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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 1:40 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > " Date of last report: Tue, 26 Sep 2017" > > This is wrong, although it doesn't matter. Is it? The last correct report, up to information known at the time of publication, was on that date. I actually picked that

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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:20 AM Aris Merchant wrote: > CoE: I think I bought a stamp a few weeks ago when everything was cheap. You did, on Sept. 5th. 2017-09-04 ! Aris created a stamp Agora 4 Shinies

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I made Gaelan give them to you with an agency of his. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Rubin Stacy wrote: > Where'd I get twenty shinies? > > -- > Trigon > -- > > On Oct 3, 2017 7:35 PM, "Owen Jacobson" wrote: >> >> 864 Shinies Player

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I paid Agora 17 shinies earlier today. You probably missed it. On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Trigon wrote: > > > > I'd love to contribute to the economic stabilization; however, being a >

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Trigon wrote: > > I'd love to contribute to the economic stabilization; however, being a > shiniless scrub, I cannot. I extend thanks to everyone who is involved in > this effort. As it happens, there are now enough Shinies in Agora’s

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Try this on a public forum. However, the spirit of your generosity is very much appreciated. -o > On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:11 PM, ATMunn . wrote: > > I currently have 51 shinies. > I give Agora 17 shinies. > > [I really have nothing better to do with them anyways, so I

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I'd love to contribute to the economic stabilization; however, being a shiniless scrub, I cannot. I extend thanks to everyone who is involved in this effort. On 9/25/2017 10:41 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 25

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On 09/25/2017 11:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: I will issue everyone who does this a trust token (all at once, with my charity report) and will try to think of a more substantial token of gratitude. Thank you. -Aris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:53 PM VJ Rada

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I currently have 51 shinies. I give Agora 17 shinies. [I really have nothing better to do with them anyways, so I might as well help out.] On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Per random.org, I give Agora 13

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Basically, with the current system, it's trading shinies around to see what happens. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Kerim Aydin

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I will issue everyone who does this a trust token (all at once, with my charity report) and will try to think of a more substantial token of gratitude. Thank you. -Aris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:53 PM VJ Rada wrote: > I have like 62 I think? I give Agora 20 shinies. > > On

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> On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> * The reward for authoring or pending a successful proposal pended with >> shinies is 1 sh. > > Ok, so as much as I understand the assessor's lateness, I suspect

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On Mon, 19 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > I should note that (mostly in honour of Bucky) I've been intentionally > trying to increase the ability of nonplayers to be able to participate I may or may not have been doing so over the past couple years in honor of a different non-player.

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On Sat, 2017-06-17 at 14:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > It's my impression that in the last 3-4 years, the number of places > the rules say "person" instead of "player" has crept up (I haven't > done a count or anything).  That was a lot of slow-play time, so a > lot of the things that have been

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On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I can't claim that the clause in the current ruleset is the direct lineage >> from that ancient scam, but I think that since then, there's always been >> something

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I can't claim that the clause in the current ruleset is the direct lineage > from that ancient scam, but I think that since then, there's always been > something high-powered and explicit in the rules that a person must give > informed consent to be

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> I tend to treat the rule about consent as an informative observation about > >> the nature of Agora, and not as a

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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> I tend to treat the rule about consent as an informative observation about >> the nature of Agora, and not as a normative part of the rules. It >> memorializes >>

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I tend to treat the rule about consent as an informative observation about > the nature of Agora, and not as a normative part of the rules. It memorializes > the observation that we all agree that Agora Is A Game, and that playing is > voluntary. We

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > * If you pledge to do a thing, then Agorans can evaluate whether you > have broken your pledge or not, regardless of your consent. > > * The Referee can (maybe; see the other arm of this thread) issue > you a card, regardless of your consent. > > *

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> On Jun 17, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> 6. If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the >>> rules, >>> is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? >>

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > 6. If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the > > rules, > > is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? > > 7. It is not necessary that someone be bound to the rules in order for them > to

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > One possible Agoran solution - to both questions - would be a high- > Power rule whose effect is to nullify game actions (for some suitable > definition thereof) made by non-players. I was discussing this whole > affair with my fiancée this evening

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> On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote: >>> Which rule is authorizing the issuance of a card? >> Rule 2450, where it says that breaking a pledge is a cardable offense. > > Food for thought: > > 1. CAN is the

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On Jun 16, 2017, at 8:44 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > >Kerim Aydin > >'s > > post > > To add to that, can non-players perform unregulated actions? > > Non-players actually being

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>Kerim Aydin 's post To add to that, can non-players perform unregulated actions? Non-players actually being able to "play" the game without needing to be bound to its rules is already pretty big "hocus

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 12:35 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > 6.  If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the > > rules, > > is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? > > Back when private contracts

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On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 12:35 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > 6.  If a non-player publicly pledges but says e isn't being bound by the > rules, > is it a R2450 Agoran pledge, or a non-enforceable non-Agoran pledge? Back when private contracts existed, it was game custom to agree them as "binding

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote: > > Which rule is authorizing the issuance of a card? > Rule 2450, where it says that breaking a pledge is a cardable offense. Food for thought: 1. CAN is the approved way of empowering an action, but there's nothing that says other common-language

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> Which rule is authorizing the issuance of a card? Rule 2450, where it says that breaking a pledge is a cardable offense. I suppose "publicly-made" might be construed to mean "in a public forum", which would prevent Donald Trump from getting a card. I can see the argument as for why G. can't be

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On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 02:34 -0400, 天火狐 wrote: > I don't see how something like the following in the appropriate forum > wouldn't successfully give a card, assuming that it was issued in the right > time frame: "I issue Donald Trump a Green Card for breaking his pledge to > direct his secretary of

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I don't see how something like the following in the appropriate forum wouldn't successfully give a card, assuming that it was issued in the right time frame: "I issue Donald Trump a Green Card for breaking his pledge to direct his secretary of the treasury to label China a currency manipulator."

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On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 02:08 -0400, 天火狐 wrote: > > I don’t think I can do anything about this, formally, since you’re still > > not a player, but if you insist I can put together a theory under which > this should be carded. > > CFJ 1709 states that non-players are still bound to contracts if

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> I don’t think I can do anything about this, formally, since you’re still not a player, but if you insist I can put together a theory under which this should be carded. CFJ 1709 states that non-players are still bound to contracts if they are party to it, with the implication that non-players

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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:53 AM Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 16:00 +, Quazie wrote: > > Wow, that's broken - any public document proporting to be a report > > self-ratifies? > > It's not broken, it's intentional: > > a) Public documents puporting to be

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Yes, they are. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > > Isn't PSS and Publius Scrib(...) the same person? (8 and 45 Shinies)

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Wow, that's broken - any public document proporting to be a report self-ratifies? On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 08:28 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > > Given there's no way for this report to be published by any one > > other than the current

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > Given there's no way for this report to be published by any one > other than the current office holder as it isn't late, I choose > to ignore it. Please read R2162(c) (noting shiny holdings are switches) and let me know if ignoring it is still a preferred

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I’m tracking them by publication date, for the purposes of paydays. -o > On Jun 2, 2017, at 12:29 AM, Quazie wrote: > > For ADOP reasons - this report says it's from the 28th, but today's the 2nd > (utc date obviously) - how do I track the date of the report? > On Thu,

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For ADOP reasons - this report says it's from the 28th, but today's the 2nd (utc date obviously) - how do I track the date of the report? On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 21:26 Owen Jacobson wrote: > Astonishingly, this managed to fall neatly between the various attempts to > keep

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> I would like to point out that I am not an office (in the recent events > section of the report). > 天火狐 No Player is an Office (CFJ 1895).

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On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Hate to to point this out, and I may be wrong, but... This report appears not > to reflect the several proposals you pended. Might want to update that. So > everyone knows, I'm not planning to release my