Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Corona]

Seconded.

On Saturday, April 14, 2018, ATMunn  wrote:

> For the record, though, I think I do actually prefer the 5 auctions thing.
> It seems like it's a lot more interesting.
>
> On 4/13/2018 2:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
>> but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
>> original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>>> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>>> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>>>
>>> Things I'm aware of:
>>>
>>> - Treasuror is undefined
>>> - Welcome packages are undefined
>>> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>>> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>>>
>>> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let
>>> me know.
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>>
>>>
>>

-- 

~Corona

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[ATMunn]

For the record, though, I think I do actually prefer the 5 auctions 
thing. It seems like it's a lot more interesting.


On 4/13/2018 2:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:



I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.

Things I'm aware of:

- Treasuror is undefined
- Welcome packages are undefined
- The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
- The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere

If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me know.

-Aris

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

I know, but I disapprove of the idea on general principle [1].
Additionally, your contract doesn't write up the proposal text for
people who don't have the time to do it themselves.

-Aris


[1] vide 
https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=FAQ#Do_conditional_clauses_work.3F

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:21 AM, Gaelan Steele  wrote:
> I have a contract in place for exactly this purpose.
>
> Gaelan
>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>>
>> Things I'm aware of:
>>
>> - Treasuror is undefined
>> - Welcome packages are undefined
>> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>>
>> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
>> know.
>>
>> -Aris
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Kerim Aydin]

I mean it's a problem with the ruleset in general that leads to more
mistakes of this nature.  Of course each one cam be patched up as
it's found.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> I don't think it should be too hard. All we have to do is specify that
> "If the auctioneer CAN transfer the items in the lot to the winner at
> will, e immediately does so; otherwise, e SHALL do so in a timely
> fashion." Presuming that Agora can do whatever it wants to do, that
> works fine because Rule 2457 states that "A clause in a Contract
> purporting to make an entity which is neither the Contract itself nor
> a party to the Contract the Auctioneer of an Auction defined by that
> Contract is INEFFECTIVE."  So we don't have to worry about a contract
> making Agora the auctioneer or something.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> >
> >
> > The real difficulty is many of the rules that have "or contract"
> > generalizations when describing how things work.  It would be so much easier
> > if we could just assume all of auctions were transfers-from-agora and write
> > some auto transfer-from-agora language, but we have to (all over the place)
> > defer to "but if it's a contract it's a different auctioneer" etc...
> >
> > This means navigating a lot of edge-cases in the rules that are prone to
> > error for relatively little benefit (contracts mostly don't do this).
> >
> > On the last round of Contracts, we did it the other way.  Auctions would
> > be defined in the Rules for Agora only.  Then if a Contract wanted to
> > auction, it would write (in the Contract) "This Contract auction works
> > just like Agoran auctions, but with this Contract in place of Agora".
> >
> > Since Contracts were adjudicated by placing weight on intent/equity
> > instead of the technicalities of each loophole, this worked pretty well.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> >> Sigh. I really don't like it when other people are right. I guess that
> >> should be in the patches somewhere.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:42 Aris Merchant <
> >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > But where does it actually say that Agora actually ever makes such a
> >> > transfer?
> >> >
> >> > -Aris
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Reuben Staley 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > The Cartographor doesn't make the transfer as the Cartographor is only
> >> > the
> >> > > Announcer. Agora, the auctioneer, is authorized the make the transfer.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me 
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
> >> > >> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> > >> > I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as 
> >> > >> > is,
> >> > >> > but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes 
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its 
> >> > >> > own.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> >> > >> > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any
> >> > reasonably
> >> > >> > > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> >> > >> > > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Things I'm aware of:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > - Treasuror is undefined
> >> > >> > > - Welcome packages are undefined
> >> > >> > > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> >> > >> > > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
> >> > >> everywhere
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please
> >> > let
> >> > >> me know.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -Aris
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

I don't think it should be too hard. All we have to do is specify that
"If the auctioneer CAN transfer the items in the lot to the winner at
will, e immediately does so; otherwise, e SHALL do so in a timely
fashion." Presuming that Agora can do whatever it wants to do, that
works fine because Rule 2457 states that "A clause in a Contract
purporting to make an entity which is neither the Contract itself nor
a party to the Contract the Auctioneer of an Auction defined by that
Contract is INEFFECTIVE."  So we don't have to worry about a contract
making Agora the auctioneer or something.

-Aris


On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> The real difficulty is many of the rules that have "or contract"
> generalizations when describing how things work.  It would be so much easier
> if we could just assume all of auctions were transfers-from-agora and write
> some auto transfer-from-agora language, but we have to (all over the place)
> defer to "but if it's a contract it's a different auctioneer" etc...
>
> This means navigating a lot of edge-cases in the rules that are prone to
> error for relatively little benefit (contracts mostly don't do this).
>
> On the last round of Contracts, we did it the other way.  Auctions would
> be defined in the Rules for Agora only.  Then if a Contract wanted to
> auction, it would write (in the Contract) "This Contract auction works
> just like Agoran auctions, but with this Contract in place of Agora".
>
> Since Contracts were adjudicated by placing weight on intent/equity
> instead of the technicalities of each loophole, this worked pretty well.
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
>> Sigh. I really don't like it when other people are right. I guess that
>> should be in the patches somewhere.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:42 Aris Merchant <
>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > But where does it actually say that Agora actually ever makes such a
>> > transfer?
>> >
>> > -Aris
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Reuben Staley 
>> > wrote:
>> > > The Cartographor doesn't make the transfer as the Cartographor is only
>> > the
>> > > Announcer. Agora, the auctioneer, is authorized the make the transfer.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
>> > >> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
>> > >> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> > >> > I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
>> > >> > but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
>> > >> > original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> > >> > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any
>> > reasonably
>> > >> > > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> > >> > > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Things I'm aware of:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > - Treasuror is undefined
>> > >> > > - Welcome packages are undefined
>> > >> > > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> > >> > > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
>> > >> everywhere
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please
>> > let
>> > >> me know.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > -Aris
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>
>
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Kerim Aydin]

The real difficulty is many of the rules that have "or contract" 
generalizations when describing how things work.  It would be so much easier
if we could just assume all of auctions were transfers-from-agora and write
some auto transfer-from-agora language, but we have to (all over the place)
defer to "but if it's a contract it's a different auctioneer" etc...

This means navigating a lot of edge-cases in the rules that are prone to
error for relatively little benefit (contracts mostly don't do this).

On the last round of Contracts, we did it the other way.  Auctions would
be defined in the Rules for Agora only.  Then if a Contract wanted to
auction, it would write (in the Contract) "This Contract auction works
just like Agoran auctions, but with this Contract in place of Agora".

Since Contracts were adjudicated by placing weight on intent/equity 
instead of the technicalities of each loophole, this worked pretty well.


On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> Sigh. I really don't like it when other people are right. I guess that
> should be in the patches somewhere.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:42 Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > But where does it actually say that Agora actually ever makes such a
> > transfer?
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Reuben Staley 
> > wrote:
> > > The Cartographor doesn't make the transfer as the Cartographor is only
> > the
> > > Announcer. Agora, the auctioneer, is authorized the make the transfer.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
> > >> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
> > >> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > >> > I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
> > >> > but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
> > >> > original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > >> > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any
> > reasonably
> > >> > > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> > >> > > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Things I'm aware of:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > - Treasuror is undefined
> > >> > > - Welcome packages are undefined
> > >> > > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> > >> > > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
> > >> everywhere
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please
> > let
> > >> me know.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Aris
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Reuben Staley]

Sigh. I really don't like it when other people are right. I guess that
should be in the patches somewhere.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:42 Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But where does it actually say that Agora actually ever makes such a
> transfer?
>
> -Aris
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Reuben Staley 
> wrote:
> > The Cartographor doesn't make the transfer as the Cartographor is only
> the
> > Announcer. Agora, the auctioneer, is authorized the make the transfer.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
> >> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
> >> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> > I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
> >> > but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
> >> > original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> >> > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any
> reasonably
> >> > > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> >> > > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> >> > >
> >> > > Things I'm aware of:
> >> > >
> >> > > - Treasuror is undefined
> >> > > - Welcome packages are undefined
> >> > > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> >> > > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
> >> everywhere
> >> > >
> >> > > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please
> let
> >> me know.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Aris
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

But where does it actually say that Agora actually ever makes such a transfer?

-Aris

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Reuben Staley  wrote:
> The Cartographor doesn't make the transfer as the Cartographor is only the
> Announcer. Agora, the auctioneer, is authorized the make the transfer.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
>> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
>> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> > I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
>> > but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
>> > original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>> > > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> > > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>> > >
>> > > Things I'm aware of:
>> > >
>> > > - Treasuror is undefined
>> > > - Welcome packages are undefined
>> > > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> > > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
>> everywhere
>> > >
>> > > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let
>> me know.
>> > >
>> > > -Aris
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Reuben Staley]

The Cartographor doesn't make the transfer as the Cartographor is only the
Announcer. Agora, the auctioneer, is authorized the make the transfer.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:00 Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
> > but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
> > original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> > > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> > > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> > >
> > > Things I'm aware of:
> > >
> > > - Treasuror is undefined
> > > - Welcome packages are undefined
> > > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> > > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
> everywhere
> > >
> > > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let
> me know.
> > >
> > > -Aris
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

AFAICT it doesn't, so e can't. I presume we're letting last week's
auctions self-ratify, so that shouldn't be a problem for those. I
think the best fix is to specify that if Agora is the auctioneer and
the Auction is rule specified, the transfer is automatic unless
specified otherwise.

-Aris

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
>> but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
>> original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>> > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>> >
>> > Things I'm aware of:
>> >
>> > - Treasuror is undefined
>> > - Welcome packages are undefined
>> > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>> >
>> > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
>> > know.
>> >
>> > -Aris
>> >
>>
>
>
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

Yeah, sure.

-Aris

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
> where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
> transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
>> but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
>> original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>> > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>> >
>> > Things I'm aware of:
>> >
>> > - Treasuror is undefined
>> > - Welcome packages are undefined
>> > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>> >
>> > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
>> > know.
>> >
>> > -Aris
>> >
>>
>
>
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

Sure, I'll leave it out.

-Aris

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
> but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
> original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>>
>> Things I'm aware of:
>>
>> - Treasuror is undefined
>> - Welcome packages are undefined
>> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>>
>> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
>> know.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Kerim Aydin]

However, (and this is the third time I've asked) can anyone point me to
where it says in the rules that the cartographer actually CAN make a
transfer of land from Agora to a land auction winner?


On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: 
> I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
> but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
> original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.
> 
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> > 
> > Things I'm aware of:
> > 
> > - Treasuror is undefined
> > - Welcome packages are undefined
> > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
> > 
> > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
> > know.
> > 
> > -Aris
> >
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Reuben Staley]

One thing I just realized might be useful: while you're fixing that, can
you also make it so that one corn can replace 3 or fewer apples instead of
only 3?

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 01:51 Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, one that I'd forgotten about: the place in Rule 2003 where it says
> "Players CAN, while performing the above actions, substitute 3 apples
> for 1 corn" should actually be the other way around.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
> > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> >
> > Things I'm aware of:
> >
> > - Treasuror is undefined
> > - Welcome packages are undefined
> > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
> >
> > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let
> me know.
> >
> > -Aris
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Kerim Aydin]

I don't consider 1 auctions/5 auctions to be a patch.  It works as is,
but some people want it a different way (never mind that includes the
original author).  As it's controversial, please leave it on its own.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> 
> Things I'm aware of:
> 
> - Treasuror is undefined
> - Welcome packages are undefined
> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
> 
> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
> know.
> 
> -Aris
>

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

Thank you!

-Aris

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:04 AM Reuben Staley 
wrote:

> As all of these are my fault, directly or indirectly, I transfer one
> paper to Aris for the purpose of pending the patch proposal outlined below.
>
> This is a notice of honour {
>
> +1 Aris for eir patching work
> -1 Telnaior for being inactive
>
> }
>
> I cannot think of any patches that I think should be included, but I
> would like to submit a warning that without careful planning, some of
> the patches may conflict with GLatF. Please, we don't want other rules
> to fail because of a patch.
>
> On 04/13/2018 01:48 AM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> > description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> >
> > Things I'm aware of:
> >
> > - Treasuror is undefined
> > - Welcome packages are undefined
> > - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> > - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
> >
> > If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let
> me know.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
>

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Corona]

I'd take "substitute 3 apples for 1 corn" to mean that a one-way conversion
only is possible (in the useless direction). Sure, we all know the rule
wasn't meant that way, but Agora tends to follow the letter of law, not its
spirit.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Ned Strange 
wrote:

> Doesn't it still work? I think any reasonable person would understand
> that 1 corn= 3 apples with that text.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
> > Oh, one that I'd forgotten about: the place in Rule 2003 where it says
> > "Players CAN, while performing the above actions, substitute 3 apples
> > for 1 corn" should actually be the other way around.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant
> >  wrote:
> >> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> >> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> >> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> >>
> >> Things I'm aware of:
> >>
> >> - Treasuror is undefined
> >> - Welcome packages are undefined
> >> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> >> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from
> everywhere
> >>
> >> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let
> me know.
> >>
> >> -Aris
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada
>



-- 

~Corona

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Gaelan Steele]

I have a contract in place for exactly this purpose. 

Gaelan

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
> 
> Things I'm aware of:
> 
> - Treasuror is undefined
> - Welcome packages are undefined
> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
> 
> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
> know.
> 
> -Aris

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Ned Strange]

Doesn't it still work? I think any reasonable person would understand
that 1 corn= 3 apples with that text.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> Oh, one that I'd forgotten about: the place in Rule 2003 where it says
> "Players CAN, while performing the above actions, substitute 3 apples
> for 1 corn" should actually be the other way around.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
>> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
>> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
>> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>>
>> Things I'm aware of:
>>
>> - Treasuror is undefined
>> - Welcome packages are undefined
>> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
>> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>>
>> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
>> know.
>>
>> -Aris



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

[Aris Merchant]

Oh, one that I'd forgotten about: the place in Rule 2003 where it says
"Players CAN, while performing the above actions, substitute 3 apples
for 1 corn" should actually be the other way around.

-Aris

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably
> uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a
> description of the problem and a link to any previous discussion.
>
> Things I'm aware of:
>
> - Treasuror is undefined
> - Welcome packages are undefined
> - The 1 auction/5 auctions problem
> - The thing where you can transfer things into a facility from everywhere
>
> If I've missed anything, or you disagree with any of these, please let me 
> know.
>
> -Aris