Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans
On 2020-07-16 9:49 p.m., Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/16/20 5:47 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: On 2020-07-16 5:47 p.m., ATMunn via agora-business wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:43 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. I like tacos. CFJ: In the above message, I broke a pledge. Arguments: Though I did say the word I am forbidden to say due to the pledge, it was 1) not a public message and 2) not an action. So, FALSE would be logical. However, the pledge does say "in any context." Does that still make it binding, even outside of public forums? Gratuitous: CFJ 3737 may be relevant here. The judge found that if someone agreed to a contract stating parties SHALL NOT breathe, then breathing would be a regulated action just for those parties. So, maybe saying "tacos" is a regulated action just for you. (Whether or not saying "tacos" is a regulated action, I suspect it is at least an action, but I'm not sure.) We don't have the "SHALL NOT be interpreted" anymore, so I don't think whether it's a regulated action is particularly relevant. I think that was replaced with "A body of law does not proscribe any action which it does not regulate." I don't know whether the action being regulated or not matters. Maybe if it's regulated, that mean ATMunn's attempt to say the word "tacos" using the discussion list was unsuccessful, since the rules describe no method for saying things other than "publishing" via a public forum. -- Falsifian
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans
On 7/16/20 5:47 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-07-16 5:47 p.m., ATMunn via agora-business wrote: >> On 7/16/2020 1:43 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. >>> I like tacos. >>> >> CFJ: In the above message, I broke a pledge. >> >> Arguments: Though I did say the word I am forbidden to say due to the >> pledge, it was 1) not a public message and 2) not an action. So, FALSE >> would be logical. However, the pledge does say "in any context." Does >> that still make it binding, even outside of public forums? > Gratuitous: > > CFJ 3737 may be relevant here. The judge found that if someone agreed to > a contract stating parties SHALL NOT breathe, then breathing would be a > regulated action just for those parties. So, maybe saying "tacos" is a > regulated action just for you. > > (Whether or not saying "tacos" is a regulated action, I suspect it is at > least an action, but I'm not sure.) > We don't have the "SHALL NOT be interpreted" anymore, so I don't think whether it's a regulated action is particularly relevant. -- Jason Cobb
DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans
On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. I like tacos. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)
