DIS: Re: (@Treasuror @Registrar) Re: BUS: [Registrar] Zombie auction

2020-08-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/23/20 3:40 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> It looks like the rule clause allowing a zombie master to transfer a
> talisman to Agora is gone?  Or am I just being blind.  I don't want to
> diverge twg's state so:


Looks like talismans got rid of that clause [0]. I don't remember if
that was intentional or not.

[0]:
https://github.com/AgoraNomic/ruleset/commit/0f63e6df3f154e0c8f84bc58f19cabe66c8e5186#diff-1faf7647578a069d926169c35a0e5b0aL25

-- 
Jason Cobb



DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3875 Judged FALSE by G.

2020-08-23 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion



> On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> ==  CFJ 3875  ===
>> 
>> Somewhat Annoying Experiment has exactly 5 coins.
>> 
>> ==
>> 
>> Caller:Gaelan
>> 
>> Judge: G.
>> Judgement: FALSE
>> 
>> ==
> 
> I transfer all assets from Somewhat Annoying Experiment. If it now holds no 
> assets, I destroy that contract. [no reason to suspect this wouldn’t work; 
> the condition is pure paranoia]
> 
> Gaelan

I, er, transfer all assets from Somewhat Annoying Experiment *to myself*. If it 
now holds no assets, I destroy that contract.

See, my paranoia paid off.

Gaelan


DIS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-08-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 8/22/20 11:28 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote:
> Archived at
> https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries
> 
> Below is the report for the week of 2020-08-10..16.
> 
> 
> # Summary
> 
> Welcome, Nathan!
> 
> Get paid to write a weekly summary! The Agoran Press now exists, and
> seeks Reportors to share in the telling of our glorious never-ending
> story. Join the contract, claim the Weekly Assignment, and get 5 Coins
> for summarizing a week. (The contract became publicly funded on April
> 21, technically outside the time range covered by this document.)

Minor issue: I don't think that was in April.

> 
> This week, a healthy batch of rule-changes was adopted, including the
> gamification of Finger-Pointing. Agorans, don't let crime go unpunished
> --- a missed punishment is a missed opportunity!
> 
> Agorans love changing the rules, making contracts, moving assets around,
> and that sort of thing. But one proposal adopted this week gives some
> privileged players a new power to to do only things that are outside of
> that list of run-of-the-mill things. Our first Rulebender, G.,
> demonstrates the first "Rulebending Form", which gives names to the five
> Eastman weeks of each month.
> 
> Some of this week's proposals seemed like minor refactors or fixes, but
> were they? Murphy's "simpler ribbon switches" turns out to also get em a
> Transparent Ribbon.
> 
> Voting began on a pair of modest new proposals this week, and there is
> some discussion of changing the way glitter works.
> 
> CFJ 3873 is judged TRUE: it was Shelvacu's birthday on the day e
> registered. Agorans continue to stir things with new experiments,
> including a self-styled "Annoying Experiment" by Gaelan.
> 
> This week, ATMunn became our new speaker, and Birthday Tournament
> participants were awarded the Badge of Diplonomic.
> 
> 
> # Players old and new
> 
> * New player Nathan joins Agora.
> 
> * Bayushi makes an appearance in the thread "Somewhat Annoying Experiment".
> 
> 
> # Voting
> 
> * The decisions on adopting Proposals 8478-8487 are resolved.
> 
>   * Only 8481 is rejected. It would have made non-pending Proposals
>     disappear instead of having the Promotor track them. The Promotor
>     felt it wasn't needed.
> 
>   * Adopted:
> 
>     * Make Finger-Pointing competitive. (8479)
> 
>     * Make the rewards higher for more "complex" offices. (8482)
> 
>     * Apply the effects of "THE MYSTERY DOCUMENT", published last week
>   by G., which it turns enacts a new rule allowing certain players
>   to publish "Rulebending Forms" (8483)
> 
>     * Clarify Rule 2576, about asset ownership. (In the past, there's been
>   confusion about whether assets are destroyed or go to the Lost and
>   Found department, when their owner deregisters, for example.) (8484)
> 
>     * Make it so a person never ceases to be a person. (For one thing,
>   this means that keeping correct records doesn't require knowing who
>   is still alive.) (8485)
> 
>     * Simplify how Ribbon ownership is defined. But also, it turns out,
>   make people eligible for Transparent Ribbons. (8487)
> 
>     * Various fixes. (8478, 8480, 8486)
> 
> * Voting begins on Proposals 8488 and 8489:
> 
>   * Proposal 8488 is another tweak related to the fee-based action
>     rules.
> 
>   * Proposal 8489 adds a new mechanic to the officer card-granting
>     rules.
> 
> 
> # Scams, rule questions, etc.
> 
> * Can a Rulebending Form escape its limitations by explicitly taking
>   precedence over the rule that limits it? ais523 calls CFJ 3874 in the
>   thread "Resolution of Proposals 8478-8487".
> 
> * Can a player be granted birthday gifts on the same day they register?
>   Yes. (CFJ 3873)
> 
>   * Trigon is annoyed because others agreed this wasn't a problem when e
>     came up with the original wording. Thread: "Forbes 485"
> 
> * G. points out a zombie owner can bid in a zombie auction. Before a
>   recent auction overhaul, this was prohibited. Thread: "August zombie
>   auction"
> 
> * G. publishes the first "Rulebending Form", which gives names to the
>   five Eastman weeks of each month. Thread: "The First Form"
> 
> * Are hard-to-compute contract provisions effective? Gaelan tries an
>   experiment in the thread "Somewhat Annoying Experiment", calling CFJ
>   3875.
> 
> * Can multiple persons in the same body receive ribbons? ATMunn calls
>   CFJs in the thread "[Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners,
>   Badge, and Clean-up".
> 
> * When an officer's report includes a caveat, does the indicated
>   information still self-ratify if it's not separately CoE-ed? Thread:
>   "[Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 486"
> 
> * Jason sends a message to the backup list that at first seems like it
>   might be an objection to an intent to Declare Apathy that nobody saw.
>   But it looks like e just manually added "Re:" to the start of the
>   subject line. Thread: "Re: BAK: Apathy Intent"
> 
> * After