Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 19:29, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:24 PM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > > - Imprimatur: The Prime Minister acts on behalf of the vote collector > > > of an Agoran Decision to resolve that decision. > > Also is power 2 high enough to do this? > > Yes, acting on behalf is secured at power 2.0. I was confused by the text "This rule takes precedence over any rule that would provide another mechanism by which an Agoran decision may be resolved." in R208. If that text means other rules can't define mechanisms for resolving Agoran decisions, that might mean it overrules R2466, acting on behalf, since that effectively defines a mechanism for someone other than the vote collector to cause the decison to be resolved. But I guess there's no reason to think that it rules out defining new mechanisms, and that sentence just means other power-3 rules can't e.g. waive conditions 1-4 from R208. - Falsifian
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:24 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > > - Imprimatur: The Prime Minister acts on behalf of the vote collector > > of an Agoran Decision to resolve that decision. > > It worries me that this doesn't say how the decision is resolved. It still works by the first paragraph of the acting on behalf rule, which says in part "If the enabling rule does not specify the mechanism by which the agent may do so, then the agent CAN perform the action in the same manner in which the principal CAN do so, with the additional requirement that the agent must, in the message in which the action is performed, uniquely identify the principal and that the action is being taken on behalf of that person." So e has to do whatever the vote collector has to do, and also say e's doing it by acting behalf. > Also is power 2 high enough to do this? Yes, acting on behalf is secured at power 2.0. -Aris
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion
> - Imprimatur: The Prime Minister acts on behalf of the vote collector > of an Agoran Decision to resolve that decision. It worries me that this doesn't say how the decision is resolved. Also is power 2 high enough to do this? Sorry, didn't notice this until reviewing proposals to vote on. - Falsifian
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:20 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > > - Corram Vobis: The Prime Minister enters a specified case, the current > > judgement of which was assigned within the past quarter, into Moot. > > Should that be "Coram Nobis" > They're essentially synonyms used in different jurisdictions. I did "vobis" because the decision to use the writ comes from the PM, not from the court. -Aris
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion
> - Corram Vobis: The Prime Minister enters a specified case, the current > judgement of which was assigned within the past quarter, into Moot. Should that be "Coram Nobis" - Falsifian
DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion
As said when this came up before, I support this. On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:15 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. > > -Aris > --- > Title: Executive Expansion > Adoption index: 2.0 > Author: Aris > Co-authors: > > > Amend Rule 2451, "Executive Orders", to read in full: > > Once per week, except as otherwise forbidden by this rule, the Is this specific enough to prevent the issuance of different types of Cabinet Orders within the same week? > current Prime Minister CAN issue a Cabinet Order by announcement > to cause the effect specified by the order. The Prime Minister > CANNOT issue the same executive order more than once in a month. > > The available Cabinet Orders are: > > - Certiorari: The Prime Minister assigns emself as judge > of a specified open case. > > - Corram Vobis: The Prime Minister enters a specified case, the current > judgement of which was assigned within the past quarter, into Moot. > > - Dive: The Prime Minister levies a fine of 2 on a > specified player. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the > reason for the fine MAY be any grievance held by the Prime > Minister, not necessarily a violation of the rules, against the > person to whom the fine is levied. > > - Imprimatur: The Prime Minister acts on behalf of the vote collector > of an Agoran Decision to resolve that decision. > > - Manifesto: The Prime Minister distributes a specified > proposal in the Proposal Pool. > > - Pardon: N of a person's blots are expunged, where N is the number > of blots e received from a specified fine that has not previously been > pardoned. This power SHOULD be used only when extraordinary factors > counsel > in favor of clemency, and any further mention of the fine SHOULD > include the fact that it has been pardoned. > > - Reshuffle: The Prime Minister initiates elections for a specified > set of elected offices. Should this include the line-item veto conditional on the passage of Murphy's proposal?
