Re: DIS: 1st proposal
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the rules (especially rules with power less than 2, that of rule 2145, Partnerships) can't just create partnerships; to be a partnership, something has to be a binding agreement governed by the rules which devolves its legal obligations onto a subset of its parties, numbering at least two, collectively to be a partnership. It works when Rule 2169 does it, doesn't it? I don't believe the rules (especially those with power below 3) can just create binding agreements among people, as Every person has the right to refuse to become party to a binding agreement. The absence of a person's explicit, willful consent shall be considered a refusal. --Ivan Hope CXXVII
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:12 AM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe the rules (especially those with power below 3) can just create binding agreements among people, as Every person has the right to refuse to become party to a binding agreement. The absence of a person's explicit, willful consent shall be considered a refusal. The proposed rule doesn't claim to bind people to the partnership without explicit consent. There's an issue of timing, where the partnership is claimed to exist while it still has no parties, but that could be ironed out. In any case, the new version dodges these issues. -root
DIS: 1st proposal
This is just an idea I'm playing around with at the moment and does not meet the requirements of rule 106 yet to be a proposal. Anyone have thoughts on this: Amend rule: 1922 To append the following text: (g) Official Greeter, to be awarded by the IADoP, to any player who announces eir intent to become a greeter with Agoran consent (ratio 1). This title is to be revoked by the IADoP only following a judgement of TRUE on a CFJ on the statement X did not perform duties one would expect of a greeter, where X is a player currently holding the patent title of Official Greeter. Should one or more offices with duties of greeting and helping new players be created, any player not currently holding that office will lose the title of Official Greeter, and any player holding that office shall gain the title of Official Greeter. Thereafter, the title shall be granted and revoked as necessary to ensure that all holders of that office shall also have the title and all players not holding that office shall not have the title. -- Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
Chester Mealer wrote: (g) Official Greeter, to be awarded by the IADoP, to any player who announces eir intent to become a greeter with Agoran consent (ratio 1). Why do it as a patent title when we have an office mechanism? -zefram
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
Because it wasn't well enough thought through, that's why i made sure it was not a proposal. I figured the patent title would let it be only semi-official and allow for multiple greeters. I was under the impression only one player could fill an office. -- Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
cdm014 wrote: I was under the impression only one player could fill an office. But offices can be (and have been) filled by partnerships.
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 16:48:00 Ed Murphy wrote: cdm014 wrote: I was under the impression only one player could fill an office. But offices can be (and have been) filled by partnerships. Yeah, I'd definitely go with an office for that. But I like the idea. avpx
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
(Still not a proposal) revised after some discussion now version 2.1 Agoran Welcoming Committee 1. This creates an office called Agoran Greeter. 2. This office is an imposed office. 3. This office shall remain vacant until imposed upon a partnership entitled Agoran Welcoming Committee. Should a partnership be so named, and meet the other requirements for eligibility, this office shall be imposed upon that partnership. 4. To be eligible for this office the partnership's obligations must include all of the following: A. Greet all new players. B. Engage in contact with new players to assist them. C. Engage in contact with new players to ensure a positive experience. There now this should provide for an office for greeters and ensure they have the proper obligations. -- Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DIS: 1st proposal
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the rules (especially rules with power less than 2, that of rule 2145, Partnerships) can't just create partnerships; to be a partnership, something has to be a binding agreement governed by the rules which devolves its legal obligations onto a subset of its parties, numbering at least two, collectively to be a partnership. It works when Rule 2169 does it, doesn't it? (By the way, is it the subset or the parties themselves that must number at least two?) The subset. -root
