Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-08-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/1/2019 6:02 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 8/1/19 8:53 PM, James Cook wrote: >> Would it make the Promotor's job easier if the Rules were changed to >> not require distributing everything at once? > > > In my understanding, the Rules don't require this now. > > Rule 1607 reads, in part: > >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-08-01 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/1/19 8:53 PM, James Cook wrote: Would it make the Promotor's job easier if the Rules were changed to not require distributing everything at once? In my understanding, the Rules don't require this now. Rule 1607 reads, in part: In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-08-01 Thread James Cook
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 23:00, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:44 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > > > On 7/30/19 9:51 PM, James Cook wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:31, Edward Murphy wrote: > > >> I vote as follows. Also, not sure what the difficulties were here, but > > >> in any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-08-01 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:44 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > On 7/30/19 9:51 PM, James Cook wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:31, Edward Murphy wrote: > >> I vote as follows. Also, not sure what the difficulties were here, but > >> in any case, how would people feel about multiple distributions per

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-08-01 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/30/19 9:51 PM, James Cook wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:31, Edward Murphy wrote: I vote as follows. Also, not sure what the difficulties were here, but in any case, how would people feel about multiple distributions per week (5 to 10 per day, say)? (No, I'm not bidding for the office

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
> - Enforce this norm by lowering people's honor for not following it (I > just generally like the idea of using honor to reinforce norms since it > doesn't do much else) I like this idea. -- - Falsifian

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:31, Edward Murphy wrote: > I vote as follows. Also, not sure what the difficulties were here, but > in any case, how would people feel about multiple distributions per week > (5 to 10 per day, say)? (No, I'm not bidding for the office myself.) As a voter, I would be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread nch
On 7/28/19 4:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Incidentally, it’s pretty unlikely that I could persuade y’all to approve this, but my life would be way simpler if proposals could only be submitted in messages that had “proposal” in the subject line. Currently, I have to read through every public

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread Reuben Staley
On 7/28/19 4:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 7/28/2019 2:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Incidentally, it’s pretty unlikely that I could persuade y’all to approve > this, but my life would be way simpler if proposals could only be submitted > in messages that had “proposal” in the subject line.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-29 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/29/19 10:41 PM, James Cook wrote: * It be dangerous, e.g. make backup lists less effective if things go wrong. R1698 might calim that the agora-proposal changing into a broken list never happened because it would have caused Agora to become ossified, but that wouldn't fix the problem that

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-29 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 at 22:45, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > On Sunday, July 28, 2019 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > [This is one of the most complicated distributions in my time in office. > > There will be errors; CoE and I'll try to correct. I've been working at this > > for well over 4

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-29 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 at 22:08, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 7/28/19 6:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I'm willing to try this voluntarily for Proposals and it might be > > interesting to broach the idea of requiring Subject format (that we've > > never > > done before). > > > Rule 2463 ("Motion of No

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-29 Thread Jason Cobb
Actually, minimum possible change would make that fine. Sorry about that. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 1:21 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > Doing a similar ratification is probably fine, but for that text > specifically, it might nuke everything that has happened in the game > since then. > > Jason Cobb > > On

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-29 Thread Jason Cobb
Doing a similar ratification is probably fine, but for that text specifically, it might nuke everything that has happened in the game since then. Jason Cobb On 7/28/19 6:45 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: If it's proving complicated to work out which proposals were actually distributed, would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-28 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/28/19 6:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I'm willing to try this voluntarily for Proposals and it might be interesting to broach the idea of requiring Subject format (that we've never done before). Rule 2463 ("Motion of No Confidence") requires a subject line that includes "MOTION OF NO

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 7/28/2019 2:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > What would be most helpful would be a flat deadline where I wouldn’t be > obliged to deal with anything after that time. Actually I was just contemplating bringing back Pending with the simple method "all proposals in the Proposal Pool become

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-28 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 2:38 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 7/28/2019 2:29 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > 8226: summary has "Contractual Delimitation" by Aris, text has > "Cancelling > > Proposals" by twg. > > > > There is no "Contractual Delimitation" in the text section, and > "Cancelling > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 7/28/2019 2:29 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: 8226: summary has "Contractual Delimitation" by Aris, text has "Cancelling Proposals" by twg. There is no "Contractual Delimitation" in the text section, and "Cancelling Proposals" does not appear in the summary section. This is a CoE. You know,