Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Cuddle Beam]

Which is the summary and which is the main though?

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:34 AM, Gaelan Steele  wrote:

> The list of changes may be a summary that is ignored ("if such a document
> can be divided into a summary section and a main section, where the only
> purpose of the summary section is to summarize information in the main
> section, and the main section is internally consistent, ratification of the
> document proceeds as if it contained only the main section”).
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Feb 11, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> >
> >> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny errors are
> > enough to stop it.
> >
> > To further support this, I believe scams rely precisely on a pedantic
> > reading of the rules and content, to have your "scam content" be
> impervious
> > to it would be special pleading.
> >
> > To support Tel's Ribbon, we DO have this:
> >
> > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> >
> >
> > Which is dated at 2018. So, while this IS a "clairvoyant" report because
> it
> > was dated at 2017, that ribbon at that date is still ratified.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> >> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> >> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> >> "On (date) there were no elections".
> >>
> >> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> >> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> >> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> >> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> >> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> >> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> >>
> >> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> >> errors are enough to stop it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >>> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> >>> report.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> 
>  On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
>  thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > It was in eir previous report.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
>  wrote:
> >
> >> CoE:
> >>
> >> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> >>
> >> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
>  for a
> >> week, as per R2201.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> >>> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >>>
> >>> Festivity: 0
> >>>
> >>> Players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>
> >>>   ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> >>> Aris   RMUV P
> >>> Corona
> >>> Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> >>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> >>> GaelanC MUV A
> >>> MurphyCB UV A
> >>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> >>> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> >>> omd   C  UVKA
> >>> pokes
> >>> Publius [1]   C MUV
> >>> Quazie  O C MUVKA
> >>> Telnaior   KA
> >>> Trigon
> >>> Josh T. [3]  UV A
> >>> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> >>>
> >>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>
> >>>   ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> >>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> >>> ATMunn  A
> >>> babelian U
> >>> Bayushi MU
> >>> BedeM W
> >>> Chuck   M
> >>> grokO  BMUV
> >>> Ienpw IIIUV
> >>> K W
> >>> Ørjan   M V
> >>> Roujo V
> >>> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> >>> stadjer   W
> >>> Tanner Swett  C M
> >>> Tekneek M
> >>> Tiger  BM
> >>> tmanthe2nd   UV
> >>> VeggiekeksC  UV
> >>> Yally   M
> >>> Zachary W [2]U
> >>>
> >>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >>> [2] Zachary Watterson
> >>> [3] 天火狐
> >>>
> >>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
> >> how
> >>> most Ribbons 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Gaelan Steele]

The list of changes may be a summary that is ignored ("if such a document can 
be divided into a summary section and a main section, where the only purpose of 
the summary section is to summarize information in the main section, and the 
main section is internally consistent, ratification of the document proceeds as 
if it contained only the main section”).

Gaelan

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> 
>> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny errors are
> enough to stop it.
> 
> To further support this, I believe scams rely precisely on a pedantic
> reading of the rules and content, to have your "scam content" be impervious
> to it would be special pleading.
> 
> To support Tel's Ribbon, we DO have this:
> 
> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> 
> 
> Which is dated at 2018. So, while this IS a "clairvoyant" report because it
> was dated at 2017, that ribbon at that date is still ratified.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
>> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
>> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
>> "On (date) there were no elections".
>> 
>> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
>> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
>> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
>> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
>> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
>> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
>> 
>> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
>> errors are enough to stop it.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>>> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
>>> report.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
>>> 
 Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
 
 On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
 thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> It was in eir previous report.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
 wrote:
> 
>> CoE:
>> 
>> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
>> 
>> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
 for a
>> week, as per R2201.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
>>> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
>>> 
>>> Festivity: 0
>>> 
>>> Players' ribbon holdings:
>>> 
>>>   ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
>>> Aris   RMUV P
>>> Corona
>>> Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
>>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
>>> GaelanC MUV A
>>> MurphyCB UV A
>>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
>>> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
>>> omd   C  UVKA
>>> pokes
>>> Publius [1]   C MUV
>>> Quazie  O C MUVKA
>>> Telnaior   KA
>>> Trigon
>>> Josh T. [3]  UV A
>>> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
>>> 
>>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
>>> 
>>>   ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
>>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
>>> ATMunn  A
>>> babelian U
>>> Bayushi MU
>>> BedeM W
>>> Chuck   M
>>> grokO  BMUV
>>> Ienpw IIIUV
>>> K W
>>> Ørjan   M V
>>> Roujo V
>>> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
>>> stadjer   W
>>> Tanner Swett  C M
>>> Tekneek M
>>> Tiger  BM
>>> tmanthe2nd   UV
>>> VeggiekeksC  UV
>>> Yally   M
>>> Zachary W [2]U
>>> 
>>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> [2] Zachary Watterson
>>> [3] 天火狐
>>> 
>>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
>> how
>>> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon;
>> you
>>> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for
>> a
>>> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
>>> recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
>>> work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
>>> 
>>> Approximate 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Kerim Aydin]

Alternate alternate: a document purporting to be values from a year ago
is no more purporting to hold the actual report then if someone published
"Here's what the switches were last year"

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> Or, alternate argument: such a document would fail to be "the value of each
> instance of that switch whose value is not its default value;" and
> therefore fail to even satisfy the reporting requirement.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:22, Alexis Hunt  wrote:
> 
> > I don't think self-ratification would work that way, though.
> > Self-ratification is clearly limited in scope to the listings themselves. I
> > don't think any surrounding disclaimers or the like are included.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:21, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The ratified report in man also has 2017.
> >>
> >> I'm sure that ratification works that way if you explicitly write
> >> "The following holding were true on 'date'" because we've done
> >> that before.  The question in my mind is whether a less directed
> >> "Date of this report" has the same effect.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >>
> >> > The ratified report was correct though, wasn't it?
> >> >
> >> > In any case, I'm not sure ratification works that way, but I'm not sure
> >> it
> >> > can't either. I don't recall any precedent about it, though.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:07, Kerim Aydin 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> >> > > date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> >> > > the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> >> > > "On (date) there were no elections".
> >> > >
> >> > > In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> >> > > for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> >> > > ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> >> > > ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> >> > > legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> >> > > from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> >> > >
> >> > > Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> >> > > errors are enough to stop it.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >> > > > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the
> >> previous
> >> > > > report.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> >> > > > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > It was in eir previous report.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -Aris
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam <
> >> cuddleb...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >  CoE:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its
> >> undoubted
> >> > > > > for a
> >> > > > > > > week, as per R2201.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> >> > > > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> >> > > > > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Festivity: 0
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >> > > > > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> >> > > > > > > > Aris   RMUV P
> >> > > > > > > > Corona
> >> > > > > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> >> > > > > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> >> > > > > > > > GaelanC MUV A
> >> > > > > > > > MurphyCB UV A
> >> > > > > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> >> > > > > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> >> > > > > > > > omd   C  UVKA
> >> > > > > > > > pokes
> >> > > > > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> >> > > > > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> >> > > > > > > > Telnaior   KA
> >> > > > > > > > Trigon
> >> > > > > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> >> > > > > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >> > > > > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> >> > > > > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> >> > > > > > > > ATMunn  A
> >> > > > > > > > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

Or, alternate argument: such a document would fail to be "the value of each
instance of that switch whose value is not its default value;" and
therefore fail to even satisfy the reporting requirement.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:22, Alexis Hunt  wrote:

> I don't think self-ratification would work that way, though.
> Self-ratification is clearly limited in scope to the listings themselves. I
> don't think any surrounding disclaimers or the like are included.
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:21, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The ratified report in man also has 2017.
>>
>> I'm sure that ratification works that way if you explicitly write
>> "The following holding were true on 'date'" because we've done
>> that before.  The question in my mind is whether a less directed
>> "Date of this report" has the same effect.
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>>
>> > The ratified report was correct though, wasn't it?
>> >
>> > In any case, I'm not sure ratification works that way, but I'm not sure
>> it
>> > can't either. I don't recall any precedent about it, though.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:07, Kerim Aydin 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
>> > > date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
>> > > the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
>> > > "On (date) there were no elections".
>> > >
>> > > In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
>> > > for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
>> > > ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
>> > > ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
>> > > legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
>> > > from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
>> > >
>> > > Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
>> > > errors are enough to stop it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>> > > > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the
>> previous
>> > > > report.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam 
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
>> > > > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > It was in eir previous report.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -Aris
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam <
>> cuddleb...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >  CoE:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its
>> undoubted
>> > > > > for a
>> > > > > > > week, as per R2201.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
>> > > > > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Festivity: 0
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>> > > > > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
>> > > > > > > > Aris   RMUV P
>> > > > > > > > Corona
>> > > > > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
>> > > > > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
>> > > > > > > > GaelanC MUV A
>> > > > > > > > MurphyCB UV A
>> > > > > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
>> > > > > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
>> > > > > > > > omd   C  UVKA
>> > > > > > > > pokes
>> > > > > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
>> > > > > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
>> > > > > > > > Telnaior   KA
>> > > > > > > > Trigon
>> > > > > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
>> > > > > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>> > > > > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
>> > > > > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
>> > > > > > > > ATMunn  A
>> > > > > > > > babelian U
>> > > > > > > > Bayushi MU
>> > > > > > > > BedeM W
>> > > > > > > > Chuck   M
>> > > > > > > > grokO  BMUV
>> > > > > > > > Ienpw IIIUV
>> > > > > > > > K W
>> > > > > > > > Ørjan   M V
>> > > > > > > > Roujo V
>> > > > > > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
>> > > > > > > > stadjer   

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

I don't think self-ratification would work that way, though.
Self-ratification is clearly limited in scope to the listings themselves. I
don't think any surrounding disclaimers or the like are included.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:21, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> The ratified report in man also has 2017.
>
> I'm sure that ratification works that way if you explicitly write
> "The following holding were true on 'date'" because we've done
> that before.  The question in my mind is whether a less directed
> "Date of this report" has the same effect.
>
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>
> > The ratified report was correct though, wasn't it?
> >
> > In any case, I'm not sure ratification works that way, but I'm not sure
> it
> > can't either. I don't recall any precedent about it, though.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:07, Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> > > date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> > > the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> > > "On (date) there were no elections".
> > >
> > > In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> > > for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> > > ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> > > ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> > > legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> > > from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> > >
> > > Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> > > errors are enough to stop it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > > > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the
> previous
> > > > report.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> > > > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It was in eir previous report.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Aris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam <
> cuddleb...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  CoE:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its
> undoubted
> > > > > for a
> > > > > > > week, as per R2201.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > > > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Festivity: 0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > > > > > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > > > > > > Corona
> > > > > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > > > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > > > > > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > > > > > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > > > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > > > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > > > > > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > > > > > > pokes
> > > > > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > > > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > > > > > > Telnaior   KA
> > > > > > > > Trigon
> > > > > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > > > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > > > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > > > > > > ATMunn  A
> > > > > > > > babelian U
> > > > > > > > Bayushi MU
> > > > > > > > BedeM W
> > > > > > > > Chuck   M
> > > > > > > > grokO  BMUV
> > > > > > > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > > > > > > K W
> > > > > > > > Ørjan   M V
> > > > > > > > Roujo V
> > > > > > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > > > > > > stadjer   W
> > > > > > > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > > > > > > Tekneek M
> > > > > > > > Tiger  BM
> > > > > > > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > > > > > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > > > > > > Yally   M
> > > > > > > > Zachary W [2]U
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > > > > > [2] 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Kerim Aydin]

The ratified report in man also has 2017.

I'm sure that ratification works that way if you explicitly write
"The following holding were true on 'date'" because we've done
that before.  The question in my mind is whether a less directed
"Date of this report" has the same effect.

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:

> The ratified report was correct though, wasn't it?
> 
> In any case, I'm not sure ratification works that way, but I'm not sure it
> can't either. I don't recall any precedent about it, though.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:07, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> > date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> > the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> > "On (date) there were no elections".
> >
> > In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> > for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> > ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> > ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> > legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> > from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> >
> > Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> > errors are enough to stop it.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> > > report.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> > > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It was in eir previous report.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Aris
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  CoE:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> > > > for a
> > > > > > week, as per R2201.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Festivity: 0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > > > > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > > > > > Corona
> > > > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > > > > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > > > > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > > > > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > > > > > pokes
> > > > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > > > > > Telnaior   KA
> > > > > > > Trigon
> > > > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > > > > > ATMunn  A
> > > > > > > babelian U
> > > > > > > Bayushi MU
> > > > > > > BedeM W
> > > > > > > Chuck   M
> > > > > > > grokO  BMUV
> > > > > > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > > > > > K W
> > > > > > > Ørjan   M V
> > > > > > > Roujo V
> > > > > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > > > > > stadjer   W
> > > > > > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > > > > > Tekneek M
> > > > > > > Tiger  BM
> > > > > > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > > > > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > > > > > Yally   M
> > > > > > > Zachary W [2]U
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > > > > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > > > > > > [3] 天火狐
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
> > how
> > > > > > > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon;
> > you
> > > > > > > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for
> > a
> > > > > > > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > > > > > > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > > > > > > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> > > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Kerim Aydin]

The transaction dates aren't self-ratifying, just the ribbon holdings
I think?

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that the date of the report is part of the report.
> 
> But, you do have information from the future in that report, which seems
> absurd, but we have ratified (deliberately!!!) absurdities before, so I
> don't think it matters. What's there is there.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:14 AM, Madeline  wrote:
> 
> > It... might be the case, but then I'm pretty certain it'd override the
> > previous self-ratifications and just make it so that everyone's had these
> > ribbons for a year.
> > Also, the rules are very strict on "nothing self-ratifies unless we
> > explicitly say it does", and nowhere does it say the date of the report is
> > something that is self-ratifying.
> >
> >
> > On 2018-02-12 13:07, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> >> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> >> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> >> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> >> "On (date) there were no elections".
> >>
> >> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> >> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> >> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> >> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> >> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> >> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> >>
> >> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> >> errors are enough to stop it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >>
> >>> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> >>> report.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> 
>  On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
>  thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  It was in eir previous report.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> >
>  wrote:
> 
> >   CoE:
> >>
> >> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> >>
> >> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> >>
> > for a
> 
> > week, as per R2201.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
> >>
> >> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> >>> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >>>
> >>> Festivity: 0
> >>>
> >>> Players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>
> >>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> >>> Aris   RMUV P
> >>> Corona
> >>> Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> >>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> >>> GaelanC MUV A
> >>> MurphyCB UV A
> >>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> >>> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> >>> omd   C  UVKA
> >>> pokes
> >>> Publius [1]   C MUV
> >>> Quazie  O C MUVKA
> >>> Telnaior   KA
> >>> Trigon
> >>> Josh T. [3]  UV A
> >>> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> >>>
> >>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>
> >>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> >>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> >>> ATMunn  A
> >>> babelian U
> >>> Bayushi MU
> >>> BedeM W
> >>> Chuck   M
> >>> grokO  BMUV
> >>> Ienpw IIIUV
> >>> K W
> >>> Ørjan   M V
> >>> Roujo V
> >>> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> >>> stadjer   W
> >>> Tanner Swett  C M
> >>> Tekneek M
> >>> Tiger  BM
> >>> tmanthe2nd   UV
> >>> VeggiekeksC  UV
> >>> Yally   M
> >>> Zachary W [2]U
> >>>
> >>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >>> [2] Zachary Watterson
> >>> [3] 天火狐
> >>>
> >>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> >>> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> >>> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> >>> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> >>> recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> >>> work differently; see rule 2438 for details.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

Reports as a whole don't ratify, though. Only parts of them do, and the
date is, as far as I know, not a part of it.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:16, Cuddle Beam  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that the date of the report is part of the report.
>
> But, you do have information from the future in that report, which seems
> absurd, but we have ratified (deliberately!!!) absurdities before, so I
> don't think it matters. What's there is there.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:14 AM, Madeline  wrote:
>
> > It... might be the case, but then I'm pretty certain it'd override the
> > previous self-ratifications and just make it so that everyone's had these
> > ribbons for a year.
> > Also, the rules are very strict on "nothing self-ratifies unless we
> > explicitly say it does", and nowhere does it say the date of the report
> is
> > something that is self-ratifying.
> >
> >
> > On 2018-02-12 13:07, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> >> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> >> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> >> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> >> "On (date) there were no elections".
> >>
> >> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> >> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> >> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> >> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> >> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> >> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> >>
> >> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> >> errors are enough to stop it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >>
> >>> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> >>> report.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> 
>  On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
>  thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  It was in eir previous report.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> >
>  wrote:
> 
> >   CoE:
> >>
> >> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> >>
> >> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> >>
> > for a
> 
> > week, as per R2201.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> >>> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >>>
> >>> Festivity: 0
> >>>
> >>> Players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>
> >>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> >>> Aris   RMUV P
> >>> Corona
> >>> Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> >>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> >>> GaelanC MUV A
> >>> MurphyCB UV A
> >>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> >>> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> >>> omd   C  UVKA
> >>> pokes
> >>> Publius [1]   C MUV
> >>> Quazie  O C MUVKA
> >>> Telnaior   KA
> >>> Trigon
> >>> Josh T. [3]  UV A
> >>> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> >>>
> >>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>
> >>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> >>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> >>> ATMunn  A
> >>> babelian U
> >>> Bayushi MU
> >>> BedeM W
> >>> Chuck   M
> >>> grokO  BMUV
> >>> Ienpw IIIUV
> >>> K W
> >>> Ørjan   M V
> >>> Roujo V
> >>> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> >>> stadjer   W
> >>> Tanner Swett  C M
> >>> Tekneek M
> >>> Tiger  BM
> >>> tmanthe2nd   UV
> >>> VeggiekeksC  UV
> >>> Yally   M
> >>> Zachary W [2]U
> >>>
> >>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >>> [2] Zachary Watterson
> >>> [3] 天火狐
> >>>
> >>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
> how
> >>> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> >>> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> >>> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> >>> recently), any player can "award" you that 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Cuddle Beam]

I'm pretty sure that the date of the report is part of the report.

But, you do have information from the future in that report, which seems
absurd, but we have ratified (deliberately!!!) absurdities before, so I
don't think it matters. What's there is there.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:14 AM, Madeline  wrote:

> It... might be the case, but then I'm pretty certain it'd override the
> previous self-ratifications and just make it so that everyone's had these
> ribbons for a year.
> Also, the rules are very strict on "nothing self-ratifies unless we
> explicitly say it does", and nowhere does it say the date of the report is
> something that is self-ratifying.
>
>
> On 2018-02-12 13:07, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
>> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
>> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
>> "On (date) there were no elections".
>>
>> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
>> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
>> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
>> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
>> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
>> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
>>
>> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
>> errors are enough to stop it.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>>
>>> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
>>> report.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.

 On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
 thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

 It was in eir previous report.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
>
 wrote:

>   CoE:
>>
>> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
>>
>> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
>>
> for a

> week, as per R2201.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
>>
>> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
>>> --
>>>
>>> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
>>> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
>>>
>>> Festivity: 0
>>>
>>> Players' ribbon holdings:
>>>
>>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
>>> Aris   RMUV P
>>> Corona
>>> Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
>>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
>>> GaelanC MUV A
>>> MurphyCB UV A
>>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
>>> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
>>> omd   C  UVKA
>>> pokes
>>> Publius [1]   C MUV
>>> Quazie  O C MUVKA
>>> Telnaior   KA
>>> Trigon
>>> Josh T. [3]  UV A
>>> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
>>>
>>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
>>>
>>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
>>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
>>> ATMunn  A
>>> babelian U
>>> Bayushi MU
>>> BedeM W
>>> Chuck   M
>>> grokO  BMUV
>>> Ienpw IIIUV
>>> K W
>>> Ørjan   M V
>>> Roujo V
>>> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
>>> stadjer   W
>>> Tanner Swett  C M
>>> Tekneek M
>>> Tiger  BM
>>> tmanthe2nd   UV
>>> VeggiekeksC  UV
>>> Yally   M
>>> Zachary W [2]U
>>>
>>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> [2] Zachary Watterson
>>> [3] 天火狐
>>>
>>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
>>> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
>>> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
>>> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
>>> recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
>>> work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
>>>
>>> Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
>>> Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
>>> Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
>>> GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
>>> Cyan Deputise for an office
>>> Blue Judge a CFJ without 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Madeline]

It... might be the case, but then I'm pretty certain it'd override the 
previous self-ratifications and just make it so that everyone's had 
these ribbons for a year.
Also, the rules are very strict on "nothing self-ratifies unless we 
explicitly say it does", and nowhere does it say the date of the report 
is something that is self-ratifying.


On 2018-02-12 13:07, Kerim Aydin wrote:

When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
"On (date) there were no elections".

In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.

Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
errors are enough to stop it.


On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:

The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
report.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:


Oh shit, true. Well, OK.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:


It was in eir previous report.

-Aris

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 

wrote:

  CoE:

2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)

You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted

for a

week, as per R2201.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:


TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
--

Date of this report: 2017-02-12
Date of last report: 2017-01-31

Festivity: 0

Players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
Aris   RMUV P
Corona
Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
GaelanC MUV A
MurphyCB UV A
nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
o  ROG BMUV   W AT
omd   C  UVKA
pokes
Publius [1]   C MUV
Quazie  O C MUVKA
Telnaior   KA
Trigon
Josh T. [3]  UV A
V.J. Rada   MU   LW

Non-players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
ATMunn  A
babelian U
Bayushi MU
BedeM W
Chuck   M
grokO  BMUV
Ienpw IIIUV
K W
Ørjan   M V
Roujo V
Sprocklem   MUV   W A
stadjer   W
Tanner Swett  C M
Tekneek M
Tiger  BM
tmanthe2nd   UV
VeggiekeksC  UV
Yally   M
Zachary W [2]U

[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[2] Zachary Watterson
[3] 天火狐

The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
work differently; see rule 2438 for details.

Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
Cyan Deputise for an office
Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
Indigo   Gain a degree
Platinum Become the Speaker
Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by

someone

who has never gifted a White Ribbon
blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
have count)

History of Ribbon holdings:
2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
2015-05-01  aranea   

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Cuddle Beam]

> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny errors are
enough to stop it.

To further support this, I believe scams rely precisely on a pedantic
reading of the rules and content, to have your "scam content" be impervious
to it would be special pleading.

To support Tel's Ribbon, we DO have this:

2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)


Which is dated at 2018. So, while this IS a "clairvoyant" report because it
was dated at 2017, that ribbon at that date is still ratified.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> "On (date) there were no elections".
>
> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
>
> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> errors are enough to stop it.
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> > report.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> >
> > > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It was in eir previous report.
> > > >
> > > > -Aris
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  CoE:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> > > > >
> > > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> > > for a
> > > > > week, as per R2201.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Festivity: 0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > > > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > > > > Corona
> > > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > > > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > > > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > > > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > > > > pokes
> > > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > > > > Telnaior   KA
> > > > > > Trigon
> > > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > > > > ATMunn  A
> > > > > > babelian U
> > > > > > Bayushi MU
> > > > > > BedeM W
> > > > > > Chuck   M
> > > > > > grokO  BMUV
> > > > > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > > > > K W
> > > > > > Ørjan   M V
> > > > > > Roujo V
> > > > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > > > > stadjer   W
> > > > > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > > > > Tekneek M
> > > > > > Tiger  BM
> > > > > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > > > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > > > > Yally   M
> > > > > > Zachary W [2]U
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > > > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > > > > > [3] 天火狐
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
> how
> > > > > > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon;
> you
> > > > > > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for
> a
> > > > > > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > > > > > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > > > > > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > > > > > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+
> rule
> > > > > > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > > > > > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

The ratified report was correct though, wasn't it?

In any case, I'm not sure ratification works that way, but I'm not sure it
can't either. I don't recall any precedent about it, though.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 21:07, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> "On (date) there were no elections".
>
> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
>
> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> errors are enough to stop it.
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> > report.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> >
> > > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It was in eir previous report.
> > > >
> > > > -Aris
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  CoE:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> > > > >
> > > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> > > for a
> > > > > week, as per R2201.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Festivity: 0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > > > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > > > > Corona
> > > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > > > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > > > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > > > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > > > > pokes
> > > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > > > > Telnaior   KA
> > > > > > Trigon
> > > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > > > > ATMunn  A
> > > > > > babelian U
> > > > > > Bayushi MU
> > > > > > BedeM W
> > > > > > Chuck   M
> > > > > > grokO  BMUV
> > > > > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > > > > K W
> > > > > > Ørjan   M V
> > > > > > Roujo V
> > > > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > > > > stadjer   W
> > > > > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > > > > Tekneek M
> > > > > > Tiger  BM
> > > > > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > > > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > > > > Yally   M
> > > > > > Zachary W [2]U
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > > > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > > > > > [3] 天火狐
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
> how
> > > > > > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon;
> you
> > > > > > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for
> a
> > > > > > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > > > > > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > > > > > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > > > > > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+
> rule
> > > > > > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > > > > > GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late
> duties
> > > > > > Cyan Deputise for an office
> > > > > > Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> > > > > > Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> > > > > > Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Kerim Aydin]

When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
the values for that date.  Just like my recent attempt to ratify
"On (date) there were no elections".

In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
for a year ago.  However, we have reports from the fall that
ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
ribbons.  So I think your attempt failed...perhaps?  That now the
legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.

Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
errors are enough to stop it.


On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> report.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> 
> > Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It was in eir previous report.
> > >
> > > -Aris
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >  CoE:
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> > > >
> > > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> > for a
> > > > week, as per R2201.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > > > >
> > > > > Festivity: 0
> > > > >
> > > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > >
> > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > > > Corona
> > > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > > > pokes
> > > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > > > Telnaior   KA
> > > > > Trigon
> > > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > > > >
> > > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > > > >
> > > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > > > ATMunn  A
> > > > > babelian U
> > > > > Bayushi MU
> > > > > BedeM W
> > > > > Chuck   M
> > > > > grokO  BMUV
> > > > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > > > K W
> > > > > Ørjan   M V
> > > > > Roujo V
> > > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > > > stadjer   W
> > > > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > > > Tekneek M
> > > > > Tiger  BM
> > > > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > > > Yally   M
> > > > > Zachary W [2]U
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > > > > [3] 天火狐
> > > > >
> > > > > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> > > > > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> > > > > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> > > > > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > > > > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > > > > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> > > > >
> > > > > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > > > > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
> > > > > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > > > > GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
> > > > > Cyan Deputise for an office
> > > > > Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> > > > > Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> > > > > Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> > > > > Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> > > > > Indigo   Gain a degree
> > > > > Platinum Become the Speaker
> > > > > Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> > > > > WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by
> > someone
> > > > >who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> > > > > blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
> > > > > GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> > > > > Transparent  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Cuddle Beam]

Occasional profanity is PG-13 so no worries lol

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:41 AM, ATMunn  wrote:

> pls no swearing kthxbye
>
>
> On 2/11/2018 7:19 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>
>> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It was in eir previous report.
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   CoE:

 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)

 You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted for
 a
 week, as per R2201.

 On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:

 TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> --
>
> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
>
> Festivity: 0
>
> Players' ribbon holdings:
>
> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> Aris   RMUV P
> Corona
> Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> GaelanC MUV A
> MurphyCB UV A
> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> omd   C  UVKA
> pokes
> Publius [1]   C MUV
> Quazie  O C MUVKA
> Telnaior   KA
> Trigon
> Josh T. [3]  UV A
> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
>
> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
>
> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> ATMunn  A
> babelian U
> Bayushi MU
> BedeM W
> Chuck   M
> grokO  BMUV
> Ienpw IIIUV
> K W
> Ørjan   M V
> Roujo V
> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> stadjer   W
> Tanner Swett  C M
> Tekneek M
> Tiger  BM
> tmanthe2nd   UV
> VeggiekeksC  UV
> Yally   M
> Zachary W [2]U
>
> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> [2] Zachary Watterson
> [3] 天火狐
>
> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
>
> Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
> Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
> Cyan Deputise for an office
> Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> Indigo   Gain a degree
> Platinum Become the Speaker
> Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by someone
> who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
> GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
> have count)
>
> History of Ribbon holdings:
> 2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
> 2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
> 2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
> 2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
> 2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
> 2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
> 2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
> 2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
> 2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
> 2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
> 2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
> 2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
> 2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
> 2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
> 2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
> 2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
> 2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
> 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Madeline]

The way the rule is written, I don't think it is a relative duration...?

On 2018-02-12 12:40, Alexis Hunt wrote:

"These definitions do not apply to relative durations (e.g. "within
 days after ")."


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 20:39, Madeline  wrote:


I put in a CFJ earlier, I think right now self-ratification requires a
full Agoran week (which is why I waited this long).

On 2018-02-12 12:37, Alexis Hunt wrote:

The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
report.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:


Oh shit, true. Well, OK.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:


It was in eir previous report.

-Aris

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 

wrote:

   CoE:

2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)

You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted

for a

week, as per R2201.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:


TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
--

Date of this report: 2017-02-12
Date of last report: 2017-01-31

Festivity: 0

Players' ribbon holdings:

 ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
Aris   RMUV P
Corona
Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
GaelanC MUV A
MurphyCB UV A
nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
o  ROG BMUV   W AT
omd   C  UVKA
pokes
Publius [1]   C MUV
Quazie  O C MUVKA
Telnaior   KA
Trigon
Josh T. [3]  UV A
V.J. Rada   MU   LW

Non-players' ribbon holdings:

 ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
ATMunn  A
babelian U
Bayushi MU
BedeM W
Chuck   M
grokO  BMUV
Ienpw IIIUV
K W
Ørjan   M V
Roujo V
Sprocklem   MUV   W A
stadjer   W
Tanner Swett  C M
Tekneek M
Tiger  BM
tmanthe2nd   UV
VeggiekeksC  UV
Yally   M
Zachary W [2]U

[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[2] Zachary Watterson
[3] 天火狐

The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
work differently; see rule 2438 for details.

Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
Cyan Deputise for an office
Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
Indigo   Gain a degree
Platinum Become the Speaker
Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by

someone

 who has never gifted a White Ribbon
blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
 have count)

History of Ribbon holdings:
2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
2015-05-22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
2015-05-23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
2015-05-24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
2015-06-09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
2015-06-29  Alexis  +M
2015-06-29  aranea  +M
2015-06-29  ais523  +M
2015-06-29  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[ATMunn]

pls no swearing kthxbye

On 2/11/2018 7:19 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:

Oh shit, true. Well, OK.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:


It was in eir previous report.

-Aris

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam  wrote:


  CoE:

2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)

You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted for a
week, as per R2201.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:


TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
--

Date of this report: 2017-02-12
Date of last report: 2017-01-31

Festivity: 0

Players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
Aris   RMUV P
Corona
Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
GaelanC MUV A
MurphyCB UV A
nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
o  ROG BMUV   W AT
omd   C  UVKA
pokes
Publius [1]   C MUV
Quazie  O C MUVKA
Telnaior   KA
Trigon
Josh T. [3]  UV A
V.J. Rada   MU   LW

Non-players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
ATMunn  A
babelian U
Bayushi MU
BedeM W
Chuck   M
grokO  BMUV
Ienpw IIIUV
K W
Ørjan   M V
Roujo V
Sprocklem   MUV   W A
stadjer   W
Tanner Swett  C M
Tekneek M
Tiger  BM
tmanthe2nd   UV
VeggiekeksC  UV
Yally   M
Zachary W [2]U

[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[2] Zachary Watterson
[3] 天火狐

The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
work differently; see rule 2438 for details.

Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
Cyan Deputise for an office
Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
Indigo   Gain a degree
Platinum Become the Speaker
Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by someone
who has never gifted a White Ribbon
blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
have count)

History of Ribbon holdings:
2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
2015-05-22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
2015-05-23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
2015-05-24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
2015-06-09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
2015-06-29  Alexis  +M
2015-06-29  aranea  +M
2015-06-29  ais523  +M
2015-06-29  the Warrigal+M
2015-06-29  Sprocklem   +M
2015-06-29  Tiger   +M
2015-06-29  G.  +M
2015-06-29  Bede+M
2015-06-30  Gaelan  +M
2015-06-30  aranea  +A
2015-06-30  Alexis  +O (Proposal 7753)
2015-07-10  G.  +G (as Arbitor)
2015-07-12  aranea  +V ("Unchampion")
2015-07-26  Alexis  +A
2015-07-28  aranea  +B (CFJ 3449)
2015-08-03  ais523  +V ("Silver Quill 2015/07")
2015-08-10  Tiger   +B (CFJ 3451)
2015-08-11  omd 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

"These definitions do not apply to relative durations (e.g. "within
 days after ")."


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 20:39, Madeline  wrote:

> I put in a CFJ earlier, I think right now self-ratification requires a
> full Agoran week (which is why I waited this long).
>
> On 2018-02-12 12:37, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> > report.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> >
> >> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It was in eir previous report.
> >>>
> >>> -Aris
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> >> wrote:
>    CoE:
> 
>  2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> 
>  You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> >> for a
>  week, as per R2201.
> 
>  On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
> 
> > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > --
> >
> > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >
> > Festivity: 0
> >
> > Players' ribbon holdings:
> >
> > ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > Aris   RMUV P
> > Corona
> > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > GaelanC MUV A
> > MurphyCB UV A
> > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > omd   C  UVKA
> > pokes
> > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > Telnaior   KA
> > Trigon
> > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> >
> > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >
> > ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > ATMunn  A
> > babelian U
> > Bayushi MU
> > BedeM W
> > Chuck   M
> > grokO  BMUV
> > Ienpw IIIUV
> > K W
> > Ørjan   M V
> > Roujo V
> > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > stadjer   W
> > Tanner Swett  C M
> > Tekneek M
> > Tiger  BM
> > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > Yally   M
> > Zachary W [2]U
> >
> > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > [3] 天火狐
> >
> > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> >
> > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
> > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
> > Cyan Deputise for an office
> > Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> > Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> > Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> > Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> > Indigo   Gain a degree
> > Platinum Become the Speaker
> > Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> > WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by
> >> someone
> > who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> > blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
> > GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> > Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
> > have count)
> >
> > History of Ribbon holdings:
> > 2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
> > 2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
> > 2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
> > 2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
> > 2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
> > 2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
> > 2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
> > 2015-05-01  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Madeline]

I put in a CFJ earlier, I think right now self-ratification requires a 
full Agoran week (which is why I waited this long).


On 2018-02-12 12:37, Alexis Hunt wrote:

The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
report.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:


Oh shit, true. Well, OK.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:


It was in eir previous report.

-Aris

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 

wrote:

  CoE:

2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)

You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted

for a

week, as per R2201.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:


TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
--

Date of this report: 2017-02-12
Date of last report: 2017-01-31

Festivity: 0

Players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
Aris   RMUV P
Corona
Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
GaelanC MUV A
MurphyCB UV A
nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
o  ROG BMUV   W AT
omd   C  UVKA
pokes
Publius [1]   C MUV
Quazie  O C MUVKA
Telnaior   KA
Trigon
Josh T. [3]  UV A
V.J. Rada   MU   LW

Non-players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
ATMunn  A
babelian U
Bayushi MU
BedeM W
Chuck   M
grokO  BMUV
Ienpw IIIUV
K W
Ørjan   M V
Roujo V
Sprocklem   MUV   W A
stadjer   W
Tanner Swett  C M
Tekneek M
Tiger  BM
tmanthe2nd   UV
VeggiekeksC  UV
Yally   M
Zachary W [2]U

[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[2] Zachary Watterson
[3] 天火狐

The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
work differently; see rule 2438 for details.

Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
Cyan Deputise for an office
Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
Indigo   Gain a degree
Platinum Become the Speaker
Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by

someone

who has never gifted a White Ribbon
blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
have count)

History of Ribbon holdings:
2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
2015-05-22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
2015-05-23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
2015-05-24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
2015-06-09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
2015-06-29  Alexis  +M
2015-06-29  aranea  +M
2015-06-29  ais523  +M
2015-06-29  the Warrigal+M
2015-06-29  Sprocklem   +M
2015-06-29  Tiger   +M
2015-06-29  G.  +M
2015-06-29  Bede+M
2015-06-30  Gaelan  +M
2015-06-30  aranea  +A
2015-06-30  Alexis  +O (Proposal 7753)
2015-07-10  G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
report.


On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam  wrote:

> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It was in eir previous report.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam 
> wrote:
> >
> > >  CoE:
> > >
> > > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> > >
> > > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> for a
> > > week, as per R2201.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
> > >
> > > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > > >
> > > > Festivity: 0
> > > >
> > > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > > >
> > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > > Corona
> > > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > > pokes
> > > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > > Telnaior   KA
> > > > Trigon
> > > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > > >
> > > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > > >
> > > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > > ATMunn  A
> > > > babelian U
> > > > Bayushi MU
> > > > BedeM W
> > > > Chuck   M
> > > > grokO  BMUV
> > > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > > K W
> > > > Ørjan   M V
> > > > Roujo V
> > > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > > stadjer   W
> > > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > > Tekneek M
> > > > Tiger  BM
> > > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > > Yally   M
> > > > Zachary W [2]U
> > > >
> > > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > > > [3] 天火狐
> > > >
> > > > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> > > > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> > > > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> > > > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > > > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > > > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> > > >
> > > > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > > > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
> > > > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > > > GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
> > > > Cyan Deputise for an office
> > > > Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> > > > Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> > > > Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> > > > Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> > > > Indigo   Gain a degree
> > > > Platinum Become the Speaker
> > > > Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> > > > WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by
> someone
> > > >who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> > > > blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
> > > > GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> > > > Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
> > > >have count)
> > > >
> > > > History of Ribbon holdings:
> > > > 2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
> > > > 2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
> > > > 2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
> > > > 2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
> > > > 2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
> > > > 2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
> > > > 2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
> > > > 2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
> > > > 2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
> > > > 2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
> > > > 2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
> > > > 2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
> > > > 2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
> > > > 2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
> > > > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Cuddle Beam]

Oh shit, true. Well, OK.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It was in eir previous report.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam  wrote:
>
> >  CoE:
> >
> > 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
> >
> > You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted for a
> > week, as per R2201.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
> >
> > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > > --
> > >
> > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> > >
> > > Festivity: 0
> > >
> > > Players' ribbon holdings:
> > >
> > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > > Aris   RMUV P
> > > Corona
> > > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > > GaelanC MUV A
> > > MurphyCB UV A
> > > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > > omd   C  UVKA
> > > pokes
> > > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > > Telnaior   KA
> > > Trigon
> > > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> > >
> > > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> > >
> > >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > > ATMunn  A
> > > babelian U
> > > Bayushi MU
> > > BedeM W
> > > Chuck   M
> > > grokO  BMUV
> > > Ienpw IIIUV
> > > K W
> > > Ørjan   M V
> > > Roujo V
> > > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > > stadjer   W
> > > Tanner Swett  C M
> > > Tekneek M
> > > Tiger  BM
> > > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > > Yally   M
> > > Zachary W [2]U
> > >
> > > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > > [3] 天火狐
> > >
> > > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> > > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> > > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> > > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> > >
> > > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
> > > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > > GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
> > > Cyan Deputise for an office
> > > Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> > > Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> > > Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> > > Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> > > Indigo   Gain a degree
> > > Platinum Become the Speaker
> > > Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> > > WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by someone
> > >who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> > > blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
> > > GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> > > Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
> > >have count)
> > >
> > > History of Ribbon holdings:
> > > 2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
> > > 2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
> > > 2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
> > > 2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
> > > 2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
> > > 2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
> > > 2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
> > > 2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
> > > 2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
> > > 2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
> > > 2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
> > > 2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
> > > 2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
> > > 2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
> > > 2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
> > > 2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
> > > 2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
> > > 2015-05-22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
> > > 2015-05-23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
> > > 2015-05-24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
> > > 2015-06-09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
> > > 2015-06-29  Alexis  +M
> > > 

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Madeline]

Check the last report.

On 2018-02-12 11:15, Cuddle Beam wrote:

  CoE:

2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)

You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted for a
week, as per R2201.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:


TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
--

Date of this report: 2017-02-12
Date of last report: 2017-01-31

Festivity: 0

Players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
Aris   RMUV P
Corona
Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
GaelanC MUV A
MurphyCB UV A
nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
o  ROG BMUV   W AT
omd   C  UVKA
pokes
Publius [1]   C MUV
Quazie  O C MUVKA
Telnaior   KA
Trigon
Josh T. [3]  UV A
V.J. Rada   MU   LW

Non-players' ribbon holdings:

ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
ATMunn  A
babelian U
Bayushi MU
BedeM W
Chuck   M
grokO  BMUV
Ienpw IIIUV
K W
Ørjan   M V
Roujo V
Sprocklem   MUV   W A
stadjer   W
Tanner Swett  C M
Tekneek M
Tiger  BM
tmanthe2nd   UV
VeggiekeksC  UV
Yally   M
Zachary W [2]U

[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[2] Zachary Watterson
[3] 天火狐

The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
work differently; see rule 2438 for details.

Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
Cyan Deputise for an office
Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
Indigo   Gain a degree
Platinum Become the Speaker
Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by someone
who has never gifted a White Ribbon
blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
have count)

History of Ribbon holdings:
2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
2015-05-22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
2015-05-23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
2015-05-24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
2015-06-09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
2015-06-29  Alexis  +M
2015-06-29  aranea  +M
2015-06-29  ais523  +M
2015-06-29  the Warrigal+M
2015-06-29  Sprocklem   +M
2015-06-29  Tiger   +M
2015-06-29  G.  +M
2015-06-29  Bede+M
2015-06-30  Gaelan  +M
2015-06-30  aranea  +A
2015-06-30  Alexis  +O (Proposal 7753)
2015-07-10  G.  +G (as Arbitor)
2015-07-12  aranea  +V ("Unchampion")
2015-07-26  Alexis  +A
2015-07-28  aranea  +B (CFJ 3449)
2015-08-03  ais523  +V ("Silver Quill 2015/07")
2015-08-10  Tiger   +B (CFJ 3451)
2015-08-11  omd +K (by Proposal 7784)
2015-08-11  ais523  +K (by Proposal 7784)
2015-08-11  Alexis  +K (by Proposal 7784)
2015-08-11  Alexis  +R (Proposal 7772)
2015-08-11  Alexis  +P
2015-08-17  omd 

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Aris Merchant]

It was in eir previous report.

-Aris

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam  wrote:

>  CoE:
>
> 2018-02-12  Telnaior+K (self-ratification)
>
> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted for a
> week, as per R2201.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior  wrote:
>
> > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> > --
> >
> > Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> > Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >
> > Festivity: 0
> >
> > Players' ribbon holdings:
> >
> >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> > Aris   RMUV P
> > Corona
> > Cuddle Beam   C M V   W
> > G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> > GaelanC MUV A
> > MurphyCB UV A
> > nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> > o  ROG BMUV   W AT
> > omd   C  UVKA
> > pokes
> > Publius [1]   C MUV
> > Quazie  O C MUVKA
> > Telnaior   KA
> > Trigon
> > Josh T. [3]  UV A
> > V.J. Rada   MU   LW
> >
> > Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >
> >ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> > ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> > aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> > ATMunn  A
> > babelian U
> > Bayushi MU
> > BedeM W
> > Chuck   M
> > grokO  BMUV
> > Ienpw IIIUV
> > K W
> > Ørjan   M V
> > Roujo V
> > Sprocklem   MUV   W A
> > stadjer   W
> > Tanner Swett  C M
> > Tekneek M
> > Tiger  BM
> > tmanthe2nd   UV
> > VeggiekeksC  UV
> > Yally   M
> > Zachary W [2]U
> >
> > [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > [2] Zachary Watterson
> > [3] 天火狐
> >
> > The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
> > most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
> > then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
> > Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> > recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> > work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> >
> > Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> > Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
> > Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> > GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
> > Cyan Deputise for an office
> > Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> > Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> > Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> > Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> > Indigo   Gain a degree
> > Platinum Become the Speaker
> > Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> > WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by someone
> >who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> > blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
> > GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> > Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
> >have count)
> >
> > History of Ribbon holdings:
> > 2014-11-04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
> > 2014-11-04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
> > 2014-11-06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
> > 2014-11-09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
> > 2014-11-14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
> > 2015-01-07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
> > 2015-04-17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
> > 2015-05-01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
> > 2015-05-01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
> > 2015-05-01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
> > 2015-05-01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
> > 2015-05-01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
> > 2015-05-01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
> > 2015-05-01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
> > 2015-05-12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
> > 2015-05-12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
> > 2015-05-13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
> > 2015-05-22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
> > 2015-05-23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
> > 2015-05-24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
> > 2015-06-09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
> > 2015-06-29  Alexis  +M
> > 2015-06-29  aranea  +M
> > 2015-06-29  ais523  +M
> > 2015-06-29  the Warrigal+M
> > 2015-06-29  Sprocklem   +M
> > 2015-06-29  Tiger   +M
> > 2015-06-29  G.  +M
> > 2015-06-29  Bede+M
> > 2015-06-30  Gaelan  +M
> > 2015-06-30  aranea  +A
> > 2015-06-30  Alexis  +O (Proposal 7753)
> > 

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

That statement does not self-ratify.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:17 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> 
> coe i'm not a player
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Alexis Hunt  wrote:
>> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
>> --
>> 
>> Date of this report: Dec 01 Nov 17
>> Date of last report: Fri 03 Nov 17
>> 
>> Festivity: 0
>> 
>> Players' ribbon holdings:
>> 
>>   ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
>> Aris   RMUV
>> ATMunn  A
>> Cuddle Beam M V   W
>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
>> GaelanC MUV A
>> MurphyCB UV A
>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
>> o  ROG BMUV   W AT
>> omd   C  UVKA
>> Publius [1]   C MUV
>> Quazie  O C MUVKA
>> V.J. Rada   MU   LW
>> 天火狐   UV A
>> 
>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
>> 
>>   ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
>> babelian U
>> Bayushi MU
>> BedeM W
>> Chuck   M
>> grokO  BMUV
>> K W
>> Ienpw IIIUV
>> Ørjan   M V
>> Roujo V
>> stadjer   W
>> Sprocklem   MUV   W A
>> Tanner Swett  C M
>> Tekneek M
>> Tiger  BM
>> tmanthe2nd   UV
>> VeggiekeksC  UV
>> Yally   M
>> Zachary W [2]U
>> 
>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> [2] Zachary Watterson
>> 
>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to how
>> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon; you
>> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for a
>> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
>> recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
>> work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
>> 
>> Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
>> Red  Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+ rule
>> Orange   Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
>> GreenHold an elected office for 30 days with no late duties
>> Cyan Deputise for an office
>> Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
>> Magenta  Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
>> Ultraviolet  Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
>> Violet   Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
>> Indigo   Gain a degree
>> Platinum Become the Speaker
>> Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
>> WhiteNever have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by someone
>>   who has never gifted a White Ribbon
>> blacKAwardable only by proposal or scam
>> GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
>> Transparent  Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you already
>>   have count)
>> 
>> History of Ribbon holdings:
>> 14/11/04  aranea  +W (new to Ribbons)
>> 14/11/04  aranea  +C (deputising for Tailor)
>> 14/11/06  Sprocklem   +W (new to Ribbons)
>> 14/11/09  omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
>> 14/11/14  Alexis  +C (deputising for Herald)
>> 15/01/07  G.  +C (deputising for Referee)
>> 15/04/17  stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
>> 15/05/01  aranea  +R (Proposal 7736)
>> 15/05/01  aranea  +O (Proposal 7735)
>> 15/05/01  aranea  +L (Proposal 7735-37)
>> 15/05/01  G.  +R (Proposal 7734)
>> 15/05/01  G.  +O (Proposal 7738)
>> 15/05/01  G.  +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
>> 15/05/01  G.  +P (appointed Speaker)
>> 15/05/12  ais523  +O (Proposal 7742)
>> 15/05/12  Alexis  +P (appointed Speaker)
>> 15/05/13  Alexis  +G (as Tailor)
>> 15/05/22  G.  +B (CFJ 3448)
>> 15/05/23  Alexis  +B (CFJ 3447)
>> 15/05/24  G.  +W (gifted by aranea)
>> 15/06/09  ais523  +G (as Prime Minister)
>> 15/06/29  Alexis  +M
>> 15/06/29  aranea  +M
>> 15/06/29  ais523  +M
>> 15/06/29  the Warrigal+M
>> 15/06/29  Sprocklem   +M
>> 15/06/29  Tiger   +M
>> 15/06/29  G.  +M
>> 15/06/29  Bede+M
>> 15/06/30  Gaelan  +M
>> 15/06/30  aranea  +A
>> 15/06/30  Alexis  +O (Proposal 7753)
>> 15/07/10  G.  +G (as Arbitor)
>> 15/07/12  aranea  +V ("Unchampion")
>> 15/07/26  Alexis  +A
>> 15/07/28  aranea  +B (CFJ 3449)
>> 15/08/03  ais523  +V ("Silver Quill 2015/07")
>> 15/08/10  Tiger   +B (CFJ 3451)
>> 15/08/11  omd +K (by Proposal 7784)
>> 

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 at 16:18 VJ Rada  wrote:

> coe i'm not a player
>

Ah true, that's not part of the report though so I'm not treating this as a
formal CoE.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[ATMunn]

Does saying "tracked by the Registrar" mean they have to be in e's report, or e 
just has to, well, keep track of them?

On 11/4/2017 5:59 PM, VJ Rada wrote:

You also aren't tracking player's emotion switches, which as you should know, 
must be tracked by the Registrar.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
> wrote:

No, so you are correct this fails.

On 11/04/2017 02:31 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> 
 > >> wrote:
 >
 >     I award myself a green ribbon for Registrar.
 >
 >
 > Did you attempt to deregister players per R2139? I can't find the 
message.

--

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus





--
 From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 at 18:24 VJ Rada  wrote:

> Yeah but the upshot is I think you get your green ribbon, because even if
> your recent weekly report was not a report, you're not late yet, and you're
> not late on the deregistrations either
>

E missed the deadline on October 8; that is fewer than 30 days ago.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

An obligation to perform a duty is violated at the deadline, not before or
after.

On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 at 18:03 VJ Rada  wrote:

> You know though, Publius, the rules don't require you to do it in your
> monthly report, they require it in the first WEEK of every month. So you
> can do it now.
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:59 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>
>> You also aren't tracking player's emotion switches, which as you should
>> know, must be tracked by the Registrar.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No, so you are correct this fails.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2017 02:31 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>>> > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> > >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I award myself a green ribbon for Registrar.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Did you attempt to deregister players per R2139? I can't find the
>>> message.
>>>
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
>>
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[VJ Rada]

You know though, Publius, the rules don't require you to do it in your
monthly report, they require it in the first WEEK of every month. So you
can do it now.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:59 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:

> You also aren't tracking player's emotion switches, which as you should
> know, must be tracked by the Registrar.
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No, so you are correct this fails.
>>
>> On 11/04/2017 02:31 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>> > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> > > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > I award myself a green ribbon for Registrar.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did you attempt to deregister players per R2139? I can't find the
>> message.
>>
>> --
>> 
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada
>



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[VJ Rada]

You also aren't tracking player's emotion switches, which as you should
know, must be tracked by the Registrar.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, so you are correct this fails.
>
> On 11/04/2017 02:31 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > I award myself a green ribbon for Registrar.
> >
> >
> > Did you attempt to deregister players per R2139? I can't find the
> message.
>
> --
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>
>
>


-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

No, so you are correct this fails.

On 11/04/2017 02:31 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  > wrote:
>
> I award myself a green ribbon for Registrar.
>
>
> Did you attempt to deregister players per R2139? I can't find the message.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus




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DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

[Alexis Hunt]

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 06:19 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I award myself a green ribbon for Registrar.
>

Did you attempt to deregister players per R2139? I can't find the message.