Re: DIS: Score Voting
I don’t find a computer simulation of something as subjective as satisfaction to be very convincing, even given the relative soundness of the paper itself. I’d be against score voting _specifically because_ it appears to encourage - and indeed work best with - strategic rather than honest voting. That said, I am extremely glad to have provoked more discussion about voting methods! Thank you for posting this, and I hope you make time to submit a proposal. -o > On May 26, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Bernie Brackett wrote: > > If everyone votes strategically, then it's still an okay voting system. The > source for proof that it's the best is this image: > Which I found is from this: > https://www.electionscience.org/library/tactical-voting-basics/ despite me > first finding it here: https://ncase.me/ballot/ > > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 3:10 PM omd wrote: > >> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Bernie Brackett >> wrote: >>> it feels like there's a discussion going on involving what exactly single >>> transferable vote means, so I feel like I should bring up that Score >> Voting >>> has mathematically been proven to be better. Is there any reason not to >>> switch to it? >> >> What proof are you referring to? Instant runoff certainly has its >> downsides, but so does score voting. For example, per Wikipedia [1], >> the optimal strategy for score voting is usually to give each option >> either the minimum or maximum score, which then disadvantages voters >> who score the options based on their actual relative preferences. >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Score_voting#Strategy >> > <49D4EA26-E141-4EA6-8562-24805E6341C7.png> signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: DIS: Score Voting
If everyone votes strategically, then it's still an okay voting system. The source for proof that it's the best is this image: Which I found is from this: https://www.electionscience.org/library/tactical-voting-basics/ despite me first finding it here: https://ncase.me/ballot/ On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 3:10 PM omd wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Bernie Brackett > wrote: > > it feels like there's a discussion going on involving what exactly single > > transferable vote means, so I feel like I should bring up that Score > Voting > > has mathematically been proven to be better. Is there any reason not to > > switch to it? > > What proof are you referring to? Instant runoff certainly has its > downsides, but so does score voting. For example, per Wikipedia [1], > the optimal strategy for score voting is usually to give each option > either the minimum or maximum score, which then disadvantages voters > who score the options based on their actual relative preferences. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Score_voting#Strategy >
Re: DIS: Score Voting
On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Bernie Brackett wrote: > it feels like there's a discussion going on involving what exactly single > transferable vote means, so I feel like I should bring up that Score Voting > has mathematically been proven to be better. Is there any reason not to > switch to it? What proof are you referring to? Instant runoff certainly has its downsides, but so does score voting. For example, per Wikipedia [1], the optimal strategy for score voting is usually to give each option either the minimum or maximum score, which then disadvantages voters who score the options based on their actual relative preferences. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Score_voting#Strategy
Re: DIS: Score Voting
On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 01:20, James Cook wrote: > On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 22:20, Bernie Brackett wrote: > > it feels like there's a discussion going on involving what exactly single > > transferable vote means, so I feel like I should bring up that Score Voting > > has mathematically been proven to be better. Is there any reason not to > > switch to it? > > I like the simplicity. I think would support the switch. Draft proposal: Rule 2528 is amended as follows: * In the first paragraph, "instant runoff," is replaced by "score voting,". * Item 3 is replaced by: "For a score voting decision, any list of score assignments that does not repeat an option; for this purpose, a "score assignment" is a valid option and a score for that option, which must be an integer in the range 0 through 10 inclusive." Rule 955 is amended as follows: * Item 2 is replaced by: "For a score voting decision, the outcome is whichever option has the highest score, where the score of an option is the sum of the scores assigned to that option by valid ballots. In case of a tie, the vote collector CAN and must, in the announcement of the decision's resolution, select one of the leaders as the outcome." Rule 2127 is amended by deleting the paragraph that begins "For an instant runoff decision,". Rule 2154 is amended by replacing "instant runoff" with "score voting".
Re: DIS: Score Voting
On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 22:20, Bernie Brackett wrote: > it feels like there's a discussion going on involving what exactly single > transferable vote means, so I feel like I should bring up that Score Voting > has mathematically been proven to be better. Is there any reason not to > switch to it? I like the simplicity. I think would support the switch.
DIS: Score Voting
it feels like there's a discussion going on involving what exactly single transferable vote means, so I feel like I should bring up that Score Voting has mathematically been proven to be better. Is there any reason not to switch to it?
