On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
<agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 5/21/2020 9:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> > In retrospect those aren't the best examples, because we do use this pretty
> > frequently for scams and releveling economies (there's even such a provision
> > in the Sets proposal to give everyone cards).
> >
> > I didn't think about the restrictions Aris mentioned, but I bet there's 
> > still
> > clever things we could do here that we haven't explored yet.
> >
>
> It's pretty easy to get around Aris's restrictions there - instead of
> saying the Treasuror SHALL make coin changes in a timely fashion, just say
> that the coin changes happen instantly when the proposal takes effect, and
> then the Treasuror's standing reporting requirements means e has to
> back-calculate the result anyway.
>
> For lasting effects, it *might* be possible for a proposal to create a
> contract, if the proposal includes a consent clause.  (I thought about a
> tournament but I don't think that works).
>
> Let's test that:
>
> I submit the following proposal, "a Proposed Contract", AI-1:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> When this proposal takes effect, the following contract is created.
> Voting FOR this proposal is considered contextual agreement to the
> contract.
>
>
> -------------------------
> Contract: Cold Cash Lotto
>
> This proposal CAN be terminated with Agoran Consent; non-parties are
> not eligible to support or object to an intent to do so.  A non-party
> CAN join this contract for a fee (payable to the contract) of 5 coins.
>
> A party's Investment is 1 + the number of coins that party has ever
> transferred to this contract.
>
> If this contract has been in existence for 4 or more days, and no coins
> have been transferred to the contract in the previous 24 hours, then
> any party (hereafter the iceman) CAN Freeze the Pot by announcement.
>
> Within 24 hours of freezing the pot, the iceman SHALL, using a public
> and readily confirmable method, select a random party to win the
> pot and announce the choice.  If e does not do so within 24 hours,
> then any party CAN do so. The probabilities for the selection are
> proportional to each party's investment at the time the pot was frozen.
>
> Upon such a selection, this contract transfers all of its coins to the
> selected winner.  After such a transfer, this contract ceases to exist.

No, it doesn't transfer them. The only way this can happen is by the
the mechanism in Rule 1742, which requires a party to do it by
announcement. I think you want "Upon such a selection, the iceman CAN
and SHALL, by announcement, cause this contract to transfer all of its
coins to the selected winner."

-Aris
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