Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 23:07, nch via agora-discussion
 wrote:
> On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> > On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> >>> I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the
> >>> old disinterested proposals system. The way this works is by calling
> >>> proposals pended with pendants "sponsored" proposals, and making that a
> >>> condition of getting the LC and coin rewards. I left a support mechanism
> >>> for the Promotor because this scam convinced me that it's a good
> >>> mechanism (if there was no support mechanism, the opposition wouldn't
> >>> have been able to get their proposal in in time, which wouldn't have
> >>> been nearly as fun). We can tweak it as we see what happens with it.
> >>>
> >>> Also, while I was at it, I rewrote the second paragraph of Popular
> >>> Proposal Proposer Privilege. It should be functionally identical but
> >>> less verbose.
> >> So I forgot to rename this after changing the name of the system... I
> >> withdraw Interested Proposals and submit but do not pend the following
> >> proposal:
> >>
> >> {
> >>
> >> Title: Sponsored Proposals
> >> AI: 1.0
> >> Author: nch
> >> Coauthors: G., Trigon
> >>
> >> Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full:
> >>
> >>  Pended is an untracked negative boolean proposal switch.
> >>
> >>  Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
> >>  specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
> >>  proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
> >>  proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
> >>  the proposal becomes sponsored.
> >>
> >>  The Promotor CAN, with 2+X support, flip the Pended switch of a
> >>  proposal in the Proposal Pool to true. For this, X is equal to the
> >>  number of times e has done so in the past 7 days.
> >>
> >>  Any player CAN, without objection, flip the Pended switch of a
> >>  proposal in the Proposal Pool to true.
> >>
> >>  A proposal with a Pended switch set to True is 'pending'.
> >>
> >> Repeal R2626 "Certifiable Patches".
> >>
> >> Amend R2623, "Popular Proposal Proposer Privilege", by replacing:
> >>
> >>  The player who proposed the adopted proposal whose referendum had
> >>  the greatest popularity among all referenda assessed in the last 7
> >>  days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement, provided
> >>  that no referendum initiated in the same message as it remains
> >>  unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied proposals
> >>  can do so once each.
> >>
> >> with:
> >>
> >>  The author of the most popular sponsored proposal adopted in the
> >>  last 7 days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement,
> >>  provided that no referenda initiated in the same message as it
> >>  remain unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied
> >>  proposals can do so once each.
> >>
> >> Amend R2496, "Rewards", by replacing "an adopted proposal" with "an
> >> adopted sponsored proposal".
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> --
> >> nch
> >> Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
> >>
> >>
> > TTttPF
> >
> > --
> > nch
> > Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
> >
> >
> Does anyone have any thoughts or feedback on this? Don't want to pend it
> with no idea what anyone thinks about it.

Looks good to me.

- Falsifian


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion

On 2020-06-28 17:07, nch via agora-discussion wrote:

On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:

On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:

On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:

I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the
old disinterested proposals system. The way this works is by calling
proposals pended with pendants "sponsored" proposals, and making that a
condition of getting the LC and coin rewards. I left a support mechanism
for the Promotor because this scam convinced me that it's a good
mechanism (if there was no support mechanism, the opposition wouldn't
have been able to get their proposal in in time, which wouldn't have
been nearly as fun). We can tweak it as we see what happens with it.

Also, while I was at it, I rewrote the second paragraph of Popular
Proposal Proposer Privilege. It should be functionally identical but
less verbose.

So I forgot to rename this after changing the name of the system... I
withdraw Interested Proposals and submit but do not pend the following
proposal:

{

Title: Sponsored Proposals
AI: 1.0
Author: nch
Coauthors: G., Trigon

Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full:

  Pended is an untracked negative boolean proposal switch.

  Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
  specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
  proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
  proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
  the proposal becomes sponsored.

  The Promotor CAN, with 2+X support, flip the Pended switch of a
  proposal in the Proposal Pool to true. For this, X is equal to the
  number of times e has done so in the past 7 days.

  Any player CAN, without objection, flip the Pended switch of a
  proposal in the Proposal Pool to true.

  A proposal with a Pended switch set to True is 'pending'.

Repeal R2626 "Certifiable Patches".

Amend R2623, "Popular Proposal Proposer Privilege", by replacing:

  The player who proposed the adopted proposal whose referendum had
  the greatest popularity among all referenda assessed in the last 7
  days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement, provided
  that no referendum initiated in the same message as it remains
  unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied proposals
  can do so once each.

with:

  The author of the most popular sponsored proposal adopted in the
  last 7 days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement,
  provided that no referenda initiated in the same message as it
  remain unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied
  proposals can do so once each.

Amend R2496, "Rewards", by replacing "an adopted proposal" with "an
adopted sponsored proposal".

}

--
nch
Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager



TTttPF

--
nch
Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager



Does anyone have any thoughts or feedback on this? Don't want to pend it
with no idea what anyone thinks about it.


I personally really like this proposal. It's really compact and I think 
a lot more functional than anything else we have come up with before.


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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the
>>> old disinterested proposals system. The way this works is by calling
>>> proposals pended with pendants "sponsored" proposals, and making that a
>>> condition of getting the LC and coin rewards. I left a support mechanism
>>> for the Promotor because this scam convinced me that it's a good
>>> mechanism (if there was no support mechanism, the opposition wouldn't
>>> have been able to get their proposal in in time, which wouldn't have
>>> been nearly as fun). We can tweak it as we see what happens with it.
>>>
>>> Also, while I was at it, I rewrote the second paragraph of Popular
>>> Proposal Proposer Privilege. It should be functionally identical but
>>> less verbose.
>> So I forgot to rename this after changing the name of the system... I
>> withdraw Interested Proposals and submit but do not pend the following
>> proposal:
>>
>> {
>>
>> Title: Sponsored Proposals
>> AI: 1.0
>> Author: nch
>> Coauthors: G., Trigon
>>
>> Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full:
>>
>>  Pended is an untracked negative boolean proposal switch.
>>
>>  Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
>>  specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
>>  proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
>>  proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
>>  the proposal becomes sponsored.
>>
>>  The Promotor CAN, with 2+X support, flip the Pended switch of a
>>  proposal in the Proposal Pool to true. For this, X is equal to the
>>  number of times e has done so in the past 7 days.
>>
>>  Any player CAN, without objection, flip the Pended switch of a
>>  proposal in the Proposal Pool to true.
>>
>>  A proposal with a Pended switch set to True is 'pending'.
>>
>> Repeal R2626 "Certifiable Patches".
>>
>> Amend R2623, "Popular Proposal Proposer Privilege", by replacing:
>>
>>  The player who proposed the adopted proposal whose referendum had
>>  the greatest popularity among all referenda assessed in the last 7
>>  days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement, provided
>>  that no referendum initiated in the same message as it remains
>>  unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied proposals
>>  can do so once each.
>>
>> with:
>>
>>  The author of the most popular sponsored proposal adopted in the
>>  last 7 days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement,
>>  provided that no referenda initiated in the same message as it
>>  remain unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied
>>  proposals can do so once each.
>>
>> Amend R2496, "Rewards", by replacing "an adopted proposal" with "an
>> adopted sponsored proposal".
>>
>> }
>>
>> --
>> nch
>> Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
>>
>>
> TTttPF
>
> --
> nch
> Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
>
>
Does anyone have any thoughts or feedback on this? Don't want to pend it 
with no idea what anyone thinks about it.

-- 
nch
Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager




DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the
> old disinterested proposals system. The way this works is by calling
> proposals pended with pendants "sponsored" proposals, and making that a
> condition of getting the LC and coin rewards. I left a support mechanism
> for the Promotor because this scam convinced me that it's a good
> mechanism (if there was no support mechanism, the opposition wouldn't
> have been able to get their proposal in in time, which wouldn't have
> been nearly as fun). We can tweak it as we see what happens with it.
>
> Also, while I was at it, I rewrote the second paragraph of Popular
> Proposal Proposer Privilege. It should be functionally identical but
> less verbose.

So I forgot to rename this after changing the name of the system... I 
withdraw Interested Proposals and submit but do not pend the following 
proposal:

{

Title: Sponsored Proposals
AI: 1.0
Author: nch
Coauthors: G., Trigon

Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full:

   Pended is an untracked negative boolean proposal switch.

   Any player CAN pay 1 Pendant to flip the Pended switch of a
   specified proposal to True. If the player did not create the
   proposal and is not listed in the list of co-authors of the
   proposal, e is added to the list of co-authors. When e does so,
   the proposal becomes sponsored.

   The Promotor CAN, with 2+X support, flip the Pended switch of a
   proposal in the Proposal Pool to true. For this, X is equal to the
   number of times e has done so in the past 7 days.

   Any player CAN, without objection, flip the Pended switch of a
   proposal in the Proposal Pool to true.

   A proposal with a Pended switch set to True is 'pending'.

Repeal R2626 "Certifiable Patches".

Amend R2623, "Popular Proposal Proposer Privilege", by replacing:

   The player who proposed the adopted proposal whose referendum had
   the greatest popularity among all referenda assessed in the last 7
   days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement, provided
   that no referendum initiated in the same message as it remains
   unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied proposals
   can do so once each.

with:

   The author of the most popular sponsored proposal adopted in the
   last 7 days CAN once earn one Legislative Card by announcement,
   provided that no referenda initiated in the same message as it
   remain unresolved. If there is a tie, all authors of the tied
   proposals can do so once each.

Amend R2496, "Rewards", by replacing "an adopted proposal" with "an
adopted sponsored proposal".

}

-- 
nch
Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager




DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Interested proposals

2019-11-03 Thread Ørjan Johansen

How did I end up co-author of that?

Greetings,
Ørjan.

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote:


Proposal: Interested proposals
(co-author = Oerjan)

Create a rule titled "Interested Proposals" with this text:

 Interest is an untracked proposal switch with values
 "disinterested" (default) and "interested". The author of a
 proposal in the Proposal Pool CAN flip its Interest to Interested
 by paying a fee of 5 coins, or by announcement if e most recently
 registered less than 3 months ago.

Amend Rule 2496 (Rewards) by replacing this text:
 * Being the author of an adopted proposal:
with this text:
 * Being the author of an adopted interested proposal: