Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8112-8122
Damn well in three weeks I'll see you again with voting strength lol. On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:02 AM Reuben Staley wrote: > It's cool that you want to vote again, but you unfortunately have voting > strength 0 since you have 3 or more blots. > > On another note, you're a zombie so if you intend to seriously get back > into the game, you should probably flip your matter switch. > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 16:10 Rebecca wrote: > > > Votes inline > > IDAuthor(s) AITitle > > > --- > > 8112 G., ATMunn 1.0 The Middle Way > > FOR > > 8113 Trigon 1.0 Auction cleanup > > AGAINST > > 8114 Trigon, twg, G. 1.0 Free auctions 2 > > FOR > > 8115 Aris, Trigon1.5 Heraldic uncertainty > > FOR > > 8116 Trigon, D Margaux 1.5 Control-C, Control-V > > FOR lol > > 8117 D Margaux, twg 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings > > FOR > > 8118 G. 2.0 Laurels Last Longer > > AGAINST! Being guaranteed speaker when you win most recently is an > > important incentive to do scams after other people etc > > 8119 D Margaux 2.0 Criminal Justice Adjustments Act > > FOR lol. I wrote most of this rule, this is like that but if I could be > > bothered to format correctly. > > 8120 D Margaux 2.0 Blot Decay > > AGAINST > > 8121 G. 3.0 Retroactive Documents > > Ratification is a sham anyway FOR > > 8122 Murphy 3.0 Middle of the road > > AGAINST. I don't know the context for this but it's way simpler and > better > > for everyone to have one vote. > > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:56 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > > > CoE: I believe Quorum is 5. The most recently resolved proposal was > > > Proposal 8110, which had 7 valid ballots. 7 * 2/3 = 4.67 which rounds > to > > 5. > > > > > > -twg > > > > > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > On Monday, October 29, 2018 1:16 AM, Aris Merchant < > > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > > > > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > > > > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > > > > quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid > > > > options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > > > > conditional votes). > > > > > > > > ID Author(s) AI Title > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > 8112 G., ATMunn 1.0 The Middle Way > > > > 8113 Trigon 1.0 Auction cleanup > > > > 8114 Trigon, twg, G. 1.0 Free auctions 2 > > > > 8115 Aris, Trigon 1.5 Heraldic uncertainty > > > > 8116 Trigon, D Margaux 1.5 Control-C, Control-V > > > > 8117 D Margaux, twg 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings > > > > 8118 G. 2.0 Laurels Last Longer > > > > 8119 D Margaux 2.0 Criminal Justice Adjustments Act > > > > 8120 D Margaux 2.0 Blot Decay > > > > 8121 G. 3.0 Retroactive Documents > > > > 8122 Murphy 3.0 Middle of the road > > > > > > > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > > > > > > > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. > > > > > > > > > // > > > > ID: 8112 > > > > Title: The Middle Way > > > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > > > Author: G. > > > > Co-authors: ATMunn > > > > > > > > Amend Rule 2510 (Such is Karma) by replacing the list in which the > list > > > > items are delimited with the - symbol with the following list: > > > > > > > > - Any player with a karma of 5 or greater is a Samurai. > > > > - Any player with a karma of -5 or less is an Gamma. > > > > - The Samurai with the highest karma (if any) is the Shogun. > > > > - The Gamma with the lowest karma (if any) is the Honourless > > > > Worm. > > > > > > > > [By replacing 'player' with 'Samurai' and 'Gamma' in the last two > > > > list items, you can't get Shogun/Worm unless you've cleared a > basic > > > > barrier - right now you could be a Worm even if your karma isn't > > > > all that low]. > > > > > > > > > > > // > > > > ID: 8113 > > > > Title: Auction cleanup > > > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > > > Author: Trigon > > > > Co-authors: > > > > > > > > [ Comment: I noticed that there are an entire eight rules > defining > > > > auctions and I thought that was a bit excessive. Oh, we also > > missed a > > > > few sentences about contracts initiating auctions so this removes > > > >
DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8112-8122
It's cool that you want to vote again, but you unfortunately have voting strength 0 since you have 3 or more blots. On another note, you're a zombie so if you intend to seriously get back into the game, you should probably flip your matter switch. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 16:10 Rebecca wrote: > Votes inline > IDAuthor(s) AITitle > --- > 8112 G., ATMunn 1.0 The Middle Way > FOR > 8113 Trigon 1.0 Auction cleanup > AGAINST > 8114 Trigon, twg, G. 1.0 Free auctions 2 > FOR > 8115 Aris, Trigon1.5 Heraldic uncertainty > FOR > 8116 Trigon, D Margaux 1.5 Control-C, Control-V > FOR lol > 8117 D Margaux, twg 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings > FOR > 8118 G. 2.0 Laurels Last Longer > AGAINST! Being guaranteed speaker when you win most recently is an > important incentive to do scams after other people etc > 8119 D Margaux 2.0 Criminal Justice Adjustments Act > FOR lol. I wrote most of this rule, this is like that but if I could be > bothered to format correctly. > 8120 D Margaux 2.0 Blot Decay > AGAINST > 8121 G. 3.0 Retroactive Documents > Ratification is a sham anyway FOR > 8122 Murphy 3.0 Middle of the road > AGAINST. I don't know the context for this but it's way simpler and better > for everyone to have one vote. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:56 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > CoE: I believe Quorum is 5. The most recently resolved proposal was > > Proposal 8110, which had 7 valid ballots. 7 * 2/3 = 4.67 which rounds to > 5. > > > > -twg > > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Monday, October 29, 2018 1:16 AM, Aris Merchant < > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > > > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > > > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > > > quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid > > > options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > > > conditional votes). > > > > > > ID Author(s) AI Title > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > 8112 G., ATMunn 1.0 The Middle Way > > > 8113 Trigon 1.0 Auction cleanup > > > 8114 Trigon, twg, G. 1.0 Free auctions 2 > > > 8115 Aris, Trigon 1.5 Heraldic uncertainty > > > 8116 Trigon, D Margaux 1.5 Control-C, Control-V > > > 8117 D Margaux, twg 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings > > > 8118 G. 2.0 Laurels Last Longer > > > 8119 D Margaux 2.0 Criminal Justice Adjustments Act > > > 8120 D Margaux 2.0 Blot Decay > > > 8121 G. 3.0 Retroactive Documents > > > 8122 Murphy 3.0 Middle of the road > > > > > > The proposal pool is currently empty. > > > > > > The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below. > > > > > > // > > > ID: 8112 > > > Title: The Middle Way > > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > > Author: G. > > > Co-authors: ATMunn > > > > > > Amend Rule 2510 (Such is Karma) by replacing the list in which the list > > > items are delimited with the - symbol with the following list: > > > > > > - Any player with a karma of 5 or greater is a Samurai. > > > - Any player with a karma of -5 or less is an Gamma. > > > - The Samurai with the highest karma (if any) is the Shogun. > > > - The Gamma with the lowest karma (if any) is the Honourless > > > Worm. > > > > > > [By replacing 'player' with 'Samurai' and 'Gamma' in the last two > > > list items, you can't get Shogun/Worm unless you've cleared a basic > > > barrier - right now you could be a Worm even if your karma isn't > > > all that low]. > > > > > > > > // > > > ID: 8113 > > > Title: Auction cleanup > > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > > Author: Trigon > > > Co-authors: > > > > > > [ Comment: I noticed that there are an entire eight rules defining > > > auctions and I thought that was a bit excessive. Oh, we also > missed a > > > few sentences about contracts initiating auctions so this removes > > > them. This contains no functional changes but it makes the rules > > > defining auctions less cumbersome. ] > > > > > > Amend rule 2545 'Auctions' to read: > > > > > > An Auction is a way for entities to give away items in exchange > > > for a currency. Any rule CAN permit or require Auctions to be > > > initiated. > > > > > > Each Aucti
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8112-8122
NttPF.
On 10/28/2018 10:56 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote:
Votes, as well as a proposal, inline.
Gaelan
On Oct 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Aris Merchant
wrote:
I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
conditional votes).
IDAuthor(s) AITitle
---
8112 G., ATMunn 1.0 The Middle Way
FOR
8113 Trigon 1.0 Auction cleanup
PRESENT. I think I prefer complex but tested rules over simpler but potentially
buggy rules, but not strongly enough to vote AGAINST. Willing to change my vote
if I hear something compelling either way
8114 Trigon, twg, G. 1.0 Free auctions 2
FOR. But this might break; does an auction cease to exist when it is completed?
8115 Aris, Trigon1.5 Heraldic uncertainty
AGAINST per G.
8116 Trigon, D Margaux 1.5 Control-C, Control-V
FOR
8117 D Margaux, twg 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings
AGAINST per G.
8118 G. 2.0 Laurels Last Longer
FOR
8119 D Margaux 2.0 Criminal Justice Adjustments Act
FOR. I create this proposal: {
Title: Law is Ambiguous Word Act
AI: 2
Author: Gaelan
Amend Rule 2531 (Referee Accountability) by replacing “law” with “the rules."
}
8120 D Margaux 2.0 Blot Decay
FOR
8121 G. 3.0 Retroactive Documents
PRESENT (I’m not sure this is necessary)
8122 Murphy 3.0 Middle of the road
PRESENT until someone explains the reasoning on this one to me
The proposal pool is currently empty.
The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
//
ID: 8112
Title: The Middle Way
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: G.
Co-authors: ATMunn
Amend Rule 2510 (Such is Karma) by replacing the list in which the list
items are delimited with the - symbol with the following list:
- Any player with a karma of 5 or greater is a Samurai.
- Any player with a karma of -5 or less is an Gamma.
- The Samurai with the highest karma (if any) is the Shogun.
- The Gamma with the lowest karma (if any) is the Honourless
Worm.
[By replacing 'player' with 'Samurai' and 'Gamma' in the last two
list items, you can't get Shogun/Worm unless you've cleared a basic
barrier - right now you could be a Worm even if your karma isn't
all that low].
//
ID: 8113
Title: Auction cleanup
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Trigon
Co-authors:
[ Comment: I noticed that there are an entire eight rules defining
auctions and I thought that was a bit excessive. Oh, we also missed a
few sentences about contracts initiating auctions so this removes
them. This contains no functional changes but it makes the rules
defining auctions less cumbersome. ]
Amend rule 2545 'Auctions' to read:
An Auction is a way for entities to give away items in exchange
for a currency. Any rule CAN permit or require Auctions to be
initiated.
Each Auction has one or more lots of items. A lot is a non-empty
list of items to be transferred to a single recipient.
Each Auction has an Auctioneer. All rules permitting Auctions to
be initiated should specify an entity to be Auctioneer. If no
Auctioneer is specified, the default Auctioneer is Agora.
Each Auction has an Announcer. Only persons can be Announcers. If
the Auctioneer of an Auction is a player, then that player is also
the Announcer of that Auction. Otherwise, the rule defining an
Auction CAN define the Announcer for that Auction.
Amend the last paragraph of rule 2549 'Auction Initiation' by replacing
'coins' with 'Agora's official currency'.
Amend the last paragraph of rule 2551 'Auction End' by removing the
final sentence.
Repeal rule 2546 'Lots'
Repeal rule 2547 'The Auctioneer'
Repeal rule 2548 'The Auction Announcer'
//
ID: 8114
Title: Free auctions 2
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Trigon
Co-authors: twg, G.
[ Comment: Not sure how I actually feel about this being enacted but
proposals are cheap so I might as well.
Version 2: Clear up wording. ]
Create a new power-1 rule entitled 'Free Auctions' with the text:
A player who is not the Auctioneer of an existing Auction
specified by this rule CAN, by announcement, initiate an auction
with emself as the Announcer and Auctioneer.
//
ID: 8115
Title: Heraldic uncertainty
Adoption index: 1.5
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Trigon
Amend rule 649 by appending the following sentence to the first paragraph:
The Herald's mon
DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8112-8122
Votes, as well as a proposal, inline.
Gaelan
> On Oct 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Aris Merchant
> wrote:
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
> pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
> options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
>
> IDAuthor(s) AITitle
> ---
> 8112 G., ATMunn 1.0 The Middle Way
FOR
> 8113 Trigon 1.0 Auction cleanup
PRESENT. I think I prefer complex but tested rules over simpler but potentially
buggy rules, but not strongly enough to vote AGAINST. Willing to change my vote
if I hear something compelling either way
> 8114 Trigon, twg, G. 1.0 Free auctions 2
FOR. But this might break; does an auction cease to exist when it is completed?
> 8115 Aris, Trigon1.5 Heraldic uncertainty
AGAINST per G.
> 8116 Trigon, D Margaux 1.5 Control-C, Control-V
FOR
> 8117 D Margaux, twg 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings
AGAINST per G.
> 8118 G. 2.0 Laurels Last Longer
FOR
> 8119 D Margaux 2.0 Criminal Justice Adjustments Act
FOR. I create this proposal: {
Title: Law is Ambiguous Word Act
AI: 2
Author: Gaelan
Amend Rule 2531 (Referee Accountability) by replacing “law” with “the rules."
}
> 8120 D Margaux 2.0 Blot Decay
FOR
> 8121 G. 3.0 Retroactive Documents
PRESENT (I’m not sure this is necessary)
> 8122 Murphy 3.0 Middle of the road
PRESENT until someone explains the reasoning on this one to me
>
> The proposal pool is currently empty.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
>
> //
> ID: 8112
> Title: The Middle Way
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: G.
> Co-authors: ATMunn
>
>
> Amend Rule 2510 (Such is Karma) by replacing the list in which the list
> items are delimited with the - symbol with the following list:
>
> - Any player with a karma of 5 or greater is a Samurai.
>
> - Any player with a karma of -5 or less is an Gamma.
>
> - The Samurai with the highest karma (if any) is the Shogun.
>
> - The Gamma with the lowest karma (if any) is the Honourless
>Worm.
>
> [By replacing 'player' with 'Samurai' and 'Gamma' in the last two
> list items, you can't get Shogun/Worm unless you've cleared a basic
> barrier - right now you could be a Worm even if your karma isn't
> all that low].
>
> //
> ID: 8113
> Title: Auction cleanup
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Trigon
> Co-authors:
>
>
> [ Comment: I noticed that there are an entire eight rules defining
> auctions and I thought that was a bit excessive. Oh, we also missed a
> few sentences about contracts initiating auctions so this removes
> them. This contains no functional changes but it makes the rules
> defining auctions less cumbersome. ]
>
> Amend rule 2545 'Auctions' to read:
>
> An Auction is a way for entities to give away items in exchange
> for a currency. Any rule CAN permit or require Auctions to be
> initiated.
>
> Each Auction has one or more lots of items. A lot is a non-empty
> list of items to be transferred to a single recipient.
>
> Each Auction has an Auctioneer. All rules permitting Auctions to
> be initiated should specify an entity to be Auctioneer. If no
> Auctioneer is specified, the default Auctioneer is Agora.
>
> Each Auction has an Announcer. Only persons can be Announcers. If
> the Auctioneer of an Auction is a player, then that player is also
> the Announcer of that Auction. Otherwise, the rule defining an
> Auction CAN define the Announcer for that Auction.
>
> Amend the last paragraph of rule 2549 'Auction Initiation' by replacing
> 'coins' with 'Agora's official currency'.
>
> Amend the last paragraph of rule 2551 'Auction End' by removing the
> final sentence.
>
> Repeal rule 2546 'Lots'
> Repeal rule 2547 'The Auctioneer'
> Repeal rule 2548 'The Auction Announcer'
>
> //
> ID: 8114
> Title: Free auctions 2
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Trigon
> Co-authors: twg, G.
>
>
> [ Comment: Not sure how I actually feel about this being enacted but
> proposals are cheap so I might as well.
>
> Version 2: Clear up wording. ]
>
> Create a new power-1 rule entitled 'Free Auctions' with the text:
>
> A player who is not the Auctioneer of an existing Auction
> specified by this rule CAN, by announcement, initiate an auction
> with emself as the Announcer and Auctioneer.
>
> //
> ID: 8115
> Title: Heraldic uncertainty
> Adoption index:
