DIS: Re: BUS: hi

2020-05-19 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
hi On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 1:27 PM nch via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:24:36 PM CDT grok \(caleb vines\) via agora- > business wrote: > > I register > > > > > > -grok > > I cause grok to receive one welcome package. > > -- > nch > > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387 CoE

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> I thought there was another error, but can't seem to find it. > > -Aris 8382 has the wrong title in the full text section. - Falsifian

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods

2020-05-19 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/19/20 10:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:32 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 5/19/20 10:27 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods

2020-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:32 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/19/20 10:27 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: > >> A contract-defined office behaves as closely as possible to a regular >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods

2020-05-19 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/19/20 10:27 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >> Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: >> A contract-defined office behaves as closely as possible to a regular >> office, >> except that: >> - its only salary is 5 banknotes once per payday

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods

2020-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:53 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 05:22, Aris Merchant via agora-business > wrote: > > I submit the following Dragon Corporation Amendment Proposals: > > > > --- > > Presidential Elections > > > > Replace the first paragraph of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3831 enters the mootiest moot ever

2020-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> On May 19, 2020, at 21:27, nch via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:07:27 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business wrote: >>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:03 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business >>> >>> wrote: >>> On 5/19/20 5:54 PM, Kerim Aydin

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3831 enters the mootiest moot ever

2020-05-19 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:07:27 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:03 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business > > wrote: > > On 5/19/20 5:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > > > I hereby initiate an Agoran Decision to determine

DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 05:22, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following Dragon Corporation Amendment Proposals: > > --- > Presidential Elections > > Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: > A contract-defined office behaves as closely as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Renaming Sillyness (At AI 3, of course)

2020-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/18/2020 2:05 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > I don't really like "Registror". Notory somehow looks nicer to me. > Also, according to Wiktionary, it's an old word meaning "Pertaining to > magical signs or symbols", which seems appropriate since the texts of > Agoran contracts

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/19/2020 5:08 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > My biggest concern here is that the budgets will get set wrong, we'll > run out of money for something important half way through the quarter, > and then suddenly there will be no pay for officers or judges or > whatever for the

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:06 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 5/19/2020 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:26 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> 3. This far too much mess to do monthly IMO, you'd barely sort out one > >> before it was time to do the next.

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/19/2020 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:26 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> 3. This far too much mess to do monthly IMO, you'd barely sort out one >> before it was time to do the next. Might I suggest quarterly? > > > I don't understand why. I think the confusion

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:26 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 5/17/2020 10:38 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > The Prime Minister's Budget Regulations may set the tax rate, R, > > a rational percentage value defaulting to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/19/2020 4:01 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > (There are also fee-based actions. I don't know if we have any right > now other than winning under R2483. Also, Agora currently CAN transfer > zombies to their owners, which is not done by announcement.) Also: Initiating Agoran

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/17/2020 10:38 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > The Prime Minister's Budget Regulations may set the tax rate, R, > a rational percentage value defaulting to 0%. The Registrar's Budget > Regulations may set the personal withholding, W, an integer defaulting to > twice

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 6:01:39 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > I suppose that's true, but with the change you proposed, I think it's > a little unclear how to interpret current rules that describe things > you can do with dependent actions. > > For example, R2465: "A player CAN

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 22:15, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:07:51 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:56 PM nch via agora-discussion > > > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:07:51 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:56 PM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you wrote: > > > I don't like this idea. The history of this provision is that I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:56 PM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you wrote: > > I don't like this idea. The history of this provision is that I gave a CFJ > > judgement essentially establishing something like this. Everyone > > (especially G.) thought it

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you wrote: > I don't like this idea. The history of this provision is that I gave a CFJ > judgement essentially establishing something like this. Everyone > (especially G.) thought it was a terrible idea, and they persuaded me. CAN > has a very sensible

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:14 AM nch via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 11:55:03 AM CDT nch via agora-business wrote: > > By my math this eliminates 108 words from the rules, and more importantly > > makes announcement default so it doesn't need

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:02 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > > The most important point is to make it so the system can realistically > > and consistently raise the funds it needs to operate. In the past, > > we've sometimes created such systems without doing that. In the past, > >

Re: DIS: [Proto] Promises

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > Might be better to make that consent conditional on the promise being > > cashed? I can't think of a plausible situation in which it could > > matter, but here's a contrived situation. Suppose I create a promise > > saying I become a candidate for the election for some office. That > > might

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Moot Attempt

2020-05-19 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/19/20 6:54 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > the original intents sent were not to the public forum LOOOL They were sent to both. See https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-May/042817.html -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Moot Attempt

2020-05-19 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
the original intents sent were not to the public forum LOOOL On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > > > > On May 18, 2020, at 21:20, Rebecca via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:15