Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 01:30, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, > however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody > intends their statenents to be true. If it's still a worry, we could require all game messages to begin with a disclaimer that they might be full of lies. - Falsifian
Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:32 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 9:29 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > > Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, > > however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody > > intends their statenents to be true. > > > > Acting on eir own behalf is fine terminology that we have used before. > > > See CFJ 2637 [0]. > > [0]: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?2637 Overturned by modern game custom, I believe. -Aris
Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
Looks good to me. Maybe a few typos here and there, but nothing game-breaking. Looking forward to playing! On 6/27/2020 7:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, primarily those of EPCC [0] and the official rules [1] — as the regulations for this year's Birthday Tournament. 0. P.S.S. CANNOT win this Tournament or become a Contestant. P.S.S. is the Gamemaster and Judge of this game. 1. Until July 7 or 7 days after the promulgation of these rules, whichever is later, any person CAN enter the contest (becoming a Contestant) by announcement, on eir own behalf, as long as no more than six other persons have already done so. 2. The Gamemaster CAN cause any person to cease to be a Contestant by announcement. The Gamemaster CAN cause any consenting person to become a Contestant by announcement. The Gamemaster CAN, by announcement, amend the gamestate by substituting one Contestant into all instances of another Contestant. If fewer than seven persons have become Contestants, the Gamemaster CAN replace the text of these regulations with appropriate regulations for a Nomic-inspired game, such as FRC, an experimental Nomic, or a sub-Nomic. The Gamemaster CAN amend the text of these regulations arbitrarily in order to prevent breaches of Agoran custom or rules. The Gamemaster SHOULD NOT take any actions permitted by this section unless it is in the best interests of the game. 3. When all contestants except one have been eliminated from the contest, the victor is (1) the last contestant remaining. The judge SHALL then, with 2 days notice, announce them as winners, whereupon they win the tournament and the tournament is concluded. If the judge believes that more than one person is deserving of the win, e CAN announce them all as winners. The judge SHOULD award a badge to all participants in the Tournament, broadly construed, after the conclusion of the Tournament unless it has not been completed in a satisfactory manner. 4. The judge is the final arbitor on matters of this tournament, and eir decisions can overturned if and only if a CFJ finds eir decisions were made with arbitrary or capricious disregard for the terms of these regulations. The judge shall adjudicate these regulations in an equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the intent of the clauses and the fair treatment of all parties. 5. Sections numbered 0 through 5 CANNOT be amended except according to the procedures established by Section 2 or the rules of Agora. 6. The game SHALL be conducted on a map mechanically indistinguishable from that appearing at [2]. The Gamemaster SHALL assign Great Powers to Contestants according to an equitable and random method. 7. Contestants may seek the assistance of non-Contestants. If any do so, they SHALL notify the Judge and publicly announce the identities of any such non-Contestants and what assistance they will provide. This could include negotiating on eir behalf, providing feedback on orders, or drafting proposals on eir behalf. 8. At any time, any Contestant CAN submit a Proposal to change the rules by announcement. Any Contestant CAN withdraw any Proposal e has submitted by announcement. When a Proposal has been submitted but not withdrawn, any Contestant other than the Proposer CAN privately send a vote to the Judge. When a Proposal has received at least three non-withdrawn votes in favor, the Judge SHALL, in a timely fashion, and CAN enact the proposal by publishing the new text of the regulations and the number of votes in favor and against. The Judge SHALL NOT reveal the votes of specific Contestants. 9. If in the past three game-years, no province has changed ownership, the Gamemaster CAN declare the game a draw, with 2 days notice, concluding the Tournament and announcing all remaining Contestants as winners. 10. Contestants SHALL NOT offer favors outside of this Tournament in order to influence the outcome of it. Contestants CAN and SHOULD lie and engage in deceit for personal gain. 11. There are two types of units: Armies and Fleets. 12. All units have the same strength. 13. There can only be one unit in a province at a time. 14. At the start of the game, each Great Power controls three supply centers, with the exception of Russia, which controls four. These are allocated according to the table shown in the official rules. 15. At the beginning of each turn, there is a period, lasting from 0 UTC until 24 UTC on the same calendar day, in which negotiations should occur. Following this, there is a period until 12 UTC on the following day, during which orders CAN be submitted privately to the Gamemaster. The next turn will begin at 24 UTC on that day, by which time the Gamemaster SHALL have resolved the orders, according to the rules as they were
Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
On 6/27/20 9:29 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, > however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody > intends their statenents to be true. > > Acting on eir own behalf is fine terminology that we have used before. See CFJ 2637 [0]. [0]: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?2637 -- Jason Cobb
Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody intends their statenents to be true. Acting on eir own behalf is fine terminology that we have used before. On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 11:21 am Jason Cobb via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 7:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. > > > > I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from > > previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, > > primarily those of EPCC [0] and the official rules [1] — as the > > regulations for this year's Birthday Tournament. > > > > 0. P.S.S. CANNOT win this Tournament or become a Contestant. P.S.S. is > > the Gamemaster and Judge of this game. > > > > 1. Until July 7 or 7 days after the promulgation of these rules, > > whichever is later, any person CAN enter the contest (becoming a > > Contestant) by announcement, on eir own behalf, as long as no more than > > six other persons have already done so. > > > A person does not act on eir own behalf, e acts as emself. > > > > 10. Contestants SHALL NOT offer favors outside of this Tournament in > > order to influence the outcome of it. Contestants CAN and SHOULD lie and > > engage in deceit for personal gain. > > > Is this enough to override No Faking? > > > Otherwise, this all looks perfectly fine to me, a person who has never > played diplomacy before. > > -- > Jason Cobb > >
Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
On 6/27/20 7:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. > > I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from > previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, > primarily those of EPCC [0] and the official rules [1] — as the > regulations for this year's Birthday Tournament. > > 0. P.S.S. CANNOT win this Tournament or become a Contestant. P.S.S. is > the Gamemaster and Judge of this game. > > 1. Until July 7 or 7 days after the promulgation of these rules, > whichever is later, any person CAN enter the contest (becoming a > Contestant) by announcement, on eir own behalf, as long as no more than > six other persons have already done so. A person does not act on eir own behalf, e acts as emself. > 10. Contestants SHALL NOT offer favors outside of this Tournament in > order to influence the outcome of it. Contestants CAN and SHOULD lie and > engage in deceit for personal gain. Is this enough to override No Faking? Otherwise, this all looks perfectly fine to me, a person who has never played diplomacy before. -- Jason Cobb
DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament
Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, primarily those of EPCC [0] and the official rules [1] — as the regulations for this year's Birthday Tournament. 0. P.S.S. CANNOT win this Tournament or become a Contestant. P.S.S. is the Gamemaster and Judge of this game. 1. Until July 7 or 7 days after the promulgation of these rules, whichever is later, any person CAN enter the contest (becoming a Contestant) by announcement, on eir own behalf, as long as no more than six other persons have already done so. 2. The Gamemaster CAN cause any person to cease to be a Contestant by announcement. The Gamemaster CAN cause any consenting person to become a Contestant by announcement. The Gamemaster CAN, by announcement, amend the gamestate by substituting one Contestant into all instances of another Contestant. If fewer than seven persons have become Contestants, the Gamemaster CAN replace the text of these regulations with appropriate regulations for a Nomic-inspired game, such as FRC, an experimental Nomic, or a sub-Nomic. The Gamemaster CAN amend the text of these regulations arbitrarily in order to prevent breaches of Agoran custom or rules. The Gamemaster SHOULD NOT take any actions permitted by this section unless it is in the best interests of the game. 3. When all contestants except one have been eliminated from the contest, the victor is (1) the last contestant remaining. The judge SHALL then, with 2 days notice, announce them as winners, whereupon they win the tournament and the tournament is concluded. If the judge believes that more than one person is deserving of the win, e CAN announce them all as winners. The judge SHOULD award a badge to all participants in the Tournament, broadly construed, after the conclusion of the Tournament unless it has not been completed in a satisfactory manner. 4. The judge is the final arbitor on matters of this tournament, and eir decisions can overturned if and only if a CFJ finds eir decisions were made with arbitrary or capricious disregard for the terms of these regulations. The judge shall adjudicate these regulations in an equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the intent of the clauses and the fair treatment of all parties. 5. Sections numbered 0 through 5 CANNOT be amended except according to the procedures established by Section 2 or the rules of Agora. 6. The game SHALL be conducted on a map mechanically indistinguishable from that appearing at [2]. The Gamemaster SHALL assign Great Powers to Contestants according to an equitable and random method. 7. Contestants may seek the assistance of non-Contestants. If any do so, they SHALL notify the Judge and publicly announce the identities of any such non-Contestants and what assistance they will provide. This could include negotiating on eir behalf, providing feedback on orders, or drafting proposals on eir behalf. 8. At any time, any Contestant CAN submit a Proposal to change the rules by announcement. Any Contestant CAN withdraw any Proposal e has submitted by announcement. When a Proposal has been submitted but not withdrawn, any Contestant other than the Proposer CAN privately send a vote to the Judge. When a Proposal has received at least three non-withdrawn votes in favor, the Judge SHALL, in a timely fashion, and CAN enact the proposal by publishing the new text of the regulations and the number of votes in favor and against. The Judge SHALL NOT reveal the votes of specific Contestants. 9. If in the past three game-years, no province has changed ownership, the Gamemaster CAN declare the game a draw, with 2 days notice, concluding the Tournament and announcing all remaining Contestants as winners. 10. Contestants SHALL NOT offer favors outside of this Tournament in order to influence the outcome of it. Contestants CAN and SHOULD lie and engage in deceit for personal gain. 11. There are two types of units: Armies and Fleets. 12. All units have the same strength. 13. There can only be one unit in a province at a time. 14. At the start of the game, each Great Power controls three supply centers, with the exception of Russia, which controls four. These are allocated according to the table shown in the official rules. 15. At the beginning of each turn, there is a period, lasting from 0 UTC until 24 UTC on the same calendar day, in which negotiations should occur. Following this, there is a period until 12 UTC on the following day, during which orders CAN be submitted privately to the Gamemaster. The next turn will begin at 24 UTC on that day, by which time the Gamemaster SHALL have resolved the orders, according to the rules as they were at the end of the ordering period and announced the new state of the game. Orders CAN be submitted during the negotiations period and can be changed at any time when orders could be submitted.
