Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Spivak Standardization Act

2022-08-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/15/22 22:39, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote:
> Nitpicks:
>
>> The Spivak pronouns (e/em/eir) are hereby recognized as the standard
>> third-person singular personal pronouns in Agora. In official contexts,
>> players SHOULD use them when referring to non-specific persons or, in
>> the absence of a clear statement of another preference, when referring
>> to a specific other person. The use of singular they when referring to
>> persons is DISCOURAGED in official contexts, except upon specific
>> request by that person.
> Singling out the singular they here feels a little weird - maybe just “the 
> use of other pronouns”?


Good point.


>
>> A player CAN, with 2 support, cause this rule to amend a specified other
>> rule of power less than 4, specifying the new text of the rule, such
>> that the new text rewords and rephrases the existing text in order to
>> use Spivak pronouns in place of singular they, provided that such
>> amendment would not result in the meaning or interpretation of that rule
>> changing in any way.
>
> I can’t imagine this is scammable, but I’d nevertheless prefer it to be 
> consent or objections instead of support - the potential for a 3-person cabal 
> to make unilateral rule changes is scary. 
>
> Gaelan


That's fair, and actually has the benefit of preventing accidental
violations of the four days rule.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason



DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Spivak Standardization Act

2022-08-15 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Nitpicks:

> The Spivak pronouns (e/em/eir) are hereby recognized as the standard
> third-person singular personal pronouns in Agora. In official contexts,
> players SHOULD use them when referring to non-specific persons or, in
> the absence of a clear statement of another preference, when referring
> to a specific other person. The use of singular they when referring to
> persons is DISCOURAGED in official contexts, except upon specific
> request by that person.

Singling out the singular they here feels a little weird - maybe just “the use 
of other pronouns”?

> A player CAN, with 2 support, cause this rule to amend a specified other
> rule of power less than 4, specifying the new text of the rule, such
> that the new text rewords and rephrases the existing text in order to
> use Spivak pronouns in place of singular they, provided that such
> amendment would not result in the meaning or interpretation of that rule
> changing in any way.


I can’t imagine this is scammable, but I’d nevertheless prefer it to be consent 
or objections instead of support - the potential for a 3-person cabal to make 
unilateral rule changes is scary. 

Gaelan