Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-05 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I wish I had a zombie at the moment so I could give you karma for this. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 5, 2018 2:17 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I suspect "Oatbreaking is per se prohibited by law" is trivially false, > because I don't think that breaking oats is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread Cuddle Beam
I suspect "Oatbreaking is per se prohibited by law" is trivially false, because I don't think that breaking oats is inherently forbidden by law. I might be wrong though, it's worth looking into our rights for oats. I eat a lot for breakfast so I'm quite concerned. On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 4:15 AM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > After checking the rules: violating pledges is defined as a crime, but > I can't see any actual requirement to avoid committing crime. The > relationship between crimes and illegal actions does not seem to be > well-defined. The most

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread Cuddle Beam
> On a possibly more worrying note, I note that "the Rules … allow … its performance" in rule 2125 means that pretty much everything is regulated anyway Yep, I found that as well. I have always believed that doing unregulated things has always been impossible because everything is regulated (the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 11:37 -0400, D Margaux wrote: > > Is it possible that the pledge requires > > Cuddlebeam to be the > > recordkeepor of everything, without > > actually /making/ Cuddlebeam the > > recordkeepor of everything? > > Perhaps it does, but I think the pledge would still ossify

DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread Cuddle Beam
mfw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQBJiEiB9Os On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:11 PM D Margaux wrote: > == > > CuddleBeam: > > You face two pointed fingers accusing you of breaching your attempted > pledge to be the recordkeepor of absolutely everything. > > It is abundantly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread Cuddle Beam
Yep. Whether or not I effectively am the recordkeeper doesn't matter. What matters is that I'm *required* to or not. Required to be a recordkeeper = / = Am a recordkeeper. I could do absolutely no recordkeeping and the thing still holds (if it even happens, because ossification might stop it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread D Margaux
>Is it possible that the pledge requires >Cuddlebeam to be the >recordkeepor of everything, without >actually /making/ Cuddlebeam the >recordkeepor of everything? Perhaps it does, but I think the pledge would still ossify Agora. I think the question is whether CuddleBeam’s pledge (if effective)

DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 10:11 -0400, D Margaux wrote: > Nevertheless, Agora is a nomic of laws, not players. If your pledge > is valid, and if it imposed on you a duty to be recordkeepor of > everything, then I believe it is more likely than not that all > actions in the universe would become