DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: Midnight Ambiguity

2014-06-24 Thread Benjamin Schultz 
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Jonathan Rouillard 
jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I submit the Judicial Case:
 
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Midnight Monday is defined as 24:00.
 
 
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 Gratuitous arguments: Nobody I know uses it like that. If someone
 tells me at midnight tomorrow, I understand tonight. If e actually
 meant tomorrow night at midnight, e should have clarified. Not that
 I do much at midnight most days, but eh.



Gratuitous argument:  I know too many people who use it like that.  And
they are wrong, wrong, WRONG.

OscarMeyr

DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: Midnight Ambiguity

2014-06-19 Thread omd 
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote:
   Conventionally, when one refers to midnight Monday, what would
   first come to mind is the midnight during the night of Monday, not
   Midnight during the morning of Monday. For example, when one asks
   another to meet em at midnight tomorrow, the other would
   conventionally think of midnight tomorrow to be midnight during
   tomorrow night rather than midnight tomorrow morning.

Gratuitous: Aside from common sense factors, the previous clause says
that Agoran days begin at midnight UTC.  Your interpretation would
have Agoran days beginning at the end of regular days (i.e. to the
extent this semantically differs, even though it refers to the same
time, the end of Monday rather than the beginning of Tuesday), as
opposed to the more straightforward intepretation where the beginning
of the Agoran day is the beginning of the regular day.

But really, midnight is one thing, midnight UTC is another.  I
would never see that as anything other than 00:00.

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