Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9182-9183

2024-09-17 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/17/24 4:52 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: I don't like the perverse incentives that crystals create. If someone else writes a proposal that touches a lot of rules, then I'm incentivized to vote AGAINST that proposal for economic reasons, even if it's good. I try not to do that,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4094 reassiged to ais523

2024-09-17 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
Much obliged. I tip my knitted cap to you. On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:16 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-09-17 at 00:53 +0100, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- > official wrote: > > I recuse 4st from CFJ 4094 on grounds of lateness. > > > > I ass

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9182-9183

2024-09-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/17/24 16:48, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 3:23 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >>> 9183~ snail 1.0 Creation Crystals >> AGAINST. I continue to not like crystals. >> >> > Do you have any sug

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9182-9183

2024-09-17 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 3:23 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > 9183~ snail 1.0 Creation Crystals > > AGAINST. I continue to not like crystals. > > Do you have any suggestions on how to make crystals better? -- snail

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4092 assigned to Gaelan

2024-09-16 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2024-09-16 at 19:39 +0100, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: > I find trivially FALSE, per qenya. > > I self-file a motion to reconsider, because that’s a cop-out and we all know > it. > > (Apologies for the extended delay in judgement; I’ll try to deliver a > substantive judgeme

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Balancing creation and destruction

2024-09-16 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 4:23 PM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Also rule creation doesn't come with IDs until the rulekeepor assigns them, > so I don't think it'd even work? > > -- > 4st > putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile > Crystals

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Balancing creation and destruction

2024-09-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Also rule creation doesn't come with IDs until the rulekeepor assigns them, so I don't think it'd even work? -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 2:21 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > Against! The purpose of crystals is to encourage rule

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Balancing creation and destruction

2024-09-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Against! The purpose of crystals is to encourage rule destruction, rule creation is heretical!! -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 1:55 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: >

DIS: Re: BUS: Second star to the right (attn Absurdor)

2024-09-16 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder whist doing a handstand —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Edward Murphy via agora-business Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 5:10:12 PM To: Agora Business Cc: Edward Murphy Subject: BUS: Second star to the right (attn Absurdor) I push

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Multidimensional Bouldering

2024-09-13 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
Tracked by who? The Absurdor, like the Boulder’s Height? If so, please state that. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 16:35, 4st nomic via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 16:35, 4st nomic via agora-business < wrote: > The Boulder's Abstrusity is a singleton

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] responding to zen

2024-09-09 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 12:00 -0700, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > If snail has won the game and I can do so, I grant them the patent title of > Champion. > (I think this is trivially true, but there is an open CFJ). The CFJ has been judged; snail did win the game and this is EFFECTIVE. ~qe

DIS: Re: BUS: Stones: One Last Hurrah (@Stonemason Collector Illuminator)

2024-09-09 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/8/24 5:16 PM, Mischief via agora-business wrote: I wield the Minty Stone, specifying myself *sigh* this failed, as the Minty Stone was still hot. -- Mischief Collector Hat: steampunk hat Vitality: ghostly Bang holdings: 0

DIS: Re: BUS: Voting is confusing (@Arbitor)

2024-09-09 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/8/24 6:08 PM, Paul McDowell via agora-business wrote: I CFJ on the statement "I owe Janet and Mischief one spendie each." I bar Janet from this CFJ due to eir obvious conflict of interest (I would bar Mischief as well, but I can only bar one person...) Something worth pointing out to the e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Stonemason Pro Tem's Report

2024-09-08 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Mischief wrote: On 9/1/24 11:49 AM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: CoE: The ownership of the Recursion Stone is disputed, and depends on the outcome of CFJ 4093. (I know you know this, but as far as I can tell snail would self-ratify as the owner if I didn't CoE, because the report doesn't m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Juggling

2024-09-06 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
> On Sep 6, 2024, at 11:20, juan via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion [2024-09-06 06:29]: >> Example: I push the boulder. > > It is ambiguous if your are exemplifying the action itself or simply the > phrasing of the action, so the announcement is not unambiguo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Juggling

2024-09-06 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion [2024-09-06 06:29]: > Example: I push the boulder. It is ambiguous if your are exemplifying the action itself or simply the phrasing of the action, so the announcement is not unambiguous, and fails. -- juan Absurdor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Juggling

2024-09-05 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
If I’m not mistaken, e already tagged the relevant officers in a reply to this message. - oliver.n On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 07:29, Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 07:29, Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion < wrote: > Send to Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Juggling

2024-09-05 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
behalf of Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:22:56 AM To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org Cc: Oliver Nguyen Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: Juggling Good. That means I own the Hot Potato Stone, and therefore, have owned at least one stone. Also, how did you push the

DIS: Re: BUS: Juggling

2024-09-05 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
Good. That means I own the Hot Potato Stone, and therefore, have owned at least one stone. Also, how did you push the boulder? On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 22:54, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 22:54, Katherina Walshe-Grey via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vibe Check

2024-09-02 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
No, I knew this, I just wanted to make my intent to object public. On Tue, 3 Sept 2024, 12:01 pm Aris via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 6:23 PM Matt Smyth via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 2, 2024,

DIS: Re: BUS: Vibe Check

2024-09-02 Thread Aris via agora-discussion
On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 6:23 PM Matt Smyth via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Sep 2, 2024, at 18:00, secretsnail9 via agora-business < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > I intend, with notice, to make mqyhlkahu inactive. > > > I object to this inten

DIS: Re: BUS: Vibe Check

2024-09-02 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/2/24 6:13 PM, Paul McDowell via agora-business wrote: Who is LiterallyAmbibuous? That one fails obviously Or maybe it's literallyAmbitious. E was quite an infamous go-getter back in the day. -- Mischief Collector Hat: steampunk hat Vitality: alive Bang holdings: 1

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vibe Check

2024-09-02 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
it’s obviously LiterallyAmbidextrous Sent from my teakettle > On Sep 2, 2024, at 18:12, Mischief via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 9/2/24 5:59 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > >> I intend, with notice, to make LiterallyAmbibuous inactive. > > Is that literallyAmbiguous, lite

DIS: Re: BUS: Vibe Check

2024-09-02 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/2/24 5:59 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: I intend, with notice, to make LiterallyAmbibuous inactive. Is that literallyAmbiguous, literallyAmphibious, or someone else? FWIW, l-Ambiguous just did a stamp / Gray ribbon trade with Murphy a couple days ago. -- Mischief Collecto

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9168-9178

2024-09-02 Thread Lily Long via agora-discussion
I vote as follows: > 9168~ Kate2.0 Erosion in Geological Rhyme As a newcomer here, there's not much I can say For a long-standing piece such as Stones; but to play With some fresh toys, and steer their unfolding, is tempting. I'm sorry to ais, as I aid in preempting eir

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-09-02 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
As I see it, I have two options: * Wait for you to clear the office and then deputise; or * Deputise immediately before you can clear the office. Which do you recommend? On Monday, 2 September 2024 at 11:49, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 9/2/24 5:54 AM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-dis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-09-02 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/2/24 5:54 AM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: Would that interfere with my intent to deputise or not? On Saturday, 31 August 2024 at 01:35, Mischief via agora-business wrote: I announce my intent to cause the office of Spendor to become vacant without 2 objections, per rule 10

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-09-02 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
Would that interfere with my intent to deputise or not? On Saturday, 31 August 2024 at 01:35, Mischief via agora-business wrote: > I announce my intent to cause the office of Spendor to > become vacant without 2 objections, per rule 1006.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Highest Number Game] Commitation

2024-09-02 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
I knew it wasn’t that simple… On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 10:04, secretsnail9 via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 10:04, secretsnail9 via agora-business < wrote: > I reveal this secret number (24), specifying its plaintext as "the secret > number is 24 t

DIS: Re: BUS: [Highest Number Game] Commitation

2024-09-02 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
Did you mean SHA-256, or just SHA-56? On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 00:57, secretsnail9 via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 00:57, secretsnail9 via agora-business < wrote: > I declare a secret number, with the following fingerprint (SHA-56): > > 2b4e9191a8

DIS: Re: BUS: Prime minister (again)

2024-09-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think you forgot to appoint winners to the position of speaker, so that is at least one valid reason to not vote for you? :p -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Sun, Sep 1, 2024, 6:24 PM Jimmy via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I become a

DIS: Re: BUS: Prime minister (again)

2024-09-01 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
But I like chaos... No vote from me. On Mon, 2 Sept 2024, 11:24 am Jimmy via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I become a candidate in the ongoing election for prime minister. Hey man. I > didnt do anything bad last time. A vote for me is a vote for peaceful > times. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Sisyphean Endeavor

2024-09-01 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
With panache > On Sep 1, 2024, at 17:32, Matt Smyth via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Yes, but how? > >> On Mon, 2 Sept 2024, 5:47 am Lily Long via agora-business, < >> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >> I push the boulder. >>

DIS: Re: BUS: A Sisyphean Endeavor

2024-09-01 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
Yes, but how? On Mon, 2 Sept 2024, 5:47 am Lily Long via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I push the boulder. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Stonemason Pro Tem's Report

2024-09-01 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/1/24 11:49 AM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: CoE: The ownership of the Recursion Stone is disputed, and depends on the outcome of CFJ 4093. (I know you know this, but as far as I can tell snail would self-ratify as the owner if I didn't CoE, because the report doesn't make it clear that

DIS: Re: BUS: Vertical speed, GO! (attn Absurdor)

2024-09-01 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder horizontally —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Edward Murphy via agora-business Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 1:10:23 PM To: Agora Business Cc: Edward Murphy Subject: BUS: Vertical speed, GO! (attn Absurdor) I push the boulder. --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@stonemason, @Spendor)

2024-09-01 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 9/1/24 6:58 AM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: This fails. You spent 20 spendies on stones in your message at 00:00 (UTC), leaving you with none. On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 01:03, secretsnail9 via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 01:03, se

DIS: Re: BUS: (@stonemason, @Spendor)

2024-09-01 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
This fails. You spent 20 spendies on stones in your message at 00:00 (UTC), leaving you with none. On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 01:03, secretsnail9 via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 01:03, secretsnail9 via agora-business < wrote: > i pay a fee of 10 sp

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Stonemason) Using my spendies

2024-09-01 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
You should have tagged @Spendor, but it doesn’t really matter now, because of the reset On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 00:57, secretsnail9 via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 00:57, secretsnail9 via agora-business < wrote: > I have 18 spendies as far as I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-08-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/31/24 8:16 AM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: Do you think I should deputise for Spendor or not? I don't think you can at the moment -- that was the crux of CFJ 4083 [1] and the reason for proposal 9161. If the Spendor had other duties you could deputise on one of them, but it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-08-31 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
Do you think I should deputise for Spendor or not? On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 12:42, Mischief via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 12:42, Mischief via agora-discussion < wrote: > On 8/31/24 4:50 AM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-08-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/31/24 4:50 AM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: The intent will become ripe in 4 days, then it’s 7 days for a sortition, so there will be at least 11 days between now and when Spendies actually start working again. That’s a bit too long… I think I have 30 Spendies, but who knows

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Spendor) A petition

2024-08-31 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
The intent will become ripe in 4 days, then it’s 7 days for a sortition, so there will be at least 11 days between now and when Spendies actually start working again. That’s a bit too long… I think I have 30 Spendies, but who knows? Also, with regards to the (probable) upcoming sortition: > Any

DIS: Re: BUS: [Bang] Match Triggered!

2024-08-30 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
> (Alive, 2 Bangs) How do you have 2 Bangs? On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 4:36 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 3:52 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > The CFJ muddled things a bit, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Adjusting the Money Supply

2024-08-29 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/29/24 6:10 PM, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: If crystal liquidation fails and this passes, that would not be good I assume most voting against crystal liquidation would vote against this too. Or maybe folks want a tighter money supply -- Mischief Collector Hat: steampunk ha

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Adjusting the Money Supply

2024-08-29 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
If crystal liquidation fails and this passes, that would not be good On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 21:42, Mischief via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 21:42, Mischief via agora-business < wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > "Adjusting the Money

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Crystal liquidation

2024-08-29 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
That is true. Should it be applied together with the other balancing change or should the new change replace the old change? - oliver.n On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 15:55, 4st nomic via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 15:55, 4st nomic via agora-dis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Crystal liquidation

2024-08-29 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 12:55 AM Oliver Nguyen via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I perform these actions, in this order: > > * I withdraw the proposal "Crystal liquidation". > > * I submit the following proposal: > > {{{ > > Title: Crystal liquidation > > Adoption index:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Crystal liquidation

2024-08-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/29/24 03:49, Oliver Nguyen via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > {{{ > > Title: Crystal liquidation > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: oliver.n > Co-author(s): 4st > > Amend Rule 2685 "Crystals" by inserting the following text after the end of > the rule: > > { > Once

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Crystal liquidation

2024-08-29 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
I submit the following proposal: Title: Crystal liquidation Adoption index: 1.0 Author: oliver.n Co-author(s): 4st Amend Rule 2685 "Crystals" by inserting the following text after the end of the rule: { Once per week, a player CAN liquidate a specified crystal that they own by announcement. Do

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Crystal liquidation

2024-08-28 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 5:37 PM Oliver Nguyen via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Title: Crystal liquidation > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: oliver.n > Co-author(s): 4st > > Amend Rule 2685 "Crystals" by inserting the following text aft

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
> On Aug 28, 2024, at 17:43, Mischief via agora-discussion > wrote: > > What if I cast a ballot for 4st > LiterallyAmbiguous? > > What if I cast a ballot for 4st > LiterallyAmbiguous > > yet-to-be-announced-candidate? > > Voting "for" someone can be a slippery concept if you're not using >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/28/24 5:34 PM, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion wrote: Oh dear... But how does the voting method being instant runoff make problems for me? What if I cast a ballot for 4st > LiterallyAmbiguous? What if I cast a ballot for 4st > LiterallyAmbiguous > yet-to-be-announced-candidate? Vot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 5:37 PM Mischief via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Maybe there's another out in the rules that I'm not aware of, though. > Nah I definitely painted myself into a corner on that one.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/28/24 5:23 PM, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion wrote: Does it? If I run out, it becomes impossible for me to uphold the next instance of the pledge, even if I try to. Surely if it's impossible to uphold a pledge, one can't be considered to have broken it. Rule 2531 (Defendant's Rights)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
Oh dear... But how does the voting method being instant runoff make problems for me? On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 5:31 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2024-08-28 at 17:23 -0400, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2024-08-28 at 17:23 -0400, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 5:01 PM Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > If you run out of spendies, that’s a massive issue > > > > Does it? If I run out, it becomes impossi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/28/24 4:24 PM, Paul McDowell via agora-business wrote: If I have not already made a binding pledge to bribe... I mean *reward* everyone who votes for me with one spendie each, I do so now. Spendies will be paid to each recipient within one Agoran week of their vote being cast. Breaking this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 5:01 PM Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > If you run out of spendies, that’s a massive issue > Does it? If I run out, it becomes impossible for me to uphold the next instance of the pledge, even if I try to. Surely if it's impos

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
If you run out of spendies, that’s a massive issue On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 21:24, Paul McDowell via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 21:24, Paul McDowell via agora-business < wrote: > If I have not already made a binding pledge to bribe... I mean *r

DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Oh yeah?! Pledge it. Bind yourself to the arcane Agoran law thru the demonic power of the Pledge. :P -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, 12:43 PM Paul McDowell via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > That's far too much power f

DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Prime Minister election

2024-08-28 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
I think that holding four offices at once (eir three existing ones, in addition to Prime Minister) would impair eir ability to perform all of them effectively. - oliver.n On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 20:21, 4st nomic via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at

DIS: Re: BUS: Yes Minister

2024-08-28 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:55 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Becoming a candidate fails, as the election has not yet been initiated. > oops, that makes sense

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-28 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
NttPF. Is that even permitted? On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 17:27, Lily Long via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 17:27, Lily Long via agora-discussion < wrote: > I object to this, and all future motions to declare Apathy in which I am > not specifi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-28 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/28/24 12:27, Lily Long via agora-discussion wrote: > I object to this, and all future motions to declare Apathy in which I am > not specified. So, unfortunately this was sent to agora-discussion, so it doesn't do anything. Additionally, even if it was sent to agora-business, you can't object

DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-28 Thread Lily Long via agora-discussion
I object to this, and all future motions to declare Apathy in which I am not specified. On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 4:00 PM Paul McDowell via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Without objection, I declare Apathy, specifying myself and the following > players: > murphy > amdw42

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What

2024-08-27 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
Besides which, I had reason to believe it would pass, since everyone benefits. Who would object to a free win, I thought? nomicsare fun to test. -- juniper On Wed, 28 Aug 2024, 7:35 am Matt Smyth via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Oh. I just wanted to see if it woul

DIS: Re: BUS: What

2024-08-27 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
Oh. I just wanted to see if it would work, I agree that everyone winning isn't really winning... On Wed, 28 Aug 2024, 7:33 am Agora amdw42, wrote: > I object > A win feels cheap if shared with everyone. > > —— > Ben > -- > *From:* agora-business on behalf > of Matt

DIS: Re: BUS: What

2024-08-27 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I object A win feels cheap if shared with everyone. —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Matt Smyth via agora-business Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 5:30:56 PM To: agora-business Cc: Matt Smyth Subject: BUS: What I declare apathy, including all registere

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
What sort of bribe are you looking for? On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:33, ais523 via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:33, ais523 via agora-discussion < wrote: > On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 15:07 +, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion > wrote: >> Yo

DIS: Re: BUS: Precaution

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
If someone declared apathy, but with you as a beneficiary, would you continue to object? - oliver.n On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 21:30, Mischief via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 21:30, Mischief via agora-business < wrote: > I object to any and all

DIS: Re: BUS: Precaution

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
Agreed. I declare empathy. (Not really) > On Aug 27, 2024, at 16:39, Mischief via agora-business > wrote: > > On 8/27/24 4:35 PM, Agora amdw42 wrote: >> I intend to declare victory by apathy pursuant to rule 2465. > > I object. > > > Unless someone has a fresh take on this, could we move

DIS: Re: BUS: Precaution

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
Does this work? Is “declaring victory by apathy” different than “declaring apathy”? > On Aug 27, 2024, at 16:35, Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion > wrote: > > I intend to declare victory by apathy pursuant to rule 2465. > > —— > Ben > > From: agora-business

DIS: Re: BUS: Precaution

2024-08-27 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I intend to declare victory by apathy pursuant to rule 2465. —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Mischief via agora-business Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 4:30:51 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: Mischief Subject: BUS: Precaution I object to an

DIS: Re: BUS: Rocky Road (@Absurdor)

2024-08-27 Thread lare290 via agora-discussion
I tag this (with flair), because I forgot to do so. On 8/27/24 21:39, lare290 via agora-business wrote: I push the boulder. (with style)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
At the very least, I've learned a lot from this! On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:49 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 11:39 -0400, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:34 AM ais523 via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 11:39 -0400, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:34 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > An overt intent to declare Apathy, however, is likely to be > > objected to by pretty much everyone, so there's n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
> An overt intent to declare Apathy, however, is likely to be objected to by pretty much everyone, so there's not much point in trying. Fair point. 'Tis a silly rule, then. On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:34 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-08-2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
> > "Declaring Apathy" is the action that resolves the intent. Is it? By my reading of Rule 2124, the intent would resolve when it becomes mature and ripe, so 14 days from now. A rule purporting to allow a person to perform a tabled action > allows em to do so by announcement, if, consideri

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 15:07 +, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion wrote: > You should have specified Janet as well. If you did this, e would be > less likely to object. In general, if you're planning to run some sort of scam that involves nobody noticing what you're up to, it's best to bribe a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
Will you continue objecting to any intents to declare Apathy, even if they include you in the list of beneficiaries? On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:27, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:27, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:22 AM Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I think e intended to create a new intent to declare Apathy, not resolve > the previous one, which you objected to. E likely did, but e didn't write it as an intent. On 8/27/24 11:23,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
I did, yes. In my view it's a new intent because the list of beneficiaries is different. On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:22 AM Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I think e intended to create a new intent to declare Apathy, not resolve > the previous one, whi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
I think e intended to create a new intent to declare Apathy, not resolve the previous one, which you objected to. On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:19, Janet Cobb via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:19, Janet Cobb via agora-business < wrote: > On 8/27

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
How often are you allowed to attempt to declare Apathy? Because if there isn’t a limit, you should try to declare it right now! On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:11, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:11, Paul McDowell via agora-disc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
indeed... On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:07 AM Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > You should have specified Janet as well. If you did this, e would be less > likely to object. > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:05, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion <[ > agora-

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
You should have specified Janet as well. If you did this, e would be less likely to object. On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:05, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 16:05, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion < wrote: > Drat. > > Well, i

DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
Drat. Well, it was worth a shot! On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:02 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 8/27/24 10:59, Paul McDowell via agora-business wrote: > > Without objection, I declare Apathy, specifying myself and the following > > players: > > murphy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Absurdor] Boulder stuff

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
I think the link broke sorry On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 13:05, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 13:05, Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < wrote: > It does not, apparently > > - oliver.n > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 13:03, Agora a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Absurdor] Boulder stuff

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
It does not, apparently - oliver.n On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 13:03, Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion <[agora-discussion@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 13:03, Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion < wrote: > Yes but does this cause you to go plaid? > > —— > Ben

DIS: Re: BUS: [Absurdor] Boulder stuff

2024-08-27 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
Yes but does this cause you to go plaid? —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Paul McDowell via agora-business Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 5:38:29 PM To: agora-business Cc: Paul McDowell Subject: Re: BUS: [Absurdor] Boulder stuff > On Aug 26, 2024, at

DIS: Re: BUS: [Absurdor] Boulder stuff

2024-08-27 Thread Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion
I push the boulder at a moderate speed. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 22:28, Matt Smyth via agora-business <[agora-busin...@agoranomic.org](mailto:On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 22:28, Matt Smyth via agora-business < wrote: > I push the boulder, extremely quickly. > -- > juniper

DIS: Re: BUS: [Absurdor] Boulder stuff

2024-08-26 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
But, how quickly? On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, 4:04 pm Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I push the boulder > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:39 PM Paul McDowell via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 26, 2024, at 17:29, M

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2024-08-26 Thread Celeste Drummond via agora-discussion
wait no this is discussiojn On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 7:59 PM Celeste Drummond wrote: > Can I grant myself a welcome package within this thread? > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 7:57 PM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I think you should grant yourself a w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2024-08-26 Thread Celeste Drummond via agora-discussion
Can I grant myself a welcome package within this thread? On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 7:57 PM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I think you should grant yourself a welcome package. Before someone else > does it for you! :p > -- > 4st > putting jesters cap back

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2024-08-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think you should grant yourself a welcome package. Before someone else does it for you! :p -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Mon, Aug 26, 2024, 7:47 PM Celeste Drummond via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I register for Agora. My name is C

DIS: Re: BUS: Paranoia

2024-08-26 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
For each intent to declare Apathy that doesn't include me in the list of beneficiaries, I object to it. Just covering my bases —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Edward Murphy via agora-business Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2024 4:10:54 PM To: Agora Business

DIS: Re: BUS: Uppies (attn Absurdor)

2024-08-26 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder. (Slowly) —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Edward Murphy via agora-business Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2024 4:11:09 PM To: Agora Business Cc: Edward Murphy Subject: BUS: Uppies (attn Absurdor) I push the boulder. -- [ANSC H:GE V:G B:

DIS: Re: BUS: Petition for various agoranomic.org updates

2024-08-25 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
So, is e the webmastor? On Mon, 26 Aug 2024, 6:49 am Edward Murphy via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I petition nix (who I believe is still is maintaining agoranomic.org) to > update the following when time permits: > >* Join - mention the additional discussion for

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A submission

2024-08-25 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 8/25/24 9:50 AM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: but I can't see a good reason *not* to respond to it The fact that it was (deliberately) posted to a-d and thus wasn't an announcement? Also, you submitted that document, but no one has documented that submission. Tsk tsk. -- Mischief

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