DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Narrowing Margins, Forgiveness

2021-09-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion

On Wed, 15 Sep 2021, nix via agora-business wrote:


I submit and pay one pendant to pend the following proposal:

[snip]

Amend R2621, VP Wins, to read in full:

  The Victory Threshold is 20-5x, where x is the number of months
  since the last time someone Took Over The Economy. If it would
  be less, the Victory Threshold is instead 1.

  If a player has at least the Victory Threshold more Victory
  Points than any other player, e CAN Take Over the Economy by
  announcement, provided no person has won the game by doing so in
  the past 30 days.

  When a player takes over the economy, e wins the game. Four days
  after such a win occurs, all Cards and all Products are
  destroyed. Then, each active player gains 1 card of each type
  and eir grant (if any).


This needs to be resolved before Trigon's recent proto, if both pass.

(Which would have been unnecessary if it was written as replacing only 
the paragraph it affects.)


Greetings,
Ørjan.


DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Narrowing Margins, Forgiveness

2021-09-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 9/15/2021 11:05 AM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> {
> 
> Agora formally forgives all fugitives listed on the most recent scroll
> of Agora.
> 
> }

[Minor technical thing:  Fugitives are now a term of art in R2555.
Shelvacu was the only one, now expunged.  So there are *no* fugitives
listed on the most recent scroll of agora, if taking a strict reading of
the rules.  The accurate phrase is something like "all persons listed *as*
fugitives on the most recent..."  Maybe with this being a wholly advisory
vote to the Herald it doesn't matter one bit, just caught my eye?]

Some overall history/explanation, previously shared on discord:

When we last had blots, years ago, and blots were repealed, there were
quite a few people with 1 Blot.  A few players said "hey they shouldn't
get away scot-free, they should apologize or something if they ever come
back".  The Herald was the blot-tracker of the time, so e (by which I mean
I) made that list.  It never had any official status.

In the first few years after that, a couple people on the list came back,
said sorry, and were removed from the list.  At least one person in my
memory (don't remember who tho) came back, saw eir name, and said "haha
that's great" and didn't apologize on purpose, to stay on the list.

But this fell out of use and is way out of date.  I think a couple heralds
have since added a some names when people deregistered while under some
kind of punishment, but it was haphazard.  So even if the principle was
sound, it was unevenly applied?

-G.