Re: DIS: [Protos] Administrative Reforms

2020-06-06 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> Each officer CAN, with official consent, enact, amend, or repeal > their own office's Administrative Regulations. Administrative Regulations > have the following properties: "eir own office's"? - Falsifian

Re: DIS: [Protos] Rule Violation Options

2020-06-06 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> E.g. "Certain actions are defined as infractions - these incur penalties > but not rule violations per se. Certain actions are defined as crimes. > You're breaking the rules if you do those. Really, don't do those." That would be nice. Is that how crimes and infractions were distinguished in

Re: DIS: [Protos] Rule Violation Options

2020-06-05 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 18:20, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/5/2020 10:58 AM, James Cook wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 02:47, Rebecca wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:42 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >> > >>> What do y'all think of these

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-06-05 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Oops, not intended. P.S.S, any objection to being removed from the Watchers list? - Falsifian On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 17:47, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > Just noticed that P.S.S. is listed as both a player and a watcher. Is > this intended? > > On 6/2/2020 3:23 PM, James Co

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] DADA Soft Repeal

2020-06-05 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 03:14, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > I create the following proposal > Title: Guilderoy Lockhart > Coauthor G. > AI: 1 > Chamber: Legislation > Text: Amend rule 2617 by deleting the last three paragraphs and the first > sentence [nonbinding explanatory note: this would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Identity theft protection act v1.1 (was: Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process)

2020-06-05 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
, 5 Jun 2020 at 02:55, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > it doesn't need AI 3.1: any proposal with AI 3 can amend any rule of > whatever power (rules are odd) > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:20 AM James Cook via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >

Re: DIS: [Protos] Rule Violation Options

2020-06-05 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 02:47, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:42 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > What do y'all think of these? If there's a strong consensus for one or > > the other, I'll only submit that one.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-04 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> [ > As a side note, I've noticed recently there's a bit of divergence about > how people treat the importance of Notices of Honour. I've mostly thought > of NoHs as "expressing mild annoyance" rather than anything more serious > (though sometimes I mis-judge the tone in the justification). But

Re: DIS: Proto-Contract: LoAFER second draft

2020-06-03 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> >>* Submitting a CFJ to the Referee: signal Referee > > > > I think this is in the wrong place. > > Would you prefer I put it in the Arbitor section? When submitting a CFJ > to the Referee instead of the Arbitor, I think that pertains mostly to > the Referee. It was in the Registrar

DIS: Re: OFF: [Notary] Totally 100dollarspercent real weekly report

2020-06-03 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> === CONTRACT === > |履Chattelbeam履 rev. 2| > |PARTIES: Cuddlebeam, > > This contract only has up to two parties, one of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-06-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 23:27, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/2/2020 4:15 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 6/2/2020 10:53 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >> This topic has been bugging me ever since some recent CFJ > >> discussion(s) (don

DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-06-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-25..31: # Summary Welcome back, ATMunn! This week, R. Lee is keeping things fun with a proposed Flappy Bird tournament and a proposal bribing voters with black ribbons in return for

Re: DIS: Proto-Contract: LoAFER second draft

2020-06-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> * Registrar > * Deregistration: [Deregistration] > * Changing the master switch of a player: > * If to Agora, [Zombification] > * If to emself, [Unzombification] > * Submission of a Canteus Cygneus, if to a public forum: [Canteus > Cygneus] I think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-06-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> Because what makes a judgement "appropriate" as per R591 is its specific > relationship to the statement, not the intended statement. > > -G. I was wondering whether evidence of the author's intention can affect the meaning of a statement. I'm pretty sure the meaning of a statement can depend

Re: Fw: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > Keep in mind that word choice, even where it's synonymous in a vacuum, > > conveys > > meaning. This is a feature of language, we unconsciously assume speakers are > > efficient and pragmatic and when expectations are broken it conveys > > additional > > meaning. You used "if and only if"

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 01:57, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Monday, June 1, 2020 8:46:09 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > Isn't that still a difference in intended meaning? Maybe I didn't > > phrase it clearly enough the first time, bu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 01:35, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Monday, June 1, 2020 8:23:42 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 19:29, nch via agora-business > > > > wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:06:51 PM CDT

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3837 Assigned to grok

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 19:29, nch via agora-business wrote: > On Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:06:51 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > > The below CFJ is 3837. I assign it to grok. > > > > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3837 > > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> I award myself Violet glitter for the 3 months title. > > I award myself Violet glitter for the 9 months title. > > -- > Jason Cobb I don't think the second one works, since you had "been awarded that type of Ribbon or the corresponding type of Glitter since [you] last earned or came to qualify

DIS: Re: BUS: a regulatory experiment (auctions)

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> specific auction methods (i.e. "the default auction method") and Should that be "e.g."? - Falsifian

DIS: [Attn: Assessor] Re: BUS: a regulatory experiment (auctions)

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 16:44, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal, "no stinking auction definitions", AI-2: How does the Assessor feel about delaying the adoption of this proposal until winners of lots in the June zombie auction (to be started soon, once the

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 06:15, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > How does this look? All the AIs in the full text section are listed as 3.0; that's probably not right. - Falsifian

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8388-8404

2020-05-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > 8393f Aris 2.0 Elections Aren't Over Till They End > AGAINST. We have many uncontested elections, and this delays their end > considerably. (Alternative: If we allow nominations until the very end, > why have an initial nomination period to begin with?) Why do you

Re: DIS: Back-Awarding of Silver Quills

2020-05-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > Equity itself is transactional though, because we're all players and any > > transactions might affect all of us. In chess a judge could make a ruling > > to even it out, but our judges are also playing at the same time. > > > > What about automatically blotting violations and then raise it

Re: DIS: Back-Awarding of Silver Quills

2020-05-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 16:38, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 2:34 AM Rebecca wrote: > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 2:27 AM James Cook via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 28 May 2020 at

Re: DIS: [Proto] College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences

2020-05-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> A specific degree CANNOT > be awarded to any person more than once. Sometimes patent titles get lost. Would this provision make it harder to restore a missing degree? Maybe it should say a specific degree CANNOT be awarded to a person who already has it. - Falsifian

Re: DIS: Back-Awarding of Silver Quills

2020-05-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 16:14, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 2:11 AM Alex Smith via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 28 May 2020, 17:03:57 GMT+1, James Cook via > > agora-discussion

DIS: Re: BUS: hi its me again

2020-05-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 01:02, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > - Agora has a dragon now (?!?) I think the Dragon Corporation's IPO ends on May 30 (23:13 UTC). Until then, it's 10 coins per share; come join our venture! You can find the full text (except an amendment to shorten voting periods)

Re: DIS: Back-Awarding of Silver Quills

2020-05-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> In fact, it may be a good idea to have two separate tiers of crimes anyway: > small infractions that earn you some blots, and serious ones that come with a > punishment you can't pay off. I think that'd reconcile the ideas of "justice > as > a game mechanic" and "justice as a way to deal with

Re: DIS: Back-Awarding of Silver Quills

2020-05-27 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> *7831 Alexis 3.0 Vigilante Justice > The full creation of the cards system of justice (many pieces of which > remain in the Referee rules). That was an interesting read. (Adopted Dec 5, 2016; https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2016-December/011302.html )

DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-18..24: # Summary Welcome, Bögtil, and welcome back, grok! Well, it turns out auctions are still broken. Will we ever get them right? G. proposes to just let the auctioneer figure

Re: DIS: [Research Request] Thoughts on Technical Domains of Control

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> Obviously, answering all of these questions is a lot of work and the > goal of my thesis, but if anything quickly comes to mind, I'd > appreciate any contributions. Blockchains are an elaborate solution to the problem of agreeing on a set of public events and in what order they happened. This

Re: DIS: [Research Request] Thoughts on Technical Domains of Control

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 22:27, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > I'm currently starting on a thesis about technical domains of control. > I'm planning to build on my judgement in CFJ 3642 and incorporate an > even more thorough review of the literature and, if I can,

Re: DIS: Thesis Snippet

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> I'm aware of all these arguments and at one point would have endorsed them. > However I've generally over time come to the conclusion that idiosyncrasy, > which expresses culture and identity, has as much (or more) value as > standardization does. Thus, I'm not inclined to change the way I

Re: DIS: Thesis Snippet

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> "Broader problems" and "what was fun" are actually really difficult to tackle. > Both would require diving into a-d much more, which is a very high-traffic > list, > and trying to interpret people's contemporary feelings. It's both more work > and risks misrepresenting people. Understood.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8388-8404

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> // > ID: 3399 > Title: E had two months! Wrong ID here. I don't know whether that stopped it from being distributed. - Falsifian

Re: DIS: Thesis Snippet

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 23:18, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 6:10:25 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > One nitpick: I'm not sure how to read the last two dates. I can infer > > it's not day/month/year but not sure if there are

Re: DIS: Thesis Snippet

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> 1) What kind of information does everyone want for each economic system and Off the top of my head: * the basic mechanisms (yes, flow charts are helpful) * rule bugs and broader problems with the economies, so we can learn from the past * what was fun or otherwise good about them (G.'s note

Re: DIS: Thesis Snippet

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> === > Summarized Timeline > === > 2000Stems begins [1] > 04/24/03 Stems Ends, Tabla Rasa Begins due to Proposal 4486 [2] > 12/05/16 Shinies Begins I like reading about Agoran history, so thanks for this work. One nitpick: I'm not sure how to read the

Re: DIS: [Proto] College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences

2020-05-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:07, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-05-24 23:46, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:50 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> On 2020-05-24 15:44, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > >>>

Re: DIS: [proto] Talismans

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > I think this would mean a talisman stops existing when its zombie > > ceases to be a zombie, since it ceases to be defined by the rules. If > > we're worried about that we could add "The talisman of a zombie is > > destroyed when that zombie ceases to be a zombie.". > > I think you're right

Re: DIS: [proto] Talismans

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> >> The Registrar SHALL track the date that a talisman for each zombie last > >> belonged to Agora in eir weekly report. The Registrar SHALL perform all > >> POSSIBLE actions in the preceding paragraph in a timely fashion after > >> first reporting their possibility via the facts in eir weekly

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory (revised)

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 20:16, nch via agora-business wrote: > On Monday, May 18, 2020 3:44:47 PM CDT James Cook via agora-official wrote: > > On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 02:50, Jason Cobb via agora-business > > > > wrote: > > > On 5/16/20 10:48 PM, James Cook via agora

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> Zombie master and resale value switches (self-ratifying) > > Resale Last ownedDue to flip > Zombie Master valueby Agora to Agora > -- -- --- --- --- > twgAgora 2

Re: DIS: Auction overhaul first cut

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 18:35, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM James Cook via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > TODO: what happens to exess lots? > > > > > > One option

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Petition of the Associate Director of Personnel

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 08:26, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: >* ADoP Murphy, nine months >* Arbitor G., nine months >* Assessor Jason, nine months >* Distributor omd, twelve months >* Promotor Aris, twelve months >* Registrar Falsifian, twelve months >*

Re: DIS: [proto] Talismans

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Master is secured at power 2. Is there a way to secure asset ownership? Do we care? > A talisman is an asset with ownership restricted to players and Agora. > If there ever does not exist a talisman for a certain zombie, one is > created in the possession of Agora. If there ever exists more than

Re: DIS: Auction overhaul first cut

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> * the minimum bid, and optionally the currency of the auction; What's the default if the currency isn't specified? > * As part of the Notice, one or more by-announcement actions that >succeed in either transferring to the block, or creating in >possession of the

Re: DIS: Auction overhaul first cut

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > TODO: what happens to exess lots? > > One option that I can see would be to have it go to Lost and Found or > have it returned to Agora. In either of these circumstances, there > could be some procedure for it entering a periodic consolidated > auction. We could also destroy it, but I don't

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Cantus Counterscam

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 15:40, grok (caleb vines) via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > { > > Title: Cantus Counterscam > Author: grok > Co-Author: nch > AI: 3 > > Modify Rule 1789/11 "Cantus Cygneus" by inserting the following > paragraph at the end: > > "A person

Re: DIS: Protos: Referral and High Crimes

2020-05-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> The newspaper just called me out for telling lots of old stories, but It wasn't a criticism! - Falsifian

DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-11..17: # Summary Last Week in Agora is back to report on an Agora abuzz with activity. This week, Cuddle Beam appeals to Agorans to keep better historical records. Fortunately, much

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Mooting moots

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > I had been under the impression that the current case of CFJ 3831 is > > sort of like that, since I don't remember people disagreeing with the > > judgement until somewhat later. > > Yes the main issue was there wasn't a peep of complaint for the first > 2 weeks (at least that I saw). There

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Trying to get a sense of how the numbers would work out: As far as I can tell, cards are created as follows: * When the game is enacted or someone wins it. (1 Card of each type per player) * When a player gets a welcome package. (1 Card of each type) * Each officer can create 1 card per month.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387 CoE

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 02:50, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:45 PM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > > I thought there was another error, but can't seem to find it. > > > > > > -Aris > > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Mooting moots

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 01:26, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal, "Mooting moots", co-author R. Lee, AI-1.7: > > > > Amend Rule 911 (Motions and Moots) by deleting all the text from "If a

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 00:33, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/19/2020 5:08 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > My biggest concern here is that the budgets will get set wrong, we'll > > run out of money for something important half way through the quarter, > > and then

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > That could probably be fixed, but it does seem to change the way at > > least I was thinking of dependent actions. My understanding was: > > dependent actions are methods; R2595 says how the method works; > > R2595's implementation happens to defer to the "by announcement" > > method. > > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387 CoE

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> I thought there was another error, but can't seem to find it. > > -Aris 8382 has the wrong title in the full text section. - Falsifian

DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Presidential Elections and Shorter Voting Periods

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 05:22, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following Dragon Corporation Amendment Proposals: > > --- > Presidential Elections > > Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: > A contract-defined office behaves as closely as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 22:15, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:07:51 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:56 PM nch via agora-discussion > > > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you

Re: DIS: [Proto] Promises

2020-05-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > Might be better to make that consent conditional on the promise being > > cashed? I can't think of a plausible situation in which it could > > matter, but here's a contrived situation. Suppose I create a promise > > saying I become a candidate for the election for some office. That > > might

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 05:40, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Here's a proto I tossed together in an evening for a budget system. > This could, in theory, be adopted now and wouldn't particularly do > very much apart from allowing for funding of special projects (though > it would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Moot Attempt

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 00:32, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > Alright, this sure isn't happening then. Well, thanks all for the > cautionary tale on why the moot process doesn't work! I think it's quite do-able. We've got almost a week this time, and I think your proposal got 3 support

Re: DIS: [Proto] Promises

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
I wonder if this rule text could be a contract. Anyone can join, and anyone who's not the creator of a promise can leave. > Promises are a class of assets, tracked by the Notary. Their essential > attributes are their title, text, and creator. A person CAN, by > announcement, > create a

DIS: Re: BUS: Moot Attempt

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 04:49, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > I intend with 4 support to enter CFJ 3831 into moot > Link: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3831 > > -- > From R. Lee I think we need 5 support now. The last judgement on CFJ 3831 was assigned just over 3 weeks

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly Nonsense (Report)

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> Warrigal Wants to Play Blackjack (didn't happen) This did happen, but the games have ended. - Falsifian

Re: DIS: Pledge Bug

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 17:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/16/2020 8:59 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > Breaking a pledge is a crime. A pledge has a time window when after that > > the pledge stops existing. > > > > But a pledge exists that says "I will cause

DIS: Re: BUS: Renaming Sillyness (At AI 3, of course)

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 03:56, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > I create the following two proposals (I would like to say, as I now will > for all proposals in the future, that the optionally specified properties > of the following proposals are non-atomic and the rest of the proposal > should

Re: DIS: a side-game for sets

2020-05-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 02:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Proto: Sets side-game Looks fun. I like that it gives an incentive to transmute cards for players who might otherwise hoard. > If a player, over the course of a single message, transmutes cards > that together

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon Corporation] The Dragon's Lair

2020-05-16 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 03:55, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 8:42 PM James Cook via agora-business > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 21:09, Jason Cobb via agora-business > > wrote: > > > I become

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Full Logical Ruleset - Apr 2020

2020-05-16 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> CFJ 3783 (called 07 Dec 2019): It is not possible to wan an election >after it has ended. Typo: wan - Falsifian

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 19:13, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: > >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >>> > >>> Definition: To r

DIS: [draft] [Registrar] End of May zombie auction

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Since I've gotten this wrong in the past, here's a draft. Let me know if you spot an error in the list of winning bids (or anywhere else, if you feel like checking). The May zombie auction has ended. It began 2020-05-07 at 00:52, and ended 2020-05-14 at 00:52. Agora is the auctioneer. In

Re: DIS: MUD Post Mortem

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:41, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/20 12:48 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > So, the MUD appears to have flopped. The primary reason is that I > > didn't do anything past setting it up, which is totally on me. > > Anything one else

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> // > ID: 8382 > Title: You Tried > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: nch > Co-authors: > > > Enact a rule titled "The Webmastor" with Power=1 and the following text: > > The Webmastor is an office. > > The Webmastor's monthly

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant via agora-official > wrote: > > > > Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber > > switch to that chamber. > > > I CFJ "In a generic Agoran context, to

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> I'm hoping to start gathering notes this week in order to start > publishing weekly Reports. I've started a report for this week in the git repo. If anyone else is doing Reportor work please let me know so we can coordinate. I also renamed the repo from Reporter to Reportor (Github will

Re: DIS: MUD Post Mortem

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 20:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/2020 11:48 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > So, the MUD appears to have flopped. The primary reason is that I > > didn't do anything past setting it up, which is totally on me. > > Anything one else

Re: DIS: crimes and infractions

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 16:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/2020 7:44 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Eh, not so much ripping off as a perennial discussion point - whether > > blots are seen as genuine cheating/taboos to be avoided, versus being > > acceptable penalties accumulated

Re: DIS: [Proto] Defense Against the Dark Arts

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 07:10, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Here's a different version of P.S.S.'s proposal. Eirs didn't work > because you can't take an action that would cause the game to become > ossified, only attempt one. Also, it didn't cover the game ceasing to > exist or

DIS: Re: BUS: [Registrar] May zombie auction status

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 00:52, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 5/12/20 11:10 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 5/12/2020 7:54 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> On 5/12/20 10:42 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > >>>

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 20:49, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. > > Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: > * Pending Tickets > * Extra Votes > * Blot-B-Gone > * Victory Points > > Every player

Re: DIS: [Proto-proto] Webmastor

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 04:50, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > I think we should consider creating an office of the Webmastor, > responsible for maintenance of agoranomic.org. It's a > slightly-exciting hodgepodge of individual officers' sites, and > there's very poor navigation. I think

Re: DIS: coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 20:07, David Nicol via agora-discussion wrote: > (1) judiciary thing: craft some immutables that allow contracts to specify > Agora Nomic Arbitration Services as their venue of dispute resolution, > possibly including stuff like all eligible contracts must be public and >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Wood Gavel award

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 14:54, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > On 4/29/2020 9:33 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Falsifian the 2019 Wooden Gavel > > for eir judgements of CFJs 3726-3727. > > > > Falsafian has had a good year :). Having satisfied

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Cracking rocks

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 05:12, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > I wrote: > > > Good point. I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Employee of the > > Year to Falsifian. > > With support from Jason and R. Lee and no objections, I do so. Thanks everyone! - Falsifian

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 02:33, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/12/20 10:25 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Aris, your bid was preceded by "> " so it looks kind of like quoted > > text from an email you're replying to. It could cast some d

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 22:17, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:57 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > Falsifian wrote: > > > > > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a > > > separate

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a > > separate lot) ordered as follows (highest-bid first): > > > > 1. pikhq > > 2. ATMunn > > 3. Tcbapo > > > > Agora is the Auctioneer, and the Registrar is the Announcer. The > > currency is Coins with a minimum bid of 1. > >

Re: DIS: simple way to give out funds

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 21:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Falsifian wrote: > > So, the idea is that if there's someone good work that should be > > funded, but that shouldn't be a permanently rules-defined office, the > > Agoran public could vote to fund their venture. > > Proto > -

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 15:36, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > How would you guys feel about "decentralizing" the Reportor role? Handling Reportor with a publicly funded contract (e.g. with G.'s proposal) would allow this. I'm hoping to start gathering notes this week in order to start

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-08 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 13:36, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Friday, May 8, 2020 8:29:25 AM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/8/20 9:03 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > > - As written, these proposals would make you the holder of both offices > > > because of the last paragraph of

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-07 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 00:58, nch via agora-business wrote: > On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 7:51:56 PM CDT James Cook via agora-official wrote: > > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a > > separate lot) ordered as follows (highest-bid first): > &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Registrar] New zombie candidates

2020-05-06 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 18:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/2/2020 4:03 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > > For each of the following players, I intend, with notice, to flip eir > > instance of the Master switch to Agora. > > * Tcbapo (last publ

DIS: Re: BUS: Additional Official Patent Titles

2020-04-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> - Left in a Huff, awardable by the Registrar to any player deregistered by > a Writ of FAGE, where the Cantus Cygneus that gave rise to the Writ was due > to a genuine, serious grievance. Yay! A patent title for the Registrar to award! > - {Three, Six, Nine, Twelve} Months Long Service, each

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] Wooden Gavel 2019 shortlist

2020-04-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 20:20, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Reviews all the 2019 cases (including those not in the archives). > > My shortlist (discussion welcome! Especially if there's one not on this > list where I missed its deep importance/later citations) > > > CFJ 3694 by Judge

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] An Award

2020-04-23 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu., Apr. 23, 2020, 08:19 Tanner Swett via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 02:47 Rebecca via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > I object (it wasnt a "real" grievance) > > > > I object for the same reason. > >

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3830 Judged FALSE [Attn: Arbitor]

2020-04-22 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> In order to determine which of these scenarios occurred, we need to look at > R105, "Rule Changes". First, we can eliminate scenario 1. While Rule 105 > doesn't specifically lay out what occurs during amendment, we can assume > that the former text of the rule no longer exists because it is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-04-17 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 19:03, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 19:01, James Cook wrote: > > Walker Agora 0now > > I intend, with notice, to deregister Walker. > > - Falsifian Having given notice, I do hereby deregister Walker. RIP. - Falsifian

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