Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
Given the unusual complexity of these cases, I'd suggest that whoever is assigned to judge them discuss eir proposed judgement before making it official. E is of course free to act with judicial independence, I just think that this might help avoid having a ton of motions to reconsider. -Aris On

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-12 Thread D. Margaux
How about: 1. “All pure active players could have won by announcement on the Effective Date under rule 2580” and 2. “Trigon, twg, D. Margaux, G., and L could win the game by announcement under rule 2580 on the Effective Date after the expungement of Trigon’s blot” and 3. “Trigon, twg, and L

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-12 Thread Reuben Staley
The second one could use an "only". On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 08:01 D Margaux wrote: > I would suggest a slight amendment and calling both CFJs at the same time, > with the suggestion that both be assigned to the same judge. Probably most > efficient that way. My suggested CFJs are: > > > “All pure

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
The term of art for this is to request "linked" CFJs (this used to be rules-official, but now it's just game custom). On Fri, 12 Oct 2018, D Margaux wrote: > I would suggest a slight amendment and calling both CFJs at the same time, > with the suggestion that both be assigned to the same

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-12 Thread D Margaux
I would suggest a slight amendment and calling both CFJs at the same time, with the suggestion that both be assigned to the same judge. Probably most efficient that way. My suggested CFJs are: > “All pure active players could have won by announcement on the Effective Date > under rule 2580"

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-11 Thread Reuben Staley
Perhaps we could call a CFJ about the set vs. individual interpretations and then, if set is chosen, we could call another one about clusivity. A potential wording for the first would be "All players could have won by announcement under rule 2580" and one for the second could be "VJ Rada, D

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-11 Thread D Margaux
I think this is an admirably clear way to put it. I personally had in mind the set/inclusive interpretation. The “individual” interpretation would make each slate’s winning chances depend in part upon which slates happen to have impure players. That seems undesirable to me, because the

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, ATMunn wrote: > On 10/9/2018 8:44 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > ATMunn (A, C): I win the game. > I realized also, don't I have a blot? I assume I can expunge it, but I haven't > yet. Missed that - unfortunately the rule self-repealed now so it's too late to try again. > >

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-09 Thread Reuben Staley
I understand more theories are the last thing we probably need right now but oh well. Let me make a chart for reference. A and B B and C C and A - - - VJ Rada L.Cuddles Margaux CoronaAris PSS TrigonMurphy G.twg ATMunn In

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-09 Thread ATMunn
On 10/9/2018 8:44 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: ATMunn (A, C): I win the game. I realized also, don't I have a blot? I assume I can expunge it, but I haven't yet. If so, for someone in B, that means someone in (A, C) can win, which means someone in (C) can win, does this block people in (B) from

DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
Ok, Here's my catalog of events. Want to see if we can condense cases before figuring out what raft of CFJs are needed. Corona, Trigon, VJ Rada start out with Blots, therefore CANNOT win. Announcements made (including Slates of announcers): Trigon (B, C): I cause the Slate B players to