Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread ATMunn
You have my support, anyway. On 7/5/2018 2:59 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: Unless a consensus forms one way or the other, I'll implement your paper removal suggestion in a separate proposal contingent on this one passing. As for the economic argument, I disagree, for reasons I really should have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
The fact is, there is such a glut of paper that no one who is "playing" the minigame is bothering to try to produce it. It's not a barrier. It is, as you say, a "stop and think" barrier. That's a good thing. And it's not a requirement to "play" given that no one is using the paper to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Aris Merchant
Perhaps we shouldn't have an "economy". Perhaps we should have a mini-game that people play because they enjoy it. I don't see terribly many people actively participating in the economy because they want paper. At same time, I do see paper making the main game less fun for players. If the economy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Rebecca
No, the economy shouldn't be optional. The only way to encourage engagement with it is to make it unoptional in some way, which it really isn't now. CFJs should always be free. Proposals can and should be interacted with. Paper is a super feels-bad unfun way to do it. Better, though, than nothing.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Aris Merchant
Unless a consensus forms one way or the other, I'll implement your paper removal suggestion in a separate proposal contingent on this one passing. As for the economic argument, I disagree, for reasons I really should have spelled out when submitting the proposal. The problem isn't that people

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Corona
Leaving the paper framework for a possible repurposing seems like a better idea to me. Nobody would make paper while it would be useless, so the economy would not be affected. ~Corona On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This would be fine but it completely nullifies paper. A

DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Corona
The majority of people are not in danger of running out of paper, but sure, I'll support this. Paper _is_ rather difficult to manufacture, requiring two land units with facilities (orchard+mill), preferably also a third one (mine) for sustainability. ~Corona On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Reuben Staley
This would be fine but it completely nullifies paper. A better way to do this while preserving the economy would be to get rid of paper and looms then add lumber to the list of unrefinable resources. Also, everyone gets paper once a month so participation in the economy is completely optional