DIS: Re: BUS: Right Action

2019-06-06 Thread Jason Cobb
Thank you, but why? On 6/6/19 11:13 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: I pay 12 coins to Jason Cobb. I pay 4 coins to V.J Rada. I pay 4 coins to Walker. -o

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Dollar Auction

2019-06-06 Thread omd
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:24 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > I bid TWO UNITED STATES DOLLARS. (This fails because it does not "specify[] the amount of the Auction's currency to bid" [R2550], since the currency is coins.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread omd
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:28 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Ah, here's the protection I was looking for: > > R2350 (power=3): > Once a proposal > is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned > attributes can be changed. Hmm... it may still be possible to destroy the

Re: DIS: DMARC bounces (attn Murphy)

2019-06-06 Thread James Cook
On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 02:08, omd wrote: > ...Okay, I've gone ahead and set dmarc_moderation_action to "Munge > From" on all three lists. Changing the From address is annoying > (sorry Murphy), but it only applies to messages from domains with > p=reject DMARC entries, and the alternative is for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer goes to uni, Attn. Herald

2019-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
I think at the time I ended up pointing out that you SHOULD Agora-publish the full text ("publication of an original thesis") rather than a link? It also looks like there was some discussion about whether publishing something non-original would count. In the end, I think no-one started the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8178-8179

2019-06-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jun 6, 2019, at 1:00 PM, D. Margaux wrote: > I may have miscounted; it does not appear to affect the result though. > Apologies Yeah, I didn’t make a CoE because I can’t see how it matters. I mostly wanted to make sure I hadn’t mis-cast my ballot! Thanks for looking. -o signature.asc

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Dollar Auction

2019-06-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
I Point my Toe at thy dastardly self Trigon: the currency thou shall employ is the coin, not the dollar. On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:24, Reuben Staley wrote: > I bid TWO UNITED STATES DOLLARS. > > On 6/5/19 6:57 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Oh boy, a WHOLE dollar, and even a US one, how did you get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer goes to uni, Attn. Herald

2019-06-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
necrobump review ples waifus and husbandos https://i.imgur.com/TkLQDap.png On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:08 AM Cuddle Beam wrote: > I could submit the essays here first if that is preferred but it would > really just feel like I’m changing the order of what I’d like to do anyways > > - Submit to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Thesis submission: A dream within a dream within a dream

2019-06-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
I’ve submitted like four thesis by now but have never gotten a degree yet lmao. On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 19:42, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I didn't want this to pass by without commenting - I think a > well-written judgement that covers interesting philosophical aspects > is a fine candidate for an

Re: DIS: How are Rule ID Numbers assigned?

2019-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 6:08 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > Good question. Rule 2141 says that the Rulekeepor can assign a number, and > doesn’t say in what way e must do so, so e could theoretically assign any > number. There is possibly a limitation against re-assigning ID numbers based on an old

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
Ah, here's the protection I was looking for: R2350 (power=3): Once a proposal is created, neither its text nor any of the aforementioned attributes can be changed. On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:48 AM Aris Merchant wrote: > > I’m not entirely sure it works out that way. However, in any

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Temporary Deputy-ADoP] Initiation of Election for Prime Minister

2019-06-06 Thread David Seeber
I vote for Aris, then G. From: agora-business on behalf of Owen Jacobson Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 2:51:28 AM To: Agora Nomic - Business Subject: BUS: Re: OFF: [Temporary Deputy-ADoP] Initiation of Election for Prime Minister On Jun 2, 2019, at 8:29 AM, D

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8178-8179

2019-06-06 Thread D. Margaux
I may have miscounted; it does not appear to affect the result though. Apologies > On Jun 5, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > >> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:38 PM, D. Margaux wrote: >> >> Proposal 8179 >> === >> AGAINST: Aris, Falsifian, omd, Rance, V.J. Rada*, twg+ >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
I don't think you can amend a proposal directly. I think the only thing you can do is use the R106 "except by other rules" which can only prohibit existing proposal clauses from taking affect, not add clauses. The logic is: Right now, R2140 works for the most part. However R106 beats R2140

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread Jason Cobb
Ah, sorry then. Thanks. On 6/6/19 12:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Comptrollor only affects proposals when the proposal "takes effect" (last paragraph of R2597). The proposal "takes effect" within this sequence in R106, so it has power at that point: the proposal in question is adopted,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant
I’m not entirely sure it works out that way. However, in any case, I think you just found a power escalation vulnerability. If one had a power-1 dictatorship, one could amend a power-3 proposal just before it was about to pass and then get a power three dictatorship. If you controlled the office

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
Comptrollor only affects proposals when the proposal "takes effect" (last paragraph of R2597). The proposal "takes effect" within this sequence in R106, so it has power at that point: the proposal in question is adopted, and unless other rules prevent it from taking effect, its power

DIS: Re: BUS: comptrollor nerf

2019-06-06 Thread Jason Cobb
Fogive me if I misunderstand, but isn't the power of a proposal 0 unless and until the Decision about it results in ADOPTED? Thus, during the voting period, the Comptrollor would still have higher power than the proposal, fulfilling the requirements of Rule 2140. On 6/6/19 12:15 PM, Kerim