DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

On Thu, 18 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:     Watchers confirmed as of Sep 2016:     Nickname          Contact              ---     Ørjan             oerjan at nvg.ntnu.no Another Unicode error. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Machine-Readable Reports

On Tue, 16 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: I've long thought that if an action has a sufficiently well-defined format, we should define a machine-readable format for it and have that action taken by posting that machine-readable string to a PF, rather than by announcement; this is mostly to make it

Re: DIS: Robo-Ref-ideas

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 4:23 PM Quazie wrote: the referee's quota, and if an officer receives some number N `Report Cards' - 8 perhaps - then any player may oust the current officer from their position. Any player already can do that, by deputising for the office.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Economic Flexibility

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: Let me make sure I understand the intent: if this only defined a switch, then proposals of AI=1 could adjust it. Because it’s in a rule with P=3, only proposals with AI=3 or higher can adjust the switch, and only if they also adjust the rule text? I

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Dictator] Monument

On Fri, 9 Dec 2016, Kerim Aydin wrote: So R100 is the lowest number never used, and if this whole discussion doesn't make the assignment too ambiguous to happen, that's where this would end up when first triggered. This seems to confuse lowest and highest. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7821-7830

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016, nichdel wrote: Final quorum: 0 I think this should be 2. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: OFF: [deputy Secretary] Charter Report

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016, Owen Jacobson wrote: Recent events (all times UTC) Sat 28 Nov 21:20:33 The Agoran Credit Union created Sat 28 Nov 22:10:45 The Agoran Betting Market created Sun 6 Dec 17:49:44 The Agoran Credit Union charter amended Mon 21 Dec 18:01:09 The Agoran Betting Market charter

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Simple Economy

On Fri, 4 Nov 2016, nichdel wrote: I submit the following proposal (I'll pend in a couple days after a feedback period): Title: Simple Economics Adoption index: 2.0 Author: nichdel Co-author(s): G. Any player MAY pay Agora, any other player, or any organization any amount by

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Prime Minister election

On Fri, 4 Nov 2016, ais523 wrote: It's probably simplest to define like this: "Repeatedly eliminate the player with the fewest first-choice votes until someone wins. Votes for eliminated players don't count (thus potentially promoting someone else to hold the first-choice position)." Set of

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election

On Fri, 21 Oct 2016, ais523 wrote: On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 22:02 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 13:41 Luis Ressel wrote: Congrats to our new Promotor! I'm glad something is interested in taking this over after almost two years. If you've got any questions

Re: DIS: Watchers: a question about the weekly registrars report

On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Nicholas Evans wrote: Fair point. I encourage any current watchers to reply to this thread, and I'll add you to the list. I guess I'm watching... Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Proto: Old/New Economy Draft

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Kerim Aydin wrote: One of the interesting aspects of the old currency system (not mentioned in my proto- thesis) was that we had a strong precedent/rules (can't remember how much was rules versus precedent) that we were using very Classical math in that that currencies

Re: DIS: watcher status?

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Ørjan Johansen wrote: Elder Lurker is in fact a held and official Patent Title. Probably a title Chuck should get after chiming in on Fri :_) *Feels slightly miffed* Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: watcher status?

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, David Nicol wrote: Daydreaming here about trying to leverage my involvement with this game (since its inception!) into a non-frivolous claim that I am "a member in good standing" of something. Am I still a registered Watcher? You are still listed as one in the Registrar's

DIS: Re: BUS: draft Thesis: an old currency system

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Kerim Aydin wrote: First, this system hit a real sweet spot in decision and contestable "exciting" points. Grind with Stems, make strategic decisions with Roles, play them out with the other currencies. Offices with "power" to set policies that had gameplay impacts.

Re: DIS: Proposals

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016, Luis Ressel wrote: Whoops, I probably should've read agora-discussion before distributing the proposals. Sorry! You know, once upon a time we used to keep the (informal) proto-proposal stage separate from actually proposing. Just saying. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Assessor election

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016, Gaelan Bright Steele wrote: I vote for myself. Your message appears to have no plain text version. This is abominable HTH. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: check in with the front desk to hold your reservation

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Alex Smith wrote: Ugh. Is Received: enough to tell which list the message was actually sent via? Or do we have to check the list archives for every single message to make sure it was actually sent? Yes, although Sender: and Delivered-To: look easier. Although if it's a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: check in with the front desk to hold your reservation

On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Alex Smith wrote: I actually got two objection emails from Gaelan and they both went to a-d. Actually not, the last one just has a deceptive To: header. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Official rules?

On Sun, 16 Aug 2015, Kerim Aydin wrote: Copy-paste from here: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/rkeep/current_slr.txt Rule 1688/7 (Power=3) The Power of an entity is a non-negative rational number. An (T is under the 6). From here:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Humiliating Reminder Resolution of the Silver Quill Ceremony

On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Hunt wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: I was about to quibble with the logic (but not the tally) because given the unconditional votes listed, the outcome of aranea's vote does not depend on what omd votes. However because

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Humiliating Reminder Resolution of the Silver Quill Ceremony

On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Hunt wrote: To resolve the conditional votes, I observe that a) aranea's vote does potentially depend on omd's, so I do not consider it in resolving the conditional b) therefore, omd's vote resolves to Revised Province of Agora c) therefore, aranea's vote resolves to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's punish people again

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, Kerim Aydin wrote: In interpreting the functioning of assets, assets should generally be assumed to be indivisible physical objects in the possession of their owners, and that transfers between owners are in person. Given that the common sense meaning

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results for Proposals 7758-7762

On Sun, 19 Jul 2015, Kerim Aydin wrote: Also add Joe Piercy and aranea to without column. And confirming no overly-clever Distributor slipped it into the raw headers ;). -G. Do you really need special list admin powers for that? Testing... Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, omd wrote: (d) If the valid options are ordered lists of preferences, the outcome is decided using instant-runoff voting. In case of a tie at any stage during the instant runoff, the vote collector CAN and must, in the announcement of the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 7757

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Gaelan Steele wrote: I’ll admit I’m not quite sure what this proposal does, other than re-title the proposal. Does it do anything else? It fixes a technical bug that made retitling not actually work. Basically, amending is defined in Rule 105 as a separate class of Rule

DIS: Re: BUS: PROPOSAL: Into the 21st century

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Gaelan Steele wrote: I think it’s time we allow HTML reports. I submit this proposal: Argh, please don't. Since I access my old NVG account only through ssh, I use a terminal-based mail reader (alpine), and although it tries to display HTML, it does not treat all HTML

Re: DIS: Happy birthday!

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Chuck Carroll wrote: Greetings and felicitations to all Agorans, past and present, and a happy 22nd birthday to Agora! Long may she live! Happy birthday! Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

On Fri, 29 May 2015, Alex Smith wrote: I endorse aranea. -- ais523 who has a feeling that this doesn't actually work Are you referring to endorsing for support/objection (which doesn't seem to be an Agoran decision and so wouldn't be covered by 2127), or do you think there's some bug with

DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

On Thu, 28 May 2015, Luis Ressel wrote: -- The Herald is authorized to award aranea the Patent Title of Champion. -- Silly idea: That the Herald instead use Rule 649 to award aranea the Patent Title of Unchampioned. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 7733

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015, Alex Smith wrote: 7733* Murphy 1.0 Sincere flattery You stole that idea off BlogNomic, didn't you? Oh, that explains the strange title. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: making semi-trusted dice?

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, Alex Smith wrote: comes up with a mapping from random results to answers (although this can't be done as ranges, e.g. if you want a 75% probability, you need not just 1-3: yes, 4: no and 1: no, 2-4: yes but also 1, 2, 4: yes, 3: no and 1, 3, 4: yes, 2: no), and then

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [King Azaz] Royal Banquet

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 13 November 2014 09:53, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: - List of words: curl http://agora.qoid.us/current_slr.txt | egrep '^ ' | egrep -o '[^ ]+' This gives all words in the SLR, which includes rule titles, boilerplate text etc, i.e. not only

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results for Proposals 7698-7710

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, omd wrote: *7698 1 ais523 Ribbons 2014 x7699 3 scshunt Immutability *7700 1 Henri Office Salary *7701 1 Henri Credits x7702 1 Henri Minister for Social Stratification *7703 1 G. hard reset *7704 1 G. Fixes the Oxford

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Revised distribution of proposals 7721-24

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, omd wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Luis Ressel ara...@aixah.de wrote: 7723 Henri 1.0 Single line feed AGAINST. I'm shocked you'd vote AGAINST. I can't even find a *hypothetical* problem with any of the changes being proposed. What? _All_ of the changes

Re: DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Henri Bouchard wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 22:23 -0400, omd wrote: [...] 7700 1 Henri Office Salary AGAINST; we've attempted this sort of rule quite a lot, and it's never been worth the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7711-20

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, omd wrote: By the way, it was pointed out that this violates the recently arguably reestablished custom of installing an officer, so I probably should have changed it. But in any case, I volunteer to recordkeep this, and since I'm pretty sure King Azaz cannot even

Re: DIS: Protos: bring back contracts!

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: As I said, that's the dominant opinion right now. It *wasn't* the opinion of the game circa 2001, and it worked fine. In fact, it was the most traded section of the economy. Idea: Make the reward for having a proposal distributed something you need

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Alex Smith wrote: My current opinion on that proposal is: a) omd does not currently know of a way to scam it; b) omd thinks the proposal is genuinely good for the game; and c) omd will nonetheless probably come up with some way to scam it later on. I suddenly got this

DIS: Re: BUS: oyhh

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: oh crap I think I miswrote/remembered/pasted a date. was just coming to resolve, thought I had a few hours, but may be too late. really. you won't believe me but really. crap. I find it somehow appropriate that you posted this just as we Europeans

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fast Track

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Eritivus wrote: I guess the power of rules enacted by illicit fast track ratification actually can't be more than 3, since the fast track rule has power 3? So not as worrisome as I thought. If you want to make higher-powered rules

DIS: Re: BUS: PROPOSAL: Credits

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Henri Bouchard wrote: I submit the following proposal: -- PROPOSAL: Credits Replace every instance of the word points in the ruleset excluding the instances of the word points in Rule 1023 (Common

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Scorekeepor] A very lazy attempt at scorekeeping

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, omd wrote: Referee was vacant. Oops, forgot about that part of ais523's scam. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Scorekeepor] A very lazy attempt at scorekeeping

On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, omd wrote: Meh... I deputise for Referee to award aranea a Yellow Card, as this report, while justifiable (and apparently partially my fault? I don't remember the context - I thought I calculated it accurately after my correction), is against the rules. Then I resign

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Minister for GNP Evaluation] Weekly GNP Analysis Report

On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: NOW TAKING BETS for GNP for the Week of 2014-10-13! - BET up to 100 Florins per week by private message to me, or via discussion forum. BETTING CLOSES 24 hours before end of week. Heh heh heh... - ODDS PAYOFF BELOW. Bookie's purse is infinite. -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy IADoP] Metareport

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014, Alex Smith wrote: why isn't it officeholdor, come to think of it? *Grumble* the -or suffix used to only apply to -keepor, *Grumble* Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: a bold assertion

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: Oh, if all this failed because I didn't assign a CFJ #, I do it again while assigning it CFJ#3423 at the appropriate juncture. -G. AFAICT CFJ numbers have no official status whatsoever. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3418 assigned to Murphy

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: 3418 (Henri): Midnight Monday is defined as 24:00. is hereby assigned to Murphy. Hm by my reading of the dice server reply that should have been assigned to scshunt, why wasn't it? Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3419 assgined to Henri

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: CFJ 3419 (scshunt): If Rule 1789 were repealed, the obligation on the Registrar to note the method of deregistration of players deregistered by Writ of FAGE would remain. is hereby assigned to Henri. And I'd have thought that would go to Murphy again?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Henri Bouchard wrote: So will I. -scshunt Replying without quoting at all is rather annoying, especially when messages are coming in a day late in random order... Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Possibly Impotent Revenge against Evil Signature Enforcers

I am not sure that top posting your signature is legal. On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Sean Hunt wrote: I'd take this case. -scshunt On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I deputise for the Referee to award a Red Card to Henri for publishing a Registrar's Report without signing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Possibly Impotent Revenge against Evil Signature Enforcers

Oh wait. publishing implies a Public Forum, not Discussion. Which means scshunt is also in the clear. Greetings, Ørjan. On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Ørjan Johansen wrote: I am not sure that top posting your signature is legal. On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Sean Hunt wrote: I'd take this case. -scshunt

Re: DIS: Re: Try 3

On Mon, 2 Jun 2014, omd wrote: I apologize for, like, the fifth time for the downtime, and hope that this time it's actually fixed rather than about to break again as soon as I look the other way. APOLOGY ACCEPTED (Also, testing) Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BAK: [Fwd: [Fwd: Judgement in CFJ 3406]]

On Fri, 30 May 2014, Fool wrote in a surprisingly non-foolish judgement: It's too bad prop 7657 could not have resolved first, but, time is running out and, as per H. Assessor, you guys are lame. Now Sean was of course legally required to insult you. I, on the other hand, am insulting you pro

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3406 assigned to Fool

On Sat, 24 May 2014, x1122334455 wrote: So what just happened? You went way over time on delivering a judgement, so the Arbitor removed you from the case and reassigned it to someone else. By doing so, you have broken Rule 591. From my brief search of the rules, there seems no longer to

DIS: Re: BUS: oops, redux

On Mon, 19 May 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: [added 'unconditional' because conditional voting makes this trivial] I remove my proposal, Back to Basics, from the Pool. I submit the following Proposal, Back to Basics, AI-1: I'd imagine this sort of thing would be more interesting with secret

DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Blitz Nomic

On Mon, 5 May 2014, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Amend the text in Rule 1769 (Holidays) reading:       The week that contains the beginning of Agora's Birthday,       together with the following week, are a Holiday. to read:       The week that contains the beginning of Agora's Birthday,      

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results on Proposals 7632-7640

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Sean Hunt wrote: [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the following proposals. For each decision, the options available to Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).] [Note that due to the changes in voting in Proposal 7629, I am

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution...

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, x1122334455 wrote: I apologize, what's going on? I'm new. They're voting on a proposal for fixing a bug in one of the rules for how to win the game, but they don't seem to agree that the new version is bug free. :) Greetings, Ørjan. On 4/22/14 at 1:10am, Pavitra

DIS: Re: BUS: slow play still

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Alex Smith wrote: I find people are normally more interested in charting round the current rules for a scoring system, than trying to improve them. I guess from my point of view, I'm in a pretty good position to win by exploiting the current rules, so why would I want them

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3400 assigned to woggle

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: This is, in part, why the original Suberian ruleset made sure to specify that the worst that could happen to you was leaving the game, because in nomic the in-game and out-of-game are in a very different place than in traditional games (didn't Vlad

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3400 assigned to woggle

On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Ørjan Johansen wrote: I thought it was Swann (a bit hard to cross reference pseudonyms :P), but anyhow the book I remember is http://www.amazon.com/The-Omega-Game-Steven-Krane/dp/0886779073 Oh hm definitely Swann: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._Andrew_Swann (BTW I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, omd wrote: I'm somewhat skeptical of the word organism. If it has to be biological, then just say human, there's no guarantee hypothetical space aliens or AIs would be considered organisms anyway. :) [snip] /me wonders whether speculating about Tines is too silly for the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Current Game Report

On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Alex Smith wrote: + 9 2 2 1 0 i (Now Philomory has no operators, I have no operators but one 'i', and my score is 0+92210i.) Opinions sought on game balance: should we implement omd's suggestion of limiting huge jumps by allowing

DIS: Re: BUS: Simulation Time second intent

On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: RR1. In a timely fashion after this clause takes effect, the Herald CAN and SHALL set each player's Score to a random complex number with a magnitude of (100 plus eir immediately previous magnitude), by announcement. In a timely fashion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Simulation Time second intent

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Ørjan Johansen wrote: What's a new player's immediately previous magnitude? Also, what is the precision of these random complex numbers, we probably don't want the Herald to compute infinitely many digits... Oh never mind, Rule 2419 answers both questions. Greetings

DIS: Re: BUS: Simulation Time

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to amend the OPERATIONS MANUAL by appending the following, where [RR1..6] will be replaced with the sequence of six lowest integers not already in use as clause numbers. s/integers/positive integers/ RR1. In a timely

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Report

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014, Ed Murphy wrote: Registrar's Report I believe that _if_ you weren't a player when the election was resolved, then the office immediately became vacant again. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7618-7620

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014, Alex Smith wrote: [Apologies for the formatting, my email is still somewhat wonky.] Yes, leaving out the date of the quoted message is clearly evil. That was what you meant, right? Since it was perfect in every other way. Not a html tag in sight. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results for 7615-7617

On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, omd wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Wow. Significant rules changes and a quite high voter count. I'm happy. Indeed... a bold new era of cleaning up the mistakes we just put into

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7614

On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: Not a big deal, not planned as a scheme to control current batch of proposals, just a minor personal preference. BTW with the current system it would seem to speed things up if you distribute closer to the beginning of the week. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: The Ruleset

On Wed, 1 Jan 2014, Henri Bouchard wrote: Is the ruleset on the berkeley website not updated regularly?: https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/current_flr.txt That's woggle's website. The last updates in that directory are from Sep 13, the same day he resigned Rulekeepor because of

Re: DIS: subgame proto attempt

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 18 December 2013 06:36, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: If the Ant Farm Manifesto states that a player's (Agoran) score would change, the Ant Farmer SHALL announce that change as soon

Re: DIS: subgame proto attempt

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: Med. Af. Syria, Carthage, Spain Not sure how much historical accuracy you're going for here, but I think historically Roman Africa contained and started with (defeated) Carthage. I guess that was all the Republic had down there; Egypt didn't get

Re: DIS: subgame proto attempt

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: If the Ant Farm Manifesto states that a player's (Agoran) score would change, the Ant Farmer SHALL announce that change as soon as possible, and that announcement, if true, changes the player's score as announced. I get a bit nervous

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Alex Smith wrote: Quorum for an Agoran Decision is equal to the number of currently active players who voted on the most recently resolved Agoran Decision to adopt a proposal, minus 3. Determined at what time? The current Rule 879 depends on the definition of eligible

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Alex Smith wrote: It shouldn't make scams easier unless there's widespread disinterest in a distribution. In fact, the rule would provide an incentive to vote (so as to prevent the following distribution being used for a voting scam). I imagine it could scammably amplify

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: quorum call

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Max Schutz wrote: even though my name is not on this list I also object we are still just trying to get back up off the ground  I don't think that worked as you didn't post to a PF. Which is just as well, as reducing Quorum down to the level of people who are actually

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: quorum call

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Max Schutz wrote: ok then this is me objecting to the whole darn prospect  Did you not read what I wrote, or are you just being a jerk? Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: quorum call

inactive without objection. For this to work, players must not object to making others inactive, if they don't know that the others are really going to play. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Max Schutz wrote: I'm visually impaired thank you very much On Dec 13, 2013 11:08 PM, Ørjan

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assumed CotC] Clerk's Docket

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Thelas Staloras wrote: Clerk's Docket Argh please use plain text at least for officers' reports. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Resigning Rulekeepor

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013, woggle wrote: I do not believe I will have time in the next month to fulfill the obligations created by Proposal 7599 for me to create two new formats of the ruleset, both of which require substantial manual annotation. Therefore, I resign Rulekeepor. You'd think

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3397 assiged to Murphy

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Alex Smith wrote: On another note, is there any reason why it wouldn't be democratizable right now? We could try to democratize it again. (Also, do the voting limits matter, given that nobody attempted to cast more than one vote?) Note that giving no number is equivalent

Re: DIS: Registrar's Report

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, Henri Bouchard wrote: Is the Registrar's report weekly or monthly? It does not state in the Ruleset whether it is weekly or monthly. -Henri From Rule 2143: Any information defined by the rules as part of a person's report, without specifying which one, is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, omd wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: No. New gameplay ideas are for when the core is working. It is not right now. The four most important offices are all empty. We do not have the resources to build new gameplay. I am

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Proposals 7548-7586

On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote: On 25 Aug 2013, at 08:51, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: COE: That is not ambiguous as it has exactly one reasonable interpretation. I transfer Y5 to the Assessor (Oerjan

DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: Transfer Zombie G. to Fool, amend its text to I perform the LEGAL actions specified by the casher in the cashing message. I create a promise identical to this one and transfer it to the casher., and set its expiry to the epoch. This suddenly made me

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Trying again

NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Joe Stefek wrote: If this was a nomination for me, I decline my nomination. --aperfectring On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: The Tibetan Contest

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote:       The Contestmastor AAA! It should only apply to -keepor dammit! :( Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: [Ambassador-at-Large] Note on nommit

On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: Agora has never been invaded that I'm aware of, My first registration was part of a very ineffective invasion (from Nomicapolis, IIRC). So ineffective that Agora never noticed?

Re: DIS: [Ambassador-at-Large] Note on nommit

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013, Craig Daniel wrote: Agora has never been invaded that I'm aware of, but is still a little paranoid about it and has more robust mechanisms for trying to stop such things in a hurry. Agora _has_ invaded other nomics though. I vaguely think the first time we did so

Re: DIS: agoran language

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013, Benjamin Schultz wrote: I thought Blob was the first Agoran to insist on being addressed with Spivak pronouns. Ah right I remember his viscous persona. And he was probably not coincidentally also the author of the rule using one in that Nomic World ruleset I linked.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3381 assigned to ais523

On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Fool wrote in response to Craig Daniel: I also notice that nothing stops anyone else from repeating what you just did and also winning. I'm sure a lot of people see this. And yet nobody's doing it. It sort of looks like nobody cares. I understood ais523's judgement to

Re: DIS: agoran language

On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Max Schutz wrote: i am just curious and i don't there was EVER an explanation given but i see e in liue he almost like pirate language i am just wondering if those dialects are like designated agoran language Yes, Agora traditionally uses the gender neutral Spivak

Re: Fwd: DIS: Ambassador's Survey - Your Chance To Win Great Prizes!

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: If I'm not mistaken, this hasn't gone through yet. I distinctly recall seeing it before. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Future of Agora

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013, Fool wrote: Ratification is a legal fiction. Lacanist obscurity implies that the goal of the participant is deconstruction, but only if consciousness is distinct from language; if that is not the case, we can assume that discourse must come from the masses. In a sense,

Re: DIS: Future of Agora

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013, Elliott Hird wrote: On 4 August 2013 02:54, com...@gmail.com wrote: You may argue that after this long, there is probably *some* other reason why the platonic gamestate is wrong, and a few have been proposed over the years. But we try our best. If sufficient mail

Re: DIS: Future of Agora

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013, omd wrote: although I suppose it's the job of an invasion to be polite, Someone should have told that to the mongols. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stuff

On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Benjamin Schultz wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: I dunno, I hear cats are quite proficient at using keyboards. Greetings, Ørjan. I think you mean sleeping on keyboards. I fail to see how sleeping on is not using

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stuff

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote: Davy I may, however, struggle with the requirement to be generally capable of communicating via email. I dunno, I hear cats are quite proficient at using keyboards. Greetings, Ørjan.

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