DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
(Sending to the discussion list for silly technical reasons: I forgot to claim the Assignment for last week, so I can't get rewarded yet. The revised contract should let me get a reward for it because I can report on past weeks, but that only works if it hasn't previously been published.) Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Below is the report for the week of 2021-02-08..14: # Summary G.'s era of dictatorly mischief is finally unambiguously at an end, with eir Emergency Regulations repealed by proposal if they weren't already. The new era is marked by the election of our new Prime Minister: all hail Trigon! This week also saw the rollback of the Bodies of Law framework and a reworked Extra Votes mechanism. Mysterious "Bunny"'s identity revealed: it's ATMunn! An idea circulated this week: reward clever tournament regulation authors by encouraging turning them into theses. Cuddlebeam tries out nix's class-0 oathbreaking idea from last week. Let's indict em! More originally, Cuddlebeam also tries to make a contract with no parties. # Voting * Voting ends on Proposals 8538-8540. All three are adopted. * Repeal all emergency regulations. See the "Dictatorship" section last week for context. (8538) * Roll back the Bodies of Law framework. (8539) * Make Extra Votes stronger. (8540) * Trigon is elected Prime Minister. # Miscellanous * Jason proposes to redistribute Doubloons evenly in the Pirate contract. * The "Guess That Agoran!" game continues until Aris correctly guesses it's ATMunn. * It's Falsifian's birthday, but birthday rewards are still broken. * Falsifian proposes an amendment to the Agoran Press contract. # Proposals * G. suggests adding rule text encouraging turning tournament regulations into theses. * Jason proposes to make unused Stones more likely to escape. (E submitted then withdrew a version last week.) # Dictatorship * G. explains what eir plan last week was: "My plan had been to uncertainty-entangle aspects of the gamestate...". Thread: "Dictator Dethronement" # Rule questions * Cuddlebeam deliberately makes and breaks a pledge with a crime value of 0. (nix already did this last week.) Jason suggests indicting em. * Cuddlebeam tries to makes a contract that persists even with no parties. Thread: "humble agoran farmer creates Pinocchio" * Would the proposal "Destroy Agora." be blocked by Rule 1698, or would something else block it instead? Something else: G. judges CFJ 3896 FALSE. Related: Contracts v8 indeed took effect (CFJ 3897 FALSE). # Auctions * The February stone auction takes place. The Wealth and Sabatoge stones are auctioned. * The February victory auction ends. Falsifian wins with a bid of 300 Coins for one Victory Card. -- Falsifian
Re: [Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 15:45, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 10:43 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > > The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord > > invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. > > > > On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >> https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora suddenly has an unofficial Discord > >> server. This happened when a downside of Agora's recent increased > >> activity becomes impossible to ignore: the activity is hard to keep up > >> with, and it might even be scaring new players away. There was some > >> discussion of different strategies, but for now R. Lee went ahead and > >> just created the server. > > -- > > ATMunn > > friendly neighborhood notary here :) > > Forgot that, by default, discord links expire. Here's one that doesn't > expire: https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc > > -- > nch > Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager Thanks. Updated in the online version of last week's summary, in case people check for it there. - Falsifian
Re: [Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
On 6/25/20 10:43 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord > invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. > > On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora suddenly has an unofficial Discord >> server. This happened when a downside of Agora's recent increased >> activity becomes impossible to ignore: the activity is hard to keep up >> with, and it might even be scaring new players away. There was some >> discussion of different strategies, but for now R. Lee went ahead and >> just created the server. > -- > ATMunn > friendly neighborhood notary here :) Forgot that, by default, discord links expire. Here's one that doesn't expire: https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
[Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora suddenly has an unofficial Discord server. This happened when a downside of Agora's recent increased activity becomes impossible to ignore: the activity is hard to keep up with, and it might even be scaring new players away. There was some discussion of different strategies, but for now R. Lee went ahead and just created the server. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary here :)
DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-06-15..21: # Summary Welcome Zyborg! https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora suddenly has an unofficial Discord server. This happened when a downside of Agora's recent increased activity becomes impossible to ignore: the activity is hard to keep up with, and it might even be scaring new players away. There was some discussion of different strategies, but for now R. Lee went ahead and just created the server. We have a new PM, a new Notary, shiny new reports, some new things on the Web, and some possible regulations for the Github org. We might even be getting a new logo soon! See the "Offices, reports, website" section. There was debate this week about the Certification rule, starting with a question about what the Rulekeepor is allowed to certify. Eventually R. Lee just decided to start illegally certifying everything. The economics of proposal costs, and alternative proposals, were discussed. A healthy batch of proposals was adopted this week, but some had bugs preventing them from being applied. New proposals up for voting include a new Card-based subgame, officer regulations, and a term limit for the Prime Minister. Agora's current Contract craze continues: lots of trading and other Contract-based activity going on. Even space in Trigon's signature is for sale. See "Contracts and trading" below. Plenty of fixes and patches large and small are in the works, including handling zombies with assets instead of switches. See "Proposals to fix, simplify, etc" and "Other Proposals" below. Plenty more rule-related questions in the "Rules questions" section. # Email volume and chat clients Bögtil triggers a discussion on moving some discussion to chat rooms when e announces that e is leaving for now in the thread "Leaving" (retitled to "Leaving or something like that"). There's discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of IRC, Discord, Matrix and other options, which is continued in the threads "[Poll] A chat client for Agora" and "Fora and Accessibility", and a small side-discussion on archiving (thread: "Archival Continuity and Discussion Accessibility"). R. Lee goes ahead and creates a Discord server at https://discord.gg/UGxm3v , and nch reports some activity. Thread: "Action Is better than words" # Certification debate There's debate about how and whether it should be possible to pend bugfix proposals for free. * Partly the debate this week is triggered by Jason's argument that being Rulekeepor means all rules bugs relate to em so e's allowed to certify patches. Threads: "Black ribbon patch", "CFJ 3853 Assigned to nch"; this is also mentioned in the Rules questions section. * There's some discussion of the economic implications of being able to pend any proposal for a blot penalty in the thread "Black ribbon patch". * When CFJ 3853 is assigned to nch, e says: "As someone who strongly opposed the relevant rule, specifically because of its ambiguity, I feel like I've been Cassandra'd." - nch * Aris starts the thread "How and Whether to Change Patch Certification" for discussion. * R. Lee proposes to make patching unconditionally a crime. Thread: "We Might As Well Be Honest". The retitling of Rule 2626 to "Costly Certification" in eir proposal probably relates to this econonic perspective. * R. Lee then just goes ahead and certififies everything, then points eir finger at emself, in the thread "actually fuck it". * nch proposes a change which allows (effectively) pending without objection, and also tracks such proposals as "Special" instead of "Pending". Thread: "Ready Proposals" # Voting, and adoption of proposals * The decisions on whether to adopt Proposals 8431-8441 are resolved. Adopted: * Reduce rewards for high-AI proposals (8431) * Lower the bar for motions of no confidence, and stress they're not personal (8434, 8435) * Remove much of the Defense Against the Dark Arts rule (8437) * Give the Tailor an official weekly reporting duty (8438) * Allow election candidates to withdraw (8439) * The Rulekeepor identifies bugs in Proposals 8412, 8426 and 8429 that prevent them from being applied. Thread: "Notes on Application of Proposals 8409-8430" * R. Lee proposes fixes. Thread: "Rulekeeping Bug Fixes" * Voting begins on Proposals 8442-8457: * A subgame involving Cards. (8442) * A term limit for Prime Minister. (8443) * Change "in an officially timely fashion" to "in a sedate fashion". (8444) * Make it easier to change rule titles. (8445) * Auction off Victory Cards. (8446) * Ban scams involving new rules. (8447) * Another pass at officer-approved administrative regulations with an application for the Herald (8448, 8449) * The difference from the previous attempt is that now all players, not just officers, are eligible to support or object to regulations. * G.
DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-06-08..14: # Summary nch's long-awaited Sets economy was adopted this week, and we've already seen three contracts for moving Cards and Products around (one of which has been revealed to be a scam, so far) as well as proposals for new rules to go with Sets. There's nothing like an imminent proposal pending fee to get Agorans' creativity flowing. Sets comes as part of a massive two rounds of resolved proposals this week, with many changes adopted including a drastic change to auctions. A large number were distributed this week as well. We saw a rare victory by the difficult mechanism of Raising a Banner, almost drowned out by the intense buzz of activity around Sets. This makes G. our latest Champion. G. was also honoured for eir academic work, receiving a Juris Doctor of Nomic. And on the subject of culture, the proposal awarding the 2016 Silver Quill was adopted this week. nch was elected Webmastor, and immediately gave Agora's website some well-deserved attention, and also staged a benevolent Github coup (for our protection). Other elections are under way: voting began for Prime Minister, and our new ADoP started another ADoP election to give the old one a chance to fight to get it back. Most active players hop on a new pirate ship to loot the Lost and Found Department. Is it really piracy if it's done without objection? That's only the tip of the iceberg. Plenty of other happenings this week, from proposed judicial reforms to actions in Spanish to an occult store, listed below. # Polls, report formats, putting things on the web, and a new person * The Webmastor asks some questions to Agorans. Thread: "[Webmastor] Informal Polling" * New poster lucidot makes eir first Agora posts in this thread, giving some feedback, and is welcomed. * Discussion topics include what should go on the home page, the experience for new players, and how to easily put reports on the web. * The Treasuror drafts a new format for eir reports (now that there are many kinds of asset for em to track), including an HTML version on the web, and gets feedback in the thread "[Treasuror] New Report Format" * Webmastor nch reduces the number of owners in the Agoranomic Github org. There's some discussion about how to pick the set of owners. Thread: "[Webmastor] A Github Coup" * The Webmastor makes some small updates to the homepage. Thread: "[Webmastor] Tiny Homepage Updates" * A tweak to the Assessor's assessment format is suggested and implemented in the thread "Resolution of Proposals 8409-8430" # Games and the Sets Economy * The Sets economy (Proposal 8408) is adopted. * G. proposes a game built on the new Sets economy. Thread: "Barrel rolling" * There's some debate about phrasing triggering R2579 to make winning require payment of 100 barrels, and whether winning the game is an action. * G. proposes to rephrase winning by paradox to be a new action (Transcending Logic) which causes winning, to address potential bugs related to fee-based actions and whether winning the game is an action. Thread: "indirect wins" * The question of whether winning the game should be an action comes up in the thread "ribbon win question". * There's discussion of ways players could collude to win. * G. proposes regular auctions of Victory Cards together with assets owned by the Lost and Found Department. Thread: "Victory auctions" * There's some discussion about possible economic loopholes in Sets and related proposals, and whether this is an unavoidable part of starting a new system. Thread: "Victory auctions" * Cuddlebeam proposes to ban scamming rules less than 90 days old. * ATMunn drafts a proposal for "amulets" that are auctioned off and grant powers. Discussion includes mention of an earlier proto "Stones" by G., tuning the power of the amulets, the possibility of an unusual auction mechanism, and pooling resources. * Trading and pooling: * The Needlessly Abstract Exchange gets tested out. Mistake(s) are made and bugs are fixed. Threads have "NAX" in the subject line. * Contracts for pooling Cards to efficiently convert them to Products: * Aris announces DracoLotto, a pooling contract where the Dragon Corporation contract earning some profit. Same players contribute. Thread: "DracoLotto" * R. Lee announces the Combinotron, which does not take a profit. E later reveals it to be an attempted scam and destroys it, forgetting that e had transferred some of eir assets to it, which go to the Lost and Found Department (L). Discussion turns to a question about specifying assets when announcing intent to transfer assets from the L Threads: "[Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron", 'Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"' * Cuddlebeam suggests making a contract to
DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-06-01..07: # Summary Welcome, Tyler! A very busy week. With nch's new "Sets" economy coming, there's a rush to submit proposals while submitting them is still free, leading the Promotor to perform an unusual second distribution within the week. Plenty of interesting ones, summarized in the sections below. nch creates the Needlessly Abstract Exchange in anticipation of the new economy, and the Dragon Corporation president promises new plans to come. Many proposals were adopted this week, including the office of the Webmastor (filled by nch), outlawing actions dangerous to Agora, and another attempt to fix auctions (with a wild auction experiment coming on its heels). Let's see if we finally get a working zombie auction. R. Lee seized the office of ADoP by deputizing this week, and many office elections are under way. What does negative karma mean? Is issuing blots a rebuke? Discussion on these and other topics, and on treating each other well, referenced in the "Honour, minor crimes, being nice to each other, gaming" section below. The Flappy Bird tournament isn't happening, but Agora's Birthday tournament is coming up, and it looks like it will be Diplonomic. On the subject of birthdays, happy birthday to Jason! Agora's scholarly traditions continue. G. transforms eir earlier arguments about the status of the ancient CFJ 7 into a thesis, and many rules questions are discussed in other threads, including one in Spanish. Some other topics this week: rules about player intent; choosing good terminology; continued discussion whether players should follow the rules (including bringing back a crime/infraction distinction). # Registrations * New player Tyler registers. # Voting and elections * ATMunn becomes a candidate for Notary, and R. Lee tries to withdraw but it's pointed out there's no mechanism for doing that. Voting begins. Threads: "Notary Election", "Notary Election Enters Next phase" * P.S.S. proposes to add a mechanism for withdrawing candidacy (thread: "Termination of Candidacy"). * R. Lee resigns as Notary. * R. Lee takes the office of ADoP from Murphy by deputisation, and initiates elections for Prime Minister, ADoP, and Webmastor. * The Prime Minister election was actually initiated before e took over ADoP; e also attempted to start elections for Promotor, ADoP, Assessor, Arbitor and Registrar, saying e's interested in ADoP and Registrar. Threads: "Election Time", "Prime Minister Election Attempt". * The current H. Prime Minister says e will not run for a second term, in accordance with tradition. * Due to a large number of proposals in flight, there are two proposal distributions this week. Voting begins on the following: * Proposals 8405-8408: * A small fix (8405) * Replace the Line-item Veto rule with a Cabinet Order. (8406) * After 8406 was composed, proposal 8400 repealed Line-item Veto. * Repeal auction definitions and defer the mechanism to the auctineer and Treasuror instead. (8407) * A new game / economy! (8408) * Proposals 8409-8430: * Fixes and other small changes (8410, 8412, 8413, 8415, 8416, 8417, 8422, 8423, 8428) * Academic reform (8409) * New patent title about contracts (8411) * Change ministry descriptions (8414) * Define a new term "Referenda" for proposal decisions (8418) * Define new executive orders (8419) but allow the Prime Minister to be recalled when that happens (8420) * Allow exchanging any 3 Cards for 1 of a specified type (8421) * Allow pending fixes without paying a Pendant (8424) * Decreasing or removing punishment in certain cases: (8425, 8426, 8427, 8429) * Back-award the 2016 Silver Quill (8430) * The decisions on whether to adopt proposals 8388-8404 are resolved. Adopted: * The office of the Webmastor (8388) * Strip old rule text including the Editor and Line-item Veto (8389, 8395, 8399, 8400) * Make crimes are punishable according to the rules at the time of the event (8392) * Allow late nominations to otherwise uncontested elections. (8393) * Ban zombies from office (8394; originally attempted in 8228) * Fix auctions (8396) * Define "to refer" (8397) * Outlaw doing things that would harm Agora if it were not for R1698, and introduce a new process for "high crimes" (8401, 8404) * Bring back Promises (8402) # History and Academics * R. Lee pledges a bounty for filling in all the gaps in the CFJ database in the years 2018 and 2019. Thread: "Pledge (attention COTC)" * G. submits a thesis: "On the Continuity of the Agoran Judicial System". It is based on eir arguments as Arbitor in March 2020 that e could assign the ancient CFJ 7 to a new judge. It touches on how to handle uncertainty over what may have happened over 26 years of
DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-25..31: # Summary Welcome back, ATMunn! This week, R. Lee is keeping things fun with a proposed Flappy Bird tournament and a proposal bribing voters with black ribbons in return for victory. As usual, there were a variety of interesting rules questions. grok tried to transfer some "shinies", and G. filled in the missing definition with a currency under eir own control. There was some discussion about whether people should try to follow the rules at all. Proposals: nch continued to revise eir draft for a "Sets" economy. In the meantime, many proposals were up for voting this week, including a new office of Webmastor the return of Promises, and a new process for high crimes. New proposals under discussion include doing away with auction definitions, and handling zombies with assets ("talismans") instead of switches. Agora's academic and cultural traditions continue. P.S.S. and nch ask for feedback on their thesis topics; long service awards are awarded; and a proposal is submitted to award the 2016 Silver Quill. # Voting and Elections * Voting begins on proposals 8388-8404, including: * The office of the Webmastor (8388) * Stripping old rule text including the Editor and Line-item Veto (8389, 8395, 8399, 8400) * Office renames: Registror and Notory (8390, 8391) * Make crimes are punishable according to the rules at the time of the event (8392) * Election nomination timing fix (8393) * Ban zombies from office (8394; originally attempted in 8228) * Fix auctions (8396) * Define "to refer" (8397) * Make "by announcement" the default mechanism where the rules say "CAN and SHALL" (8398) * Outlaw doing things that would harm Agora if it were not for R1698, and introduce a new process for "high crimes" (8401, 8404) * Bring back Promises (8402) * Shorten Rule 1698 (the ossification protection rule) (8403) * As current Notary, R. Lee initiates an election for the office and becomes a candidate. # Games * nch submits updated versions of eir "Sets" economy proposal * The first thread turns into a discussion about the extra work created for the Promotor by proposals submitted after e circulates eir draft distribution. This in turn leads to a proposed contract, "LoAFER", for Agorans to try to help officers keep accurate records. * E also circulates a draft extension that would allow any three cards to be transmuted to one of any kind. * Aris points out a minor scam the Assessor could pull off; nch decides to the bug there for now and fix it later. * R. Lee submits a proposal in which e would win and anyone who voted FOR would get a black ribbon. Thread: "Proposal Bribery" * R. Lee proposes a Flappy Bird tournament. # Culture and History * Aris's proposed reform of Agora's degree system is discussed in the thread "[Proto] College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences". * nch circulates a draft of a thesis about past Agoran economies, asking what kind of information people want, leading to some discussion. Thread: "Thesis Snippet" * G. gives some historical information about Stems and election platforms. * Discussion branches into date formates and the value of idiosyncrasy. * P.S.S. is working on a thesis and asks for thoughts on "technical domains of control". Discussion includes blockchains and rewriting email timestamps. * Patent titles: * The Herald submits a proposal to award the 2016 Silver Quill to ais523 for Proposal 7811, "Winning by apathy". * This follows general discussion of back-awarding Silver Quills for missing years, in which G. recommends Proposal 7811. * In the same discussion, G. also mentions Proposal 7831, a justice system many pieces of which remain in the rules. There is some discussion about bringing back parts of the old justice system based on Cards. * The Herald awards Long Service Awards to Jason (twice), Aris and Falsifian, concluding the process started last week. * There are questions about the names given to different win types in the Herald's monthly report, and the possibility of adding more detail, in thread "[Herald] The Scroll of Agora". # Auctions and zombies * R. Lee objects to ratifying that the May zombie auction worked as intended. * G. proposes to do away with detailed auction rules, and have mechanism determined by the person running the auction together with regulations promulgated by the Treasuror. * Cuddle Beam destroys the Chattelbeam contract which made em a superzombie and through which e and twg won the game earlier. Thread: "humble agoran farmer closes shop (for now) [Attn. Notary]" # Miscellaneous * R. Lee points eir finger a couple of times and learns that twg did in fact cause Cuddle Beam to win. Thread: "TWG fingered" * ATMunn rejoins the game, flipping eir
DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-18..24: # Summary Welcome, Bögtil, and welcome back, grok! Well, it turns out auctions are still broken. Will we ever get them right? G. proposes to just let the auctioneer figure out how to auction things (with some help from regulations). Some interesting proposals this week.Aris proposes a system of budgets and taxation, and nch continues work on eir Sets economy, with much feedback. G. submits a proposal that would attempt to create a contract. A pair of proposals ask you to consider the words "Registror" and "Notory". Aris and P.S.S. submit eir Dark Arts and Treason proposals. There are also many proposals that are fix-ups or repeal some minor, possibly obsolete, rule text. Aris proposes a reform of Agora's degree system, and officer name are gathered for Long Service Awards. CFJ 3831 enters "the mootiest moot ever", and justice is served for a million-year pledge. Four proposals were adopted this week. If you're reading this during the following week, you can find a summary of proposals up for voting in next week's draft at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/blob/master/weekly_summaries/2020-05-25..31 # Special preview: next week's voting * Early next week (2020-05-25), voting began on proposals 8388-8404, including: * The office of the Webmastor (8388) * Stripping old rule text including the Editor and Line-item Veto (8389, 8395, 8399, 8400) * Office renames: Registror and Notory (8390, 8391) * Make crimes are punishable according to the rules at the time of the event (8392) * Election nomination timing fix (8393) * Ban zombies from office (8394; originally attempted in 8228) * Fix auctions (8396) * Define "to refer" (8397) * Make "by announcement" the default mechanism where the rules say "CAN and SHALL" (8398) * Outlaw doing things that would harm Agora if it were not for R1698, and introduce a new process for "high crimes" (8401, 8404) * Bring back Promises (8402) * Shorten Rule 1698 (the ossification protection rule) (8403) # Player registrations * grok, who last played in 2017, re-registers and expresses interest in judging cases. G. refers to em as the judge of the excellent CFJ 3514. * New player Bögtil registers. # Voting * Proposals 8377-8387 are resolved. Adopted proposals: * 8377: Adjustments to the justice system: change the burden of proof, and rename a couple of rules. * 8379: Expand the conditions for winning by paradox. * 8381: Award R. Lee the Patent Title of Money Launderer. * 8386: Close a loophole for judges. * The Promotor points out the distribution of Proposal 8387 got somewhat close to being self-ratified. # Culture * The Herald announces intent to award "Long Service Award" patent titles, after receiving a list of long-term office holders from the ADoP. Threads: "[Herald] Petition of the Associate Director of Personnel", "[Herald, attn: PM, Speaker] Long Service Awards" * There's discussion of awarding titles missing from the past. * Aris proposes a reform of Agora's degree system, adding arts degrees, adding more detail, and renaming "Doctor" to "Doctorate". Thread: "College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences" # Auctions and zombies * G. notices that auctions are broken because all auctions end immediately. Thread: "Do all auctions end immediately?" * Aris says it has been noticed before. * grok proposes an interim fix while G. works on a larger auction overhaul. Thread: "[Proposal] Auction End Clarification" * Falsifian announces intent to ratify without objection that the May zombie auction didn't end before the first bid. Thread: "May Auction Ratification" * G. circulates some draft text for overhauling how auctions work, since there have been many problems with them. Partial credit to earlier language by Alexis. Thread: "Auction overhaul first cut" * There's a side discussion about auctioning off switch states, since zombie ownership is currently represented by switches. ais523 suggests allowing Agora to create Promises. * G. drafts a proposal for relating assets to switches. Thread: "keys". * Jason circulates draft text for handling zombie ownership with assets instead of switches, which could simplify zombie auctions. The assets are called talismans, after a contract Warrigal created earlier. Thread: "[proto] Talismans" # Rules questions * Jason judges CFJ 3833, on attempting to submit a proposal with an incorrect attribute. E circulated a draft last week. * Can Aris refer a proposal to a chamber using those words? P.S.S. proposes to just add the definition to the rules. * G. submits a proposal that attempts to create a contract. Thread: "Protos: Referral and High Crimes" * Murphy judges CFJ 3836 true: a CFJ R. Lee called would make em eligible to win by paradox if it had a
DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-11..17: # Summary Last Week in Agora is back to report on an Agora abuzz with activity. This week, Cuddle Beam appeals to Agorans to keep better historical records. Fortunately, much our history is still in living memory, and G. recounts some tales from the past. Continuing our traditions to mark the passage of time, the final Patent Titles for 2019 from Awards Month are awarded. Agorans continue trying to be clever. R. Lee tries hard to get a paradox victory out of the proposal "A Coin Award" but fails. A variety of clever proposals are circulated, including a promising new economy, a new crime of Treason, and discussion of having a Webmastor or a Reportor. Dave, one of our Watchers, suggests that Agora could get real. The usual varity of rules questions are raised, and a decision that seemed settled may be entered into moot. Possible up-and-comings to keep an eye out for: the rise of the Dragon Corporation (after nearly becoming ashes), and talk of a rejuvination of the Agoran MUD. Buy some shares of DRGN, and help us pick a time to meet in the MUD! Zombie auctions are finally working again. And as always, don't forget to vote! Proposals 8377-8387 are being decided. # Voting and elections * Voting begins on proposals 8377-8387, including: * Adjustments to the justice system. (8377, 8378) * Proposals related to R. Lee's attempted win by paradox. (8379, 8380, 8381) * Criminalizing harming Agora (8384 and 8387, except 8387 wasn't successfully distributed) * Miscellaneous: The Webmastor (8382); Table tennis (8383); destroying the Dragon Corporation (8385); closing a judicial loophole (8386). * Publius Scribonius Scholasticus becomes the only candidate for Herald and is elected. (The previous Herald, Alexis, deregistered on May 3.) # Culture * Two of the Awards Month titles are awarded, both to Falsifian: Employee of the Year (thread: "[ADoP] Cracking rocks") and 2019 Wooden Gavel (thread: "[Arbitor] Wood Gavel award"). (The Silver Quill was awarded to G. on April 27. The Golden Glove doesn't seem to have happened this year.) # History * Cuddle Beam starts a discussion on how Agora could keep a better record of its history, with comparison to Blognomic. Thread: "Research Request: Economics" * G. gives history lessons on the threads "Protos: Coins have Value", "Proto: Sets" and "crimes and infractions". # Proposals * nch proposes a new office, the Webmastor. (Draft circulated last week.) There's some discussion about maintaining the website. * Trigon proposes requiring the first two public messages each day to begin with "ping" and "pong", respectively. Thread: "[attn Promotor] Ping!" * Discussion continues from last week on the Reportor role and alternatives to making it an office. Thread: "Protos: Two Small Offices" * Outlawing harm to Agora: * P.S.S. proposes outlawing actions that would ossify Agora if it were not for Rule 1698. Thread: "[Attn: Rulekeepor, Promotor] Proposal and Cleanings" * Aris proposes an alternative in thread "[Proto] Defense Against the Dark Arts" * G. proposes another alternative, leading to further discussion. Subject line starts as "[Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387" and changes to "Treason". * P.S.S. circulates some draft proposals that would make some things cost coins. Thread: "Protos: Coins have Value" * nch circulates an economy idea based around four new assets, based on arguments e made in the thread P.S.S. started. Lots of discussion. Thread: "Proto: Sets" * G. drafts a possible side-game to go with it. Thread: "a side-game for sets". * Jason proposes to retire the Dragon Corporation. Subject: "[Notary] Weekly Nonsense (Report) [attn Promotor]". Instead, e and a couple of others end up reviving it. * G. proposes to remove some old protections against abuse of Referee power. Thrad: "[proposal] no-longer needed protection" * R. Lee proposes to rename the offices of Registrar and Notary to Registror and Notory. Thread: "Renaming Sillyness (At AI 3, of course)" * Aris circulates a draft proposal to bring back an old Agoran system of promises. * Jason proposes to make penalties for breaking the rules depend on the rules at the time the violation occurred. Thread: "[proposal] Prior violations" # Ideas * Dave (a Watcher) suggests getting Agora involved with contracts and behaviour outside Agora's usual domain, leading to some discussion. Thread: "coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force" # Rules questions and bugs * Does writing actions on lines starting with "> " make them fail? Probably not necessarily. Thread: "[Registrar] May Zombie Auction" * Is Aris's definition of "to refer a proposal to a chamber" now understood in a generic Agoran context? Aris calls CFJ 3834