Re: DIS: [Draft] Golems v1.1

2023-04-17 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/17/23 18:30, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > New version. Fixed most things people mentioned in response to the > previous version, plus changed a bit how the thing works. > > Now, instead of Golems activating by themselves and acting on behalf of > people, we have players activating the

DIS: [proposal] Stone fixes

2022-11-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
I submit the following proposal: Title: Stone fixes Author: Jason Coauthors: nix Adoption index: 2.0 { # Convergence of P8868 If Rule 2642 is not titled "Gathering Stones", retitle to "Gathering Stones". If Rule 2642 does not have the following text, amend it to read, in whole: { A

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8866-8868

2022-11-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 11/13/22 18:15, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows (and have updated the spreadsheet): > >> 8866* Jason, Aspen3.0 Restricted confederation > PRESENT (what about groups that were already grouped before, but then > the members explicitly decide/declare

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8863-8865

2022-11-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 11/13/22 00:37, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > VOTING STRENGTHS > > > Strength is 3 unless otherwise noted. > ^: player has voting strength 6 Correction: the Dream of Power should give 2 voting strength, rather than 3. This doesn't change any outcomes and is not

Re: DIS: Website Refresh

2022-11-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/30/22 19:22, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > I've been working on a redesign of the website in my free time. Here it > is: https://nixnull.github.io/agoranomic.github.io/index.html' Oh whoops I never responded to this. Above all, thank you for doing this! > This set up switches away

DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Experiment 00057 - Rule Selection

2022-10-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/23/22 18:50, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > EXPERIMENT 00056 RULE SELECTION This should be 00057, my bad. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] October Stone Auction Resolution

2022-10-16 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/16/22 23:00, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > 2022-09-04 21:10:47 Jason Sabotage 1 > 2022-09-04 21:10:47 Jason Wealth1 Whoops, these shouldn't have been included. I don't think this makes anything fail. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Mad

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder for Proposal 8859

2022-10-16 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/16/22 16:32, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > [I don't know how this slipped past me, I'm sorry. This is late but > still required, and the decision has met quorum now.] > > I hereby issue a humiliating public reminder to the following slackers > who have not voted on the referendum on

DIS: Discussion fora regulation

2022-10-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
I'm sorry to bring this up again, but I don't think this was sufficiently addressed after recent events. Rule 478 still attempts to grant unlimited freedom of speech rights to players over all fora. This is obviously broken for foreign fora, but it's unclear what (if anything) should be done for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3992 assigned to Secretsnail9

2022-09-13 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/12/22 23:18, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:14 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion >> wrote: >> >> On 9/12/22 22:31, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: >>>> On Sep 12, 2022

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3992 assigned to Secretsnail9

2022-09-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/12/22 22:31, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sep 12, 2022, at 9:12 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 9/12/22 20:31, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >>> There's also the clause in Rule 2630 "The Administrative State": &q

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3992 assigned to Secretsnail9

2022-09-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/12/22 20:31, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > There's also the clause in Rule 2630 "The Administrative State": "An > officer SHALL NOT violate eir office's administrative regulations in the > discharge of eir office." It's not too relevant to this case, but there may > be an issue

Re: DIS: (Proto) Values

2022-09-11 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/10/22 11:25, Sarah S. via agora-discussion wrote: > Create the following power 0.1 rule entitled "Agora's values". > edits/additions entirely welcome, i'm not the best writer at all. > > {{Nothing in this rule creates a legal obligation. > > Since Agora's founding over 30 years ago, Agorans

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8851-8856

2022-09-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/3/22 03:21, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > I vote FOR all. (They had been warned for this behavior previously, > multiple times. When we hear an apology we can change our minds then, but I > don't want them to be able to play again before we are ALL ready. ) > > On Fri, Sep 2,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor)

2022-08-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/30/22 12:41, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > (I'm not sure where discussions are, but I think something needs to be done > right now. A proposal will take some time to pass anyways, but at least it > will be something to look towards as this unravels. > > If you are neutral in

Re: DIS: A proto

2022-08-29 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/29/22 13:23, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > We now have a player who is directly responsible for three FAGEs. I > believe that it's time we discuss a mechanism similar to the one below. Correction on this: directly responsible for one successful FAGE and one attempte

DIS: A proto

2022-08-29 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
We now have a player who is directly responsible for three FAGEs. I believe that it's time we discuss a mechanism similar to the one below. Title: Unfortunately Author: Jason Coauthors: Adoption index: 3.0 { Amend Rule 869 by appending the following paragraph: { Banned is a secured negative

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Paranoia

2022-08-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/21/22 18:10, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Jason > >> I respond to each petition that I am required to respond to as follows: >> "No. For more information please reread this response.". > Proto: Don't. No. -- Jason Cobb Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3986 assigned to Murphy

2022-08-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/16/22 12:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 8/16/22 10:20, Rose Strong via agora-business wrote: >> I CFJ: The Militia Court created by Madrid is a valid alternative to the >> current CFJ system. > > The above is CFJ 3985. > > I assign CFJ 3985 to Murphy. > The above is actually

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Spivak Standardization Act

2022-08-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/15/22 22:39, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > Nitpicks: > >> The Spivak pronouns (e/em/eir) are hereby recognized as the standard >> third-person singular personal pronouns in Agora. In official contexts, >> players SHOULD use them when referring to non-specific persons or, in >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8822-8828

2022-08-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 8:18 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote FOR on all proposals up for voting this period. (I have not updated > the spreadsheet, sorry.) > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 3:59 PM Edward > Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8815-8821

2022-07-24 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/24/22 20:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 12:56 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official > wrote: >> 8821~ nix, Jason, secretsnail 3.0 More Intuitive Rule Changes > Opinion of the rulekeepor sought: > > In all previous history, the phrase: > > "Retitle rule

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette - 22 Jul 2022

2022-07-24 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/24/22 18:49, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Pseudo-coe: I think this is missing the Cfj called by snail with the > subject line [Proposal?]. If so and it’s not taken I favor that one. -G. > Acknowledged and assigned, thank you. -- Jason Cobb Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor,

Re: DIS: Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-16 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/16/22 03:09, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >>> It discusses shorthand which I almost used exactly and discusses what the >>> shorthand could mean, >> No it doesn't. It

Re: DIS: Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/15/22 22:02, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > But this is still only one issue you've addressed: you can still totally > create something that already exists, you just make it exist again, > duplicating it. Arbitrarily restricting creation to things that don't exist > is atextual

DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Finger Pointing on Distribution of Proposals 8717-8811

2022-07-11 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/11/22 19:24, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:26 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 4:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < >> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> On 7/10/22

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Do we need all 3?

2022-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/22 19:04, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 18:56 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 7/5/22 13:59, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >>> Repeal Rule 2618 (Promises). >>> >>> Repeal Rule 1742 (Contra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3971 assigned to Secretsnail9

2022-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/8/22 00:03, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 10:37 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 7/7/22 19:58, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: >>> As it has no mention

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3971 assigned to Secretsnail9

2022-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/22 19:58, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > As it has no mentions of the rules, I didn't think it was necessary to > include an interpretation where a tabled action must be rules-defined as an > action able to be performed with one of those methods. But looking at Rule > 2125

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Do we need all 3?

2022-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/5/22 13:59, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I don't think we do. Let's discuss some options. > > I submit the following proposal: > > { > Title: Option A > Adoption index: 2.2 > Author: secretsnail > Co-authors: > > Repeal Rule 2618 (Promises). > > } > > I submit the following

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3971 assigned to Secretsnail9

2022-07-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/7/22 01:03, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > That is, fulfilling these requirements in order to take the action by > announcement IS performing the action "with support", making it a tabled > action. The same applies to all tabled action methods. > So what's left to answer is if

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Normalize ribbons

2022-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/22 18:09, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing "qualifies for" with "earns" in > the methods of obtaining these types of Ribbon: Green (G), Platinum (P), > Lime (L), Transparent (T). Qualification is for continuous conditions while earns is for

DIS: Re: BUS: Magical Substrate

2022-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/22 14:11, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > (I want a complex subgame, for that, I think we need > to start with setting some sort of substrate for it. > I generally endorse further modification of the following.) > > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Rock Paper

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Proposal] An exercise in patience

2022-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/2/22 00:04, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > When a stone is cascaded, the Rule defining that stone applies the effects in > that stone's scroll. This doesn't work due to power. -- Jason Cobb Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: BUS: More cleaning

2022-06-22 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 9:39 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I intend to clean, each without objection, each of the following: > correct the spelling of 'statment' in Rule 2471 "No Faking" to 'statement' > correct the spelling of 'niether' in Rule 2661

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8696-8699

2022-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/22 17:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/21/2022 10:34 AM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 08:19 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >>> I don't agree with this interpretation. There are quite a few examples of >>> using "wrong"

DIS: Re: BUS: Typo in R2656

2022-06-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/15/22 03:13, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Fix typo in Points > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st > Co-author(s): > Amend the rule "Points" by changing the sentence > "If a least one player wins the game via such an > announcement,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) CFJ 3967 judgement

2022-06-13 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/13/22 20:55, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > The Winds Died Down recently, beginning the procedure described in R2658. > As found in CFJ 3966, the process was begun even if some of the steps > couldn't be completed. As far as I can tell, nothing blocked the repeals > in (1) from

DIS: Re: BUS: Ministry Focus 2.0

2022-06-13 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/13/22 16:51, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Ministry of Vagabonds > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st > Co-author(s): nix, Madrid, secretsnail9, Jason As written, this proposal does nothing or something close to it. It would need to

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor) Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8682

2022-06-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/6/22 19:39, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, 2022-06-05 at 18:36 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: >> ID Author(s) AITitle >> --- > I vote as follows: >> 8682& secretsnail

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3964 assigned to G.

2022-06-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/31/22 21:50, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > These definitions lead to at least three different reasonable possibilities > I can see: > > The initiator of the device is the one who started it, or proposed it. (The > "special rites" of proposing the device fit nicely here.) > > The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3964 assigned to G.

2022-05-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/30/22 21:02, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > So it's more unclear, and potentially ambiguous, which would just make > deactivation fail. Also, that CFJ didn't address the contradiction of being > able to activate the device while it's already on. The only communication standard

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3964 assigned to G.

2022-05-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/30/22 17:23, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > After the first device assignment, "the Device changes, following which > each active player gains 1 card of each type and eir grant (if any)". What > does it mean for the device to change? We actually have a definition for a > device

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-05-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/1/22 23:09, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > Any suggestions? I'm partial to changing "As this title..." to "As this > Device...", but maybe you have a better idea. FOR -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Belated Award Season @Arbitor @ADoP @Promotor @Arbitor

2022-04-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/30/22 10:34, nix via agora-official wrote: > We missed award season, which was this month. As Herald, I take > responsibility. However, I believe I have a solution. Through > regulations, I can grant untimed authorization to the officers to award > the titles. I request these officers

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8667-8668

2022-04-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/18/22 11:57, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > I vote FOR in both referenda. Not to the public forum. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: (indictment intent on @jaun for support/objections) resolving fingers for the forbidden

2022-04-11 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/11/22 13:49, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 4/11/2022 10:40 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> No, it's not reasonable to expect new players to read through decades of >> judgements. However, that doesn't eliminate the fact that the precedent >> exists. Generally

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Hopefully you disagree

2022-04-11 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/11/22 08:46, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > It should be clear enough. It's in a thread concerning a single proposal. > Also, it directly answers a comment regarding that proposal. Also, I only > have one proposal up. I'd argue it's unambiguous. > > On April 10, 2022 11:41:31 PM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] No finger pointing on behalf

2022-04-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/8/22 14:05, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 13:54 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal: >> >> Title: No finger pointing on behalf > FWIW, I'd prefer to expand the set of actions-on-behalf rather than >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] No finger pointing on behalf

2022-04-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/8/22 14:21, Madrid via agora-discussion wrote: > Ive been looking into mailbots for officerless game tracking. > > If Contracts/Acting on Behalf gets repealed I'm up for using the same tech > for bots that can replace it. > > Actually, they could be useful too for secret "contracts",

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-04-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/5/22 18:10, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 18:07 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 4/5/22 18:03, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >>> On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 00:00 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agor

DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-04-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/5/22 18:03, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 00:00 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- > business wrote: >> This is an automated selection of a random rule from Agora's ruleset, >> as part of the Mad Engineer's weekly duties. >> Randomizing from 145 rules. > This

DIS: Re: BUS: Purchasing promises

2022-04-04 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/4/22 10:30, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > I create six copies of the following promise, named "Promise me", and > transfer them to the Library: > {{{ > Cashing condition: In the message in which e cashes this promise, the > bearer transfers me a promise with text "For each tabled intent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Weekly Snailpoint update

2022-04-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/3/22 21:21, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2022-04-03 20:10, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> CoE: either none of these Snailpoints exist, or they are all owned by >> the Lost and Found Department. Any purported creation of Snailpoints >> would result in their ownership being

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: [Ministor] Foci

2022-04-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/3/22 11:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > On 4/3/2022 8:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Ministor's Monthly Report for 03 April 2022 >> >> Focus Switches (self-ratifies) >> >> Compliance (3): >>Madrid, ais523,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-03-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/27/22 20:07, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 2022-03-28 at 02:05 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- > business wrote: >> The dice roll was: 124 >> This is R2629, Victory Auctions. > Another duplicate. For reference, again: > {{{ >The Treasuror CAN conduct an auction (a

DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 399

2022-03-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/27/22 17:39, Trigon via agora-official wrote: >Contract(00) cn wcjclcvcwsbgpdvt > == == > ATMStash [0] 17538 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > CB Locker [1]

DIS: [proto] Prohibited wins

2022-03-24 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
Drafted this on discord, there was some disagreement about whether this was a good idea at all, but I think this wording fixes the identified problems: Amend Rule 2449 by appending the following paragraphs: { The above notwithstanding, persons do not win the game if conduct in violation of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Obstructive Pooling] Deposit

2022-03-24 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/24/22 17:37, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 17:28 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I transfer all of my win cards and winsomes to ais523 for the sole >> purpose of depositing them into Obstructive Pooling. > Just to confirm, is this 1 Win Card and 3

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-03-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/21/22 20:15, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 01:12 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- > business wrote: >> Assignment of dice rolls to rules: >> 106:R2579; 107:R2581; 108:R2582; 109:R2585; 110:R2603; 111:R2605; > [I added a special case in the randomization

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] The Hexeract

2022-03-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/23/22 12:38, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Title: The Hexeract > AI: 1.0 > Author: secretsnail > Coauthors: > > Create a rule with title "Grids" and the following text: > { > > A grid has D dimensions, where D is a positive integer, and where

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 16 Mar 2022

2022-03-16 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/16/22 18:09, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: > El 16/03/2022 a las 22:05, Jason Cobb via agora-official escribió: >> Hot Potato gain 8 coins if transferred to a player who has not >> owned the stone since the last time Agora owned it. >> Escape risk:

DIS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 13 Mar 2022

2022-03-13 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/13/22 16:13, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > Power Jason2021-10-04 Correction: the Power Stone was wielded by Jason on 2022-03-08. This will be reflected in future reports. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DoV?] Apathy resolution

2022-03-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/6/22 20:28, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 7:13 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> If I send an email to your email address, but all of your devices are >> offline for the 4 da

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DoV?] Apathy resolution

2022-03-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/6/22 20:10, Ned Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > In the usual case I would have been emailed or messaged in some way which > means I would be able to see the message. I was offline the whole time this > message was unedited. It can't be to me if it never reached me at any point. If I

DIS: [proto] Foreign relations

2022-03-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
This is a proto to re-establish foreign relations. PodNomic (a podcast about nomics that is also a nomic) had a system where other nomics could appoint correspondents who could submit news items, which would be included in the podcast (this was recently repealed but would probably be re-enacted if

Re: DIS: [proto] TIME Act

2022-03-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/1/22 00:41, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: >>> I would strongly suggest that this only restrict rule changes in the >>> minimal modification, and not any later changes following logically from >>> it. Otherwise the discrepancies between the intuitive interpretation of >>>

Re: DIS: [proto] TIME Act

2022-02-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/28/22 22:11, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> I present the following draft to clean up the ratification rule. >> >> The only intended semantic change is securing all retroactive >>

DIS: [proto] TIME Act

2022-02-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
I present the following draft to clean up the ratification rule. The only intended semantic change is securing all retroactive modification, everything else is just mean to make the existing text much more clear. Title: Temporal Incursion Modification and Exclusion Act Author: Jason Coauthors:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-02-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/20/22 20:49, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 02:47 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- > business wrote: >> The dice roll was: 41 >> This is R2137, The Assessor. > For reference: > {{{ > The Assessor is an office; its holder is responsible for >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] RTRW Recording

2022-02-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/8/22 15:28, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2/8/2022 15:16, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: >> Well it looks like we're going with recording people reading the ruleset. >> >> Reading will be done using the Short Logical Ruleset published on 8 Feb >> 2022, which has 146 rules. >>

Re: DIS: [proto] Deputisation rewrite

2022-02-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/2/22 14:18, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, 2022-02-02 at 14:07 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> Title: Deputisation rwrite > I'd prefer to go down a bit of a different path – I agree with barring > deputisation for very old duties, but think t

DIS: [proto] Deputisation rewrite

2022-02-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
Title: Deputisation rwrite Author: Jason Coauthors: G. Adoption index: 3.0 { Amend Rule 2160 ("Deputisation") by replacing the sole list with the following: { 1. the rules require the holder of that office, by virtue of holding that office, to perform the action (this requirement is fulfilled

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] quorum fix

2022-02-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/1/22 16:38, Rose Strong via agora-discussion wrote: > Unless I am completely misunderstanding the CFJ 3938 ruling a quorum can > never be 1. > That's under the current rules, due to the clause that would be changed here. There's nothing inherently saying quorum can't be 1, that's just what

Re: Fwd: DIS: Re: OFF: Deputy-[Arbitor] 3942 assigned to G. (Plus stuff)

2022-01-31 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/31/22 17:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > The R2175/9 methods noted above cause something to "cease being a cfj". > But it's not clear that this "destroys" it as an "entity". It could > easily be called a "former cfj" and continue to exist. Furthermore, even > if a cfj is

DIS: [Rulekeepor] RTRW Festivities

2022-01-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
Read the Ruleset Week approaches once more. On Discord, there was some discussion of making a recording of the SLR being read, in the spirit of PodNomic. I'm happy to coordinate this if there's the will to do it. If that's not preferred, I'm don't have any better ideas than running a contest.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3938 motion to reconsider filed (@Jason)

2022-01-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/26/22 17:02, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On 1/26/2022 1:47 PM, Rose Strong via agora-business wrote: >> I support. > With 2 support, I group-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 3938. > > Gratuitous arguments: > > CFJs on the ratification of playerhood without consent: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Auction Ratification

2022-01-24 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/24/22 22:28, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> I create the following proposal, then pay a fee of one pendant to cause >> it to become pending. >> >> Title: Auction Self-Ratification >> Adoption index: 3.0 >> Author:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@treasuror, @promotor) [proposal] basic scoring

2022-01-23 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/23/22 16:53, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 2022-01-23 at 13:49 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >> * Having submitted an unconditional ballot AGAINST a referendum to >> adopt a sponsored proposal, provided that the ballot is valid at >> the

DIS: Re: OFF: [deputy-Arbitor] CFJ 3938 assigned to Jason (also @referee)

2022-01-22 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/21/22 11:38, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > I temporarily deputise for the Arbitor to recuse Madrid from CFJ 3938. > > I point a finger at Madrid for failing to judge this cfj in a timely > fashion, as per R591. I wouldn't do this normally, but e favored it so it > seems like

DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intents to Invent

2022-01-16 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 2:12 PM ais523 via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > The Device is on. > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule > "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the > device is off:" list: > {{{ >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2022-01-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/5/22 12:31, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > That's definitely interesting on its own (irrespective of the device) I'd > forgotten all entities have voting strength though can't cast ballots. > Furthermore, it's not clear to me (at all) that R683 precludes > lower-powered rules from

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DoV] Dawn of a New Day

2022-01-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/2/22 21:52, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: > El 03/01/2022 a las 02:10, Aspen via agora-business escribió: >> Last year, there were a few days that held great personal significance >> for me. As of the 13th of September, I had been a player for five >> years. Just over a month later, on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2021-12-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/28/21 05:22, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 2021-12-28 at 11:21 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- > business wrote: >> The dice roll was: 27 >> This is R1681, The Logical Rulesets. > For reference: > {{{ > The Short Logical Ruleset (SLR) is a format of the ruleset.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2021-12-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/20/21 15:50, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran decision by publishing a > notice satisfying the following conditions: > > 1. The ballot is submitted during the voting period for the > decision. > > 2.

Re: DIS: Proto: PodNomic Correspondent

2021-12-17 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/17/21 08:30, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > Create a power-1 rule, titled “Foreign Bureaux”, with the following text: { > PodNomic Correspondent is an office. > > For the purposes of PodNomic, Agora Nomic’s PodNomic Corespondent is the > holder of the office PodNomic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2021-12-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/7/21 21:53, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 09:18:28PM +, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: >> El 06/12/2021 a las 18:51, ais523 via agora-discussion escribió: >>> On Mon, 2021-12-06 at 19:48 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- >>> business wrote:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8633

2021-11-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 11/21/21 00:00, Aspen via agora-business wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 8:13 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 11/10/21 14:36, Aspen via agora-official wrote: >>> CONTAINS A REVISED PROMOTOR'S REPORT, EFFECTIVE AS OF RIGHT NOW. >>> >>> I hereby

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 3 Nov 2021

2021-11-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 11/3/21 19:45, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > >> THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT) >> Summary of stone functions: > This summary seems to miss the new stones. > > Greetings, > Ørjan. It does sorry.

DIS: Zulip Testing

2021-11-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
I've set up a self-hosted zulip server for testing. I've never run or used zulip before, so I can't guarantee that it will be stable and I can't guarantee that I won't have to wipe the whole thing (though I'll try hard not to, now that there's a little bit of actual stuff on it). There is, of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

2021-10-31 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/31/21 20:59, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 17:47 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> The self-destruct timer is hard to resist: >>>The time window of a device is W days, where W is the value >>>explicitly stated by the device, or 60 if the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: ALT: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8607-8629

2021-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/18/21 12:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 10/18/2021 9:11 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 10/18/21 06:18, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >> We fixed the case where a proposal might be applied twice: >> >>> 4. (if the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: ALT: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8607-8629

2021-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/18/21 06:18, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, 2021-10-17 at 21:43 -0400, Jason Cobb wrote (to > m...@agoranomic.groups.io): >> RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8607-8629 >> = > CoE: You did this already, to agora-official. > > (I don't think there's anything

DIS: Test

2021-10-17 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
This message contains no game actions. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: [proto] Laudability

2021-10-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/7/21 22:29, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2021, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Here's a proto to not erase player's festivity when they win by ribbons: >> >> Amend Rule 2438 by appending the following to the paragraph begi

DIS: [proto] Laudability

2021-10-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
Here's a proto to not erase player's festivity when they win by ribbons: Amend Rule 2438 by appending the following to the paragraph beginning "For each type of Ribbon": { Laudability is a person switch with non-negative integer possible values, defaulting to 0, tracked by the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] October Collection Notice

2021-10-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/6/21 19:27, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > Power G.40% EEscapes Whoops, this is Jason's stone. I don't think this affects anything. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8607-8629

2021-10-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/5/21 22:22, Shy Owl via agora-discussion wrote: >> Yeah, you definitely shouldn't blot yourself. >> -- >> R. Lee > I'm pleased that it's possible though. > > Seems that that sentence wasn't intended to be > used for self-blotting, but I like that I can. > > Seems appropriate somehow. > > --

Re: DIS: Mis-Citation for CFJ in FLR

2021-10-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/5/21 05:48, Shy Owl via agora-discussion wrote: > Hi I believe I have found a citation error in the current FLR. > > In the annotations for Rule 1742/23, CFJ 3869 is listed as: > > { > > CFJ 3869 (called 18 Jul 2020): A contract cannot automatically create > another contract, because the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8607-8629

2021-10-04 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/4/21 14:25, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >> 8612& Jason, G., Ørjan1.0 Tournament Conclusion Fixes v2 > AGAINST. It's a reasonable limit, and this tournament was abandoned as > evidenced by the complete lack of finale activity - no win is deserved > here (if anyone had

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