if this proposal is in allcaps, does that mean we have to vote on it in secret?

DIS: Re: BUS: A Successful Party

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 01:15 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Proposal: End of an Era (AI=3) > {{{ > THE YEAR OF CELEBRATION BEING COMPLETE, RULE 2486 IS HEREBY REPEALED. > }}} Wait, if this proposal is in allcaps, does that mean we have to vote on it in secret? (That mechanic was from before I

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Ah, I see. I can see why it would be so popular, it seems so fun! (And > maybe I'll get fed up of it too eventually lol, like how eating chocolate > everyday eventually gets at you.) > > This is a weird case of gerontocracy lol. Yeah, I don't begrudge

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
Yeah, I can get that. Luckily it's really isolated stuff so it's pretty much just the paradoxer/CFJ Judge playing with each other for these shenanigans. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Madeline wrote: > It's not fun at all. :( > > > > On 2018-02-07 11:17, Cuddle Beam wrote:

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
It's not fun at all. :( On 2018-02-07 11:17, Cuddle Beam wrote: Ah, I see. I can see why it would be so popular, it seems so fun! (And maybe I'll get fed up of it too eventually lol, like how eating chocolate everyday eventually gets at you.) This is a weird case of gerontocracy lol. On Wed,

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
Ah, I see. I can see why it would be so popular, it seems so fun! (And maybe I'll get fed up of it too eventually lol, like how eating chocolate everyday eventually gets at you.) This is a weird case of gerontocracy lol. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:54 AM, Alex Smith

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-02-06 Thread Alexis Hunt
No, omd is still Distributor. E flipped the HTML-stripping settings in response to the proposal to do so last year. On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 18:54 ATMunn wrote: > Same thing happens here. > > On 2/6/2018 5:02 PM, Telnaior wrote: > > Somehow this managed to come through in

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 00:44 +0100, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I've never done or seen deliberate Paradox stuff in nomic so this is all > pretty exciting for me. > > I'm surprised that ad hoc contracts/pledges haven't been used before to > summon Paradox wins! I'm pretty proud! (Or just not sufficiently

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-02-06 Thread ATMunn
Same thing happens here. On 2/6/2018 5:02 PM, Telnaior wrote: Somehow this managed to come through in variable-width font on my client (but now it's showing as fixed-width when I go to reply). Huh? Also, I flip omd's Master switch to Agora. On 2018-02-07 08:06, Kerim Aydin wrote: I

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes (fwd)

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
Oh, thanks, sorry, it's been a while. Don't think that's the first time I've done it today either >_> On 2018-02-07 10:39, Kerim Aydin wrote: (assuming this was meant for Discussion and not me personally...) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 10:35:48 +1100 From:

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
I've never done or seen deliberate Paradox stuff in nomic so this is all pretty exciting for me. I'm surprised that ad hoc contracts/pledges haven't been used before to summon Paradox wins! I'm pretty proud! (Or just not sufficiently informed yet! lol) On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Kerim

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes (fwd)

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
(assuming this was meant for Discussion and not me personally...) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 10:35:48 +1100 From: Madeline To: Kerim Aydin Subject: Re: DIS: About Paradoxes If a value becomes indeterminate, that in

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Win by paradox?

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 10:14 +1100, Madeline wrote: > Gratuitous Argument: > Obviously, the veracity of the statement "This sentence is false" is > indeterminate, as Rule 2518 ("Determinacy") makes clear. As a > result, whether or not you owe shinies to Agora is indeterminate, > whether or not you

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Win by paradox?

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
Gratuitous Argument: Obviously, the veracity of the statement "This sentence is false" is indeterminate, as Rule 2518 ("Determinacy") makes clear. As a result, whether or not you owe shinies to Agora is indeterminate, whether or not you owe shinies to Cuddlebeam is indeterminate, and if you

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: > From the Ruleset: > > Rule 2518/0 (Power=3.0) > Determinacy > > If a value CANNOT be reasonably determined (without circularity or > paradox) from information reasonably available, or if it > alternates indefinitely between values, then

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
On 2018-02-07 10:04, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 09:59 +1100, Madeline wrote: From the Ruleset: Rule 2518/0 (Power=3.0) Determinacy If a value CANNOT be reasonably determined (without circularity or paradox) from information reasonably available, or if it

Re: DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 09:59 +1100, Madeline wrote: > From the Ruleset: > > Rule 2518/0 (Power=3.0) > Determinacy > >If a value CANNOT be reasonably determined (without circularity or >paradox) from information reasonably available, or if it >alternates indefinitely

DIS: About Paradoxes

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
From the Ruleset: Rule 2518/0 (Power=3.0) Determinacy If a value CANNOT be reasonably determined (without circularity or paradox) from information reasonably available, or if it alternates indefinitely between values, then the value is considered to be indeterminate,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
Well, the honorary office is being admin on the main mailing lists. It's not even really an "office" or in the rules anywhere. E's been willing to keep doing that and technical continuity tends to beat out rules/offices (e.g. with domains, etc.) But now that you mention it, maybe I'm wrong -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
Is it? I didn't check for that... Why is an inactive the holder of an important honourary office, then? On 2018-02-07 09:16, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Telnaior wrote: Somehow this managed to come through in variable-width font on my client (but now it's showing as fixed-width

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Telnaior wrote: > Somehow this managed to come through in variable-width font on my client (but > now it's showing as fixed-width when I go to reply). Huh? > Also, I flip omd's Master switch to Agora. I copy-pasted the structure from PSS's last report - it had some weird

DIS: Holidays!

2018-02-06 Thread Madeline
Happy Read the Ruleset Week, everyone :)

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Destruction

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, VJ Rada wrote: > I convert all of my bills into shinies with the Credit Union Ambiguous transaction attempt, and the Credit Union has no shinies.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Arbitor] CFJ 3620 and 3621 assigned to Alexis

2018-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > (Arbitor is currently vacant.) > I deputize as Arbitor to perform the following: This fails - Murphy is Arbitor.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Arbitor] CFJ 3620 and 3621 assigned to Alexis

2018-02-06 Thread Alexis Hunt
Isn't Murphy Arbitor? On Tue, Feb 6, 2018, 04:36 Cuddle Beam, wrote: > (Arbitor is currently vacant.) > I deputize as Arbitor to perform the following: > > --*--- > > The CFJ summoned below by Nichdel is CFJ 3620 and the one summoned by > Cuddlebeam is CFJ 3621. >

Re: DIS: Win by paradox?

2018-02-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
I'm guessing another way this could work is via Pledges which have even less restrictions. Just custom-write whatever you need to engineer a paradox. The main concern would be dodging "irrelevant", though. But it could be doable. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:02 AM, Cuddle Beam