Re: DIS: report reward fixes

2019-06-15 Thread Charles Walker
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 23:48, D. Margaux wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:39 PM omd wrote: > > Perhaps simplify to something like: > > > > * Publishing an office's weekly or monthly report for the first > > time in a given week or month (resp.): 5 coins. > > > > Though I suppose

DIS: Re: BUS: judicial list

2019-06-15 Thread Charles Walker
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 at 21:32, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > The judicial list (interested judges) I'm working from is: > > D. Margaux, G., Murphy, Trigon, Falsifian, V.J. Rada > > Any changes/additions, or did I miss anyone? > > Thinking of doing away with the "weekend court" distinction... a bit > too

DIS: Re: BUS: Right Action

2019-06-08 Thread Charles Walker
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 04:13, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I pay 4 coins to Walker. Thanks, o. -- Walker

Re: DIS: Plot twist: new proto-judgements of CFJs 3726 and 3727

2019-06-04 Thread Charles Walker
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 03:27, James Cook wrote: > Having established that, here is the hypothetical timeline: > > * D. Margaux publishes correct Astronomor and Clork reports. > * omd Points eir Finger at D. Margaux for publishing inaccurate > information in those reports. > * D. Margaux

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Temporary Deputy-ADoP] Initiation of Election for Prime Minister

2019-06-04 Thread Charles Walker
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 02:09, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [Also: good to see you in the game again Walker, and welcome Jason Cobb!] Thanks G., and good to see you're still around! -- Walker

Re: DIS: Proto-judgements of CFJs 3726 and 3727

2019-06-02 Thread Charles Walker
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 04:59, James Cook wrote: > Comments welcome. Sorry that it's so long. I went back and forth on > 3726 a couple of times. Thanks for an interesting judgement--a good way for me to get back into the game. My instinct was that 3726 is TRUE, along the line of argument that you

Re: DIS: Proto: Old/New Economy Draft

2016-08-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 August 2016 at 02:19, nichdel wrote: > Critique and comments are welcome in general, but I also have a specific > question: > >Right now I have a new office, the Bankor, and Currency Heads. The >point of this system is to spread the control of the economy, and >

DIS: To-do

2016-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
I thought it might be useful to write up an informal to-do list for all of the suggestions that have been made recently: http://hearthgate.net/agorawiki/To-do-list This is incomplete, and I encourage others to add or expand on items. I should also point out that not everything on the list is

Re: DIS: The ideal grind

2016-07-13 Thread Charles Walker
On 13 July 2016 at 21:32, nichdel wrote: > On 07/12/2016 08:02 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> The real question is, what does Agora’s economy produce? I can think of >> “rules proposals” and “reports,” and nichdel’s game prototype thread >> suggests a few more things. Can we

Re: DIS: The ideal grind

2016-07-13 Thread Charles Walker
On 13 July 2016 at 01:53, Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Jul 11, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> I've been thinking about currency/grind games, and was trying to >> enumerate what makes them "successful" in Agora in my experience. >> Here's my start

Re: DIS: The ideal grind

2016-07-11 Thread Charles Walker
On 11 July 2016 at 18:31, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I've been thinking about currency/grind games, and was trying to > enumerate what makes them "successful" in Agora in my experience. > Here's my start on a feature list; thoughts? > > The Ideal Grind > > 1. Allows each player

DIS: Re: BUS: Let's get the ball rolling again

2016-07-11 Thread Charles Walker
On 11 July 2016 at 18:46, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Looks like things are starting to get interesting again. I register as a > player. Hello! I also register.

Re: DIS: Rule Improvements

2016-07-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 July 2016 at 03:22, nichdel wrote: > I think this is a really nice start, and a much needed document. Now we have > a central spot to point new players to! Thanks! > Speaking of links, do we need to change the rules to allow markdown and > links > inside the rules? Do

Re: DIS: Rule Improvements

2016-06-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 June 2016 at 13:33, Charles Walker <charles.w.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > The glossary is a good idea for introducing new players to the rules, > but I'd also suggest a short 'How to Play Agora' guide which gives > someone enough information to start playing immediately. I

Re: DIS: Rule Improvements

2016-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 June 2016 at 13:50, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2016-06-27 at 17:46 -0500, nichdel wrote: >> Now that we've discussed the technical improvements to Agora and plans >> seem to be underway, I thought it'd be worthwhile to talk in more >> detail about possible changes

DIS: Re: BUS: Future of Agora

2016-06-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 19 June 2016 at 23:13, omd wrote: > It’s not that I want it to be over. My interest, presumably like many other > players’, has waxed and waned over the years, and after such a long hiatus I > for one would probably be pretty active if there were a new spurt of > activity.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some one help me in starting to play i want to join

2015-10-13 Thread Charles Walker
On 13 October 2015 at 00:38, omd wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> A blank message with a subject line action hasn't been tried before, >> I think. > >

DIS: Birthday

2015-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
Happy Birthday Agora!

DIS: Blitz Nomic Initial Set

2014-05-11 Thread Charles Walker
For your perusal and comments. Thanks to Steve and G. for their comments on this last year. An Initial Set for playing Blitz Nomic Rule 101, Immutable All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in the form in which they are then in effect. Each person has the right,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Birthday Blitz Nomic

2014-05-08 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 May 2014 23:38, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Are people interested in doing another blitz nomic around the time of Agora's birthday? If so, does anyone have any ideas for how we would construct the initial ruleset? One thought I had would be to take the ruleset we had

Re: DIS: Proto: An officer-driven economy

2013-10-19 Thread Charles Walker
On 20 Oct 2013 00:17, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 16:08 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Alex Smith wrote: I blame the economy for Agora's current slump. No. The entire fault is that we have no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resigning Rulekeepor

2013-09-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Sep 2013 12:15, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2013, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013, woggle wrote: I do not believe I will have time in the next month to fulfill the obligations created by Proposal 7599 for me to create two new formats of the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3393 assigned to G.

2013-09-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 Aug 2013, at 19:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: == CFJ 3393 == I violated Rule 2170 by selecting the nickname wobble in ##nomic.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3393 assigned to G.

2013-09-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 Sep 2013, at 19:34, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, Charles Walker wrote: On 28 Aug 2013, at 19:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: == CFJ 3393

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Returning Officer] The Second Party System

2013-09-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 September 2013 22:15, Joe Stefek jste...@gmail.com wrote: My player name is aperfectring. I would appreciate this being reflected in future reports. Of course. Noted and corrected in draft.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Emergency Distribution of Proposal 7568

2013-08-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 Aug 2013, at 22:53, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Fool wrote: On 01/08/2013 1:34 PM, omd wrote: * I also attempt to distribute this with Chamber of each of Green, Red, and Purple (in that case, the proposal is separately Ordinary). What's that about? Nice colour scheme

DIS: Re: BUS: [not-CotC] pseudo half-docket

2013-08-26 Thread Charles Walker
On 26 Aug 2013 16:23, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Does anyone have any corrections in posture or unassigned cases (i.e. did I miss any) before I deputize to assign? I believe that my posture is correct, and no other CFJs spring to mind. A quick search doesn't reveal any more.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 25 Aug 2013, at 02:01, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I just think we're having the wrong conversation. We should be talking about new gameplay ideas. No. New gameplay ideas are for when

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 25 Aug 2013, at 08:51, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: COE: That is not ambiguous as it has exactly one reasonable interpretation. I transfer Y5 to the Assessor (Oerjan). I'm treating this as having failed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013 21:21, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose other than a busywork hassle. The cost should either be a significant barrier, or no

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Belated Voting Auction Results

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013 21:31, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: CoE: My bid was Y110. CoE: my bid was Y160. CoE: my bid was Y160. Admitted - you did indeed manage to semi-sneakily bid in a different thread. I re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013 21:40, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013, at 21:18, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand. My reports on Okinawa and Parties have never been late and neither of these aspects of the game are overly complicated

Re: DIS: CotC Cleanup

2013-08-21 Thread Charles Walker
On 21 Aug 2013, at 13:05, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be willing to handle every CotC action that has yet to be processed. I should have done it before resigning, but eh. Short of declaring intent to deputize for everything, is there something I can do to clean

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2013-08-20 Thread Charles Walker
On 20 Aug 2013, at 19:43, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Charles Walker wrote: Inquiry CFJ: I violated Rule 2170 by selecting the nickname wobble in ##nomic. The FLR contains the following annotation to Rule 2170: [CFJ 2325 (called 5 January 2009

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3383a assigned to Wooble, woggle and Walker

2013-08-17 Thread Charles Walker
On 17 Aug 2013 19:37, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Brief further arguments: I think GUILTY is wholly inappropriate on 3383, as Fool had no way of knowing eir actions would be considered to violate Rule 101. At most, it would be appropriate to declare his actions illegal and then

DIS: Re: BUS: Sure Why Not

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Aug 2013, at 21:59, Nich Del Evans nich...@gmail.com wrote: I register I submit (to the tree) the following persistent, revocable, promise, 'NRP: Non-Recursive Promise': Text: I act as specified by the casher in the cashing message. Cashing conditions: the casher creates a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure Why Not

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so. (I'd've even suggested it after Sam, who might after all turn out to be a real person who for some reason just happens to share an e-mail address with Walker.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure Why Not

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so. (I'd've even

DIS: Re: BUS: welp

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:16, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I intend, with 3 Elder support, to declare a Gerontocracy. I support and do so. A Gerontocracy cannot be declared until Friday.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: welp

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:23, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:16, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I intend, with 3 Elder support, to declare a Gerontocracy. I support and do so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure Why Not

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:25, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote: On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Charles

DIS: [Ambassador-at-Large] Note on nommit

2013-08-13 Thread Charles Walker
nommit has gone into a convention. Seems like a good time to join. http://www.reddit.com/r/nommit/comments/1k8d78/new_game_convention/

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3365 assigned to OscarMeyr

2013-08-12 Thread Charles Walker
On 12 August 2013 21:44, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3365 = Criminal Case 3365 =

Re: DIS: [Attn: Ambassador] Tangenomic

2013-08-10 Thread Charles Walker
On 10 Aug 2013 02:01, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?690987-Tangenomic-VI Tangency is the off-topic forum on RPG.net (requires registration, is free). It's tried playing nomic in-forum, several times. This is the most recent attempt, is brand new,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 Aug 2013, at 01:26, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 20:24 -0400, Max Schutz wrote: wait we have to re-register again Probably not. Wooble thinks we do, but I'm not sure if anyone else agrees with em. One common problem with nomic is that people disagree as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 10:20, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:26 AM, James Beirne james.m.bei...@gmail.com wrote: CFJ: Fool violated Rule 101 by failing to treat Agora right good forever, by purporting to deregister all other players and subsequently lock them

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement: CFJ 3383

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 11:15, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest the judge file a motion to reconsider (Rule 2318) and assign the correct judgement, as any ambiguity here is not a good idea. I

DIS: A Players' Guide to the Game of Agora, version 2

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
Here's the second draft, with everyone's corrections and suggestions included. ais523 mentioned in irc that e got a degree for an FAQ-like document. Is this up to standard? --- A PLAYERS' GUIDE TO THE GAME OF AGORA --- Table of Contents - I.What is nomic? II. What is Agora?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy. It seems unlikely that Murphy will vote.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7548-7586

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2013 15:13, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy. It seems

Re: DIS: And another thing

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2013 13:23, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: Proto: the vote collector can end a vote early with support of all (other) eligible voters; by announcement if e is the only eligible voter or if there are none. Don't have time to figure out how to write this one out just now. Do feel

Re: DIS: Proto: newbie friendliness

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2013 16:57, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: The Tutor is an office whose holdor is responsible for maintaining the Tutorial. The Tutor CAN edit the Tutorial at any time, and SHOULD do so as necessary to keep it current and accurate. The Tutor also SHALL make sure the current

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7567-7582

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2013 22:08, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: AGAINST because this is a substantive change that shouldn't get free distribution You're in favour of stricter Distributability?

DIS: Proto: Players' Guide

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
I'd really appreciate some feedback on the following, in particular whether the ###-delimited section should be removed or not, but also generally. --- A PLAYERS' GUIDE TO THE GAME OF AGORA --- Table of Contents - I.What is nomic? II. What is Agora? III. The Mailing Lists

DIS: Proto: Helpfulness

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
I'd also appreciate any comments on this, which is obviously related to the Players' Guide post. H. Rulekeepor, Max Schutz, what do you think of the ruleset formats? Helpfulness AI 1 PF 40 Append to Rule 1681 (The Logical Rulesets): The Helpful Logical Ruleset (HLR) is a format of the

Re: DIS: Proto: Helpfulness

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2013 22:35, Max Schutz maxschutz...@gmail.com wrote: it's good btw did you get my critiquing on your beginners guide Yes, thank you.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: posture

2013-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2013 23:55, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Max Schutz maxschutz...@gmail.com wrote: wait why are you cfj'ing this Because that is the customary way of resolving matters of ambiguity. And because it's fun! For some people.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7548-7564

2013-08-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 Aug 2013, at 04:30, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: 7553 3 20 O omd Remove useless vote protection If G. casts a vote on this proposal, ENDORSE G. x my voting limit on it; otherwise, AGAINST x my voting limit on it. G.'s vote was cast by me on this proposal, using the Summer

DIS: Re: BUS: Defense in R. v. Fool, CFJ 3383

2013-08-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 August 2013 19:30, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: The Crown cited the precedent of CFJ 2515 against me, where it is said that bringing Agora into severe disrepute could constitute an R101 violation. Clearly bringing Agora into severe disrepute is not the only way of failing to treat Agora

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2013-08-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 August 2013 20:49, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: An alternate viewpoint: CoE since ratification will probably be fixed in the next week: in the normal universe, this is incorrect for obvious reasons. Can someone

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2013-08-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 August 2013 21:35, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please give me a counterargument to When created, switches have their default values == new switches have their default values? Rule 1586. By the way, the rules

Re: DIS: proto

2013-08-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 August 2013 23:59, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Proto: I Am Wearing A Unicorn Horn (AI=3, PF=100) aka Unnecessary Nebulous Intricacies Complexities Oblige Repeal Now I express my general agreement. Amend Rule 101 (The Rights of Agorans) by removing item i., and renumbering the

Re: DIS: Ambassador's Survey - Your Chance To Win Great Prizes!

2013-08-03 Thread Charles Walker
On 3 Aug 2013, at 15:38, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: - Where is it appropriate to advertise Agora? What kind of fora? Any specific sites? Anywhere where there are lots of people who would enjoy playing Agora. I don't know where such people are. What other corners of the

Re: DIS: Ambassador's Survey - Your Chance To Win Great Prizes!

2013-08-03 Thread Charles Walker
On 3 Aug 2013 17:08, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: This final reduction, after a period of inactivity, was followed by the drastic INCREASE of CFJs in 2007-2008. No sure whether to find cause and effect there at all! Do you think the increase in CFJs reflected an actual increase

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Emergency Distribution of Proposal 7568

2013-08-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 August 2013 11:22, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2013 1:34 PM, omd wrote: * I also attempt to distribute this with Chamber of each of Green, Red, and Purple (in that case, the proposal is separately Ordinary). What's that about? Nice colour scheme though. Thanks, I chose it.

DIS: Ambassador's Survey - Your Chance To Win Great Prizes!

2013-08-02 Thread Charles Walker
The Ambassador-at-Large intends to unofficially deputise for the Envoy to complete that office's duties, which are to advertise Agora in appropriate non-Agoran public fora. But first, I thought I'd gather some opinions and ask questions about related topics. As part of eir continual stakeholder

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Question for Platonists (not about dictators)

2013-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 Aug 2013 18:31, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: Agora pulls a B (AI=3.1, PF=0, disi.) In rule 1551 (Ratification, Power=3.1), replace the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7548-7564

2013-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 Aug 2013 19:35, Max Schutz maxschutz...@gmail.com wrote: I need a little more intel on the red tape humbug and kirby proposal FOR, AGAINST and AGAINST respectively. There's a trick where you convert the proposal text into a folded string which shows you the correct vote. I'll show you

DIS: Re: BUS: Stuff

2013-07-31 Thread Charles Walker
On 31 Jul 2013, at 22:25, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 12:49 -0700, John Smith wrote: Fails because you aren't authorized to act on behalf of Davy 1. Saying 'Person X told

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool

2013-07-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 July 2013 04:05, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: The following proposals have been left behind this week: AI PF C D AUTHOR TITLE 7565 2 25 O 1 Walker Civil service reform 7566 1 20 O 1 Walker because nobody cares In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as

Re: DIS: Gratuitous arguments for logicians

2013-07-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 July 2013 15:43, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Fool wrote: On 30/07/2013 3:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Elliott Hird wrote: This whole thing strikes me as being in incredibly poor form and I disapprove of it. (People who were

DIS: Re: BUS: May as well REALLY settle this

2013-07-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 July 2013 22:30, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: It would, incidentally, be more polite to attempt to achieve a dictatorship in a way other than deregistering everyone. Especially when it would have been just as easy to do it some other, less annoying, way.

Re: DIS: Gratuitous arguments for logicians

2013-07-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 July 2013 23:40, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: If they dispose of their dictatorship quickly via win+trophy, Agora typically tolerates them. (Sometimes there's a race where someone with a power-1 dictatorship tries to get it at a higher

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Sensei] I'm sticking with the weird axes. It's very Zen.

2013-07-28 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 July 2013 15:06, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: The tabular data in this report doesn't line up properly when viewed in a monospaced font. The version the list sent back to me looks fine. What are you seeing?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Sensei] I'm sticking with the weird axes. It's very Zen.

2013-07-28 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 Jul 2013, at 16:00, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Charles Walker wrote: On 28 July 2013 15:06, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: The tabular data in this report doesn't line up properly when viewed in a monospaced font. The version

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Recent Events

2013-07-26 Thread Charles Walker
On Friday, 26 July 2013, Charles Walker wrote: On Friday, 26 July 2013, Eric Stucky wrote: I register. [ -Turiski ] Welcome! Back!

DIS: Re: BUS: Recent Events

2013-07-26 Thread Charles Walker
On Friday, 26 July 2013, Eric Stucky wrote: I register. [ -Turiski ] Welcome!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 21:20, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Moreover, most officers are late occasionally and it is definitely not in the interests of the game to drive them away every time they miss a report

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 08:39, James Beirne james.m.bei...@gmail.com wrote: What follows is not really a direct reply but is an explanation, of sorts, for my feelings towards the sentence, particularly as to why I feel a time out is appropriate. The panel (and future judges) should consider that the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 18:11, James Beirne james.m.bei...@gmail.com wrote: The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant recently made emself inactive, rendering TIME OUT most likely ineffectual. E was not inactive at the time of the original sentencing, though. Quite, but there's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 20:40, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:38 AM, James Beirne james.m.bei...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, it seems to me that failure to publish a report should not be considered a minor infraction as (for me, at least), it serves as an important tool

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7530-7547

2013-07-23 Thread Charles Walker
On 22 Jul 2013 21:39, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: [18 proposals] So what are we really trying to achieve in limiting proposals to MI? Is it largely just a cash sink, or are we really trying to delay a potentially large number

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2013-07-20 Thread Charles Walker
On 20 Jul 2013 19:10, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Infraction cases (AI=2, PF=25) FOR, but we should review the Classes of current crimes and upgrade a few SHALLs/SHALL NOTs to Crimes. If no one does so next week I'll look into it. Also, do we really need Classes of Crime? Could just

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Voting auctions

2013-07-16 Thread Charles Walker
On 15 Jul 2013 22:29, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Voting auctions (AI=2, PF=Y50) Weird: was just about to propose a similar thing, but the expiration date mechanism is more interesting than what I had in mind. FOR.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: The Wisconsin Line-Item Veto

2013-07-16 Thread Charles Walker
omd wrote: [Update 2: Nerfs to 45 days and brings back the Cabinet Secretary with a different job. The wisdom of making the Cabinet Secretary a Minister in the first place will have to be left to those better versed in eighties-era TV shows.] Admitted, Cabinet Secretary should really be a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3373, 3374 assigned to scshunt

2013-07-16 Thread Charles Walker
John Smith wrote: If I were a player, I'd call for reconsideration. But since I'm not, could someone else please do so? You should register.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Ambassador-at-Large] Foreign Relations

2013-07-15 Thread Charles Walker
On 13 Jul 2013 05:02, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Dear Ambassador-at-Large Charles Walker, and the other players of Agora Nomic: I am writing to ask Agora's opinion regarding trade with the nomic Entreco. We are currently discussing ways of allowing the players of Entreco to trade

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: The Wisconsin Line-Item Veto

2013-07-15 Thread Charles Walker
On 15 Jul 2013 04:07, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:43 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: The Wisconsin Line-Item Veto (AI=2) Proposal: The Wisconsin Line-Item Veto (AI=2) Very interesting, but AGAINST so long as it repeals Sir Humphrey. I'd like to see

Re: DIS: Would I be an Elder if I registered?

2013-07-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 9 Jul 2013 10:44, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: I meant buggy requirement as a hypothetical in my quote (as in, satisfies the requirement if it's bugged). FWIW, I meant omd's interpretation when I wrote the rule originally. Not that that

Re: DIS: scshunt, walker, feel free...

2013-07-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 8 Jul 2013, at 20:33, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I'm not going to get around to proposing infractions or ribbon changes anytime soon, if interested parties want to move ahead with that. -g. Will be looking at doing these in a few weeks. -- Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Personnel File Time Sheet

2013-07-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 9 Jul 2013, at 22:08, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 Jul 2013, at 18:12, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: All office-holders are currently Independent. I CoE

Re: DIS: (no subject)

2013-07-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 8 Jul 2013 01:15, Lindar Greenwood lindartheb...@gmail.com wrote: I register. I support Fool's intent to found the Serious party, and I do so. Welcome! NttPF (Not to the Public Forum): which is agora-business. All in-game actions must be taken there. Also, your attempt to do so fails

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Surprise Distribution of Proposals 7497, 7503-7515

2013-07-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 Jul 2013, at 21:26, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: 7506 1 30 O Walker ais523's Rule FOR, I guess; a little simplistic, but who am I to vote down a proposal named after me? It's simplistic on its own, but the earning of Yaks and the tradeoff between spending Yaks on other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Gerontocracy Fix

2013-07-04 Thread Charles Walker
On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:01, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: [ This includes the fix to CAN but SHALL NOT, see paragraph 3 of the first Rule. ] This is about the only proposal I actually like. Do you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Gerontocracy Fix

2013-07-04 Thread Charles Walker
On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:58, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:01, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Gerontocracy Fix

2013-07-04 Thread Charles Walker
On 4 Jul 2013, at 16:42, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Amend Rule 2398 (Yaks) by appending: Yak Masters CAN award and destroy Yaks by announcement, but doing so except as otherwise made POSSIBLE by the Rules, or as follows, is the Class-7 Crime of Administrative Error: After a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Gerontocracy Fix

2013-07-04 Thread Charles Walker
On 4 Jul 2013, at 16:42, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Contract requirements aren't implicit, they're just indirect. How about SHALL NOT, except where otherwise explicitly permitted? And stick in players MAY destroy their own

DIS: Nomic Art

2013-07-04 Thread Charles Walker
To celebrate Walt Whitman Week, Northwestern MFA candidate Caroline Carlsmith has installed a piece in University Library titled I Am Now With You: Playing Nomic With Walt Whitman 1855-2012. Nomic, created by Northwestern alum and philosopher Peter Suber as a representation of of Democratic

DIS: While I'm thinking about Yak awards

2013-07-04 Thread Charles Walker
Proto: At the start of each month, each player who a) was nothing other than standing and sitting b) missed no deadlines for judging judicial cases or opining on appeal cases, and c) was the prior judge of no cases which were appealed with prejudice in the previous month, earns 100 Yaks. This

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