Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3559 assigned to o

2017-09-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 21, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I could write an Agency with that same thing + output, for example, something > like: > > ---*--- > Any agent may take 1 shiny from Cuddlebeam and the following clause has no > effect. > > Any agent may take 2 shiny from Cuddlebeam and t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3559 assigned to o

2017-09-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
There's a CFJ to the effect of "unless it's explicitly written in an Instrument of power, loops and paradoxes are just thrown out altogether as being ambiguous as per needing to specify actions clearly (R478). If there's an explicit rule/instrument that sets it up and takes precedence over ot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3559 assigned to o

2017-09-21 Thread Cuddle Beam
I could write an Agency with that same thing + output, for example, something like: ---*--- Any agent may take 1 shiny from Cuddlebeam and the following clause has no effect. Any agent may take 2 shiny from Cuddlebeam and the previous clause has no effect. ---*--- Then summon a CFJ for if someon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3559 assigned to o

2017-09-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
Interesting question. I'd say it does have the potential to break things, but that it's a known feature. i.e. if we put something broken in a Rule via a proposal, then we'd have to say "it's our fault, we shouldn't have voted for it." It's really the same (only) protection against bad proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3559 assigned to o

2017-09-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:38 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Without addressing the question of whether a proposal can have direct effects > on other proposals without enacting a rule change (a complicated question > under rule 2140), it seems clear that a proposal can have effects beyond rule > change