Re: DIS: Re: BUS: With that dealt with,

2019-01-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



On 1/29/2019 7:52 AM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:

On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 07:49 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:

Several I think, but the results are mixed.  ("[X] is/is not a
player" is the most common phrase in CFJ statements after all).


How does it compare to "This is a CFJ"?

(Admittedly, the numbers on that one are somewhat deflated by the fact
that many of them turned out not to be.)


No contest.  I get 14 for "is/is not a CFJ" and something over 60 for the
playerhood question (half of those are for non-natural players in the
partnership era, but even with natural persons only, playerhood wins).

Because many people like to try to loophole registration and call a CFJ as
their first "move" (by way of introduction, I guess?) over time we made the
standard pretty weak so most  attempts work.  Used to be much stricter, when
I first joined, the standard was that the potential player had to literally
"request registration" and my own registration caused a CFJ because, when I
joined, I said (clearly) "I register" instead of "I request to be
registered" and even that was controversial by the standards of the time:

https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?1263

I'm not sure the deflation is a huge factor in the difference - most
Arbitors seem to have left things judged not-CFJ in the archives with ID
numbers (I know I did) though they'd probably leave off ones that seemed
really trivially false.



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: With that dealt with,

2019-01-29 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 07:49 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Several I think, but the results are mixed.  ("[X] is/is not a
> player" is the most common phrase in CFJ statements after all).

How does it compare to "This is a CFJ"?

(Admittedly, the numbers on that one are somewhat deflated by the fact
that many of them turned out not to be.)

-- 
ais523



DIS: Re: BUS: With that dealt with,

2019-01-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



On 1/29/2019 7:43 AM, Telnaior wrote:

I register as a player, and cause myself to receive a Welcome Package.

(After all that I can't really be bothered coming up with a silly CFJ 
condition - I assume there's precedent for not being able to register by 
just starting to perform actions that would require you to be a player)


Several I think, but the results are mixed.  ("[X] is/is not a player" is
the most common phrase in CFJ statements after all).