Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[VJ Rada]

I was nearly like "maybe i should deregister to give agora more shinies"
and then i realized...

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:

>
> > On Nov 16, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Alexis Hunt  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 20:33 Aris Merchant <
> > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I withdraw my support in light of zombies passing. I'll wait to object
> >> to see if anyone finds any more problems with the resolution.
> >>
> >> -Aris
> >>
> >
> > I deregister Ienpw III, Bayushi, and ProofTechnique, with 3 Agoran
> Consent,
> > resolving Telnaior's intent to do so. G., ATMunn, V.J Rada, and I
> > supported. Only V.J. Rada objected.
> >
> > -Alexis
>
> I’m accounting for this as follows:
>
> 2017-11-16 * Ienpw III, Bayushi, ProofTechnique deregistered
> Player:bayushi-50 Shinies = 0 Shinies
> Player:Ienpw III  -50 Shinies = 0 Shinies
> Player:ProofTechnique -24 Shinies = 0 Shinies
> Agora
>
> 2017-11-16 * Relevelling
> Agora-164 Shinies = 0 Shinies
> Relevelling:2017-11-16 (Deregistration)
>
> This leaves Agora with a balance of 0 sh., and 46 extra shinies sloshing
> around the system.
>
> -o
>
>


-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[VJ Rada]

ooh, supply value implications all up in this place

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Alexis Hunt  wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 18:12 Alex Smith  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 23:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > > I deregister Ienpw III, Bayushi, and ProofTechnique, with 3 Agoran
> > > Consent,
> > > resolving Telnaior's intent to do so. G., ATMunn, V.J Rada, and I
> > > supported. Only V.J. Rada objected.
> >
> > V.J. Rada both supported and objected? I can't remember offhand if
> > that's possible, but it's unlikely to be an intentional choice.
> >
> > --
> > ais523
> >
>
> E did, and as far as I can tell e changed eir mind but forgot to withdraw
> the support.
>



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[Alexis Hunt]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 18:12 Alex Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 23:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > I deregister Ienpw III, Bayushi, and ProofTechnique, with 3 Agoran
> > Consent,
> > resolving Telnaior's intent to do so. G., ATMunn, V.J Rada, and I
> > supported. Only V.J. Rada objected.
>
> V.J. Rada both supported and objected? I can't remember offhand if
> that's possible, but it's unlikely to be an intentional choice.
>
> --
> ais523
>

E did, and as far as I can tell e changed eir mind but forgot to withdraw
the support.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[Alex Smith]

On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 23:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> I deregister Ienpw III, Bayushi, and ProofTechnique, with 3 Agoran
> Consent,
> resolving Telnaior's intent to do so. G., ATMunn, V.J Rada, and I
> supported. Only V.J. Rada objected.

V.J. Rada both supported and objected? I can't remember offhand if
that's possible, but it's unlikely to be an intentional choice.

-- 
ais523

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[VJ Rada]

Can you post the full text of what "Boo!" does?

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:
> Accepted.
>
> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7948-7953 below.
>
> 
>
> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
>  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
>  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
>  decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
>  before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
> ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
> ---
> 7948*  o  1.0  FV Restoration   o   2 sh.
> 7949x  V.J. Rada  3.0  HYGAVTFT [7] V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> 7950*  G. 2.0  B!   G.  OP [2]
> 7951*  G. 1.0  Zombie Auctions  G.  OP [2]
> 7952*  G. 2.0  It LIVES G.  1 AP
> 7953*  Alexis 3.0  Vote Specification Fix   Alexis  1 AP
>
> | | 7948 | 7949 | 7950 | 7951 | 7952 | 7953 |
> |-+--+--+--+--+--+--+
> |Alexis   | FF   | AA   | AA   | AA   | FF   | FF   |
> |Aris | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |ATMunn   | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |o| F| A| F| A| A| F|
> |PSS  | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |Telnaior | F| A| A| F| F| F|
> |Trigon   | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |VJ Rada  | F| F| F| A| F| F|
> |-+--+--+--+--+--+--+
> |F/A  | 9/0  | 1/8  | 6/3  | 5/4  | 8/1  | 9/0  |
> |AI   | 1.0  | 3.0  | 2.0  | 1.0  | 2.0  | 3.0  |
> |V| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
> |Q| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
> |P| T| F| T| T| T| T|
>
> //
> ID: 7948
> Title: FV Restoration
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: o
> Co-authors:
>
>
> If rule 2456 (“The Treasuror”) does not already contain it, add the following
> paragraph to the end of that rule:
>
>   The Treasuror CAN flip the floating value once a week by announcement. As 
> part
>   of eir weekly duties, e SHALL flip the Floating Value to the number of 
> Shinies
>   owned by Agora; e SHALL NOT ever set it to a different value.
>   E SHOULD do this while publishing eir weekly report. If the Treasuror
>   discovers that e last flipped the floating value to an incorrect value and e
>   would not otherwise be able to set it again yet, e CAN and SHALL set the 
> value
>   to what it should have been set to in the first place by announcement.
>
> //
> ID: 7951
> Title: Zombie Auctions
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: G.
> Co-authors:
> OFFICIAL PROPOSAL
>
>
> Re-enact Rule 1885 (power-1) with a title "Zombie Auctions" and the
> following text:
>
>   Whenever a zombie has Agora for a master and an auction for it
>   is not underway or been won in the last seven days, then the
>   Registrar CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion, put the specified
>   zombie up for auction by announcement. Each auction ends seven
>   days after it begins.
>
>   During an auction, any player who is not a zombie CAN bid a
>   number of Shinies for the specified zombie by announcement.
>
>   The winner of the auction, if any, is the player who bids the
>   highest number of shinies, with ties broken in favor of the
>   earlier bidder.  The winner CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion,
>   flip the zombie's master to the winner by announcement, if e
>   pays Agora the amount of the bid for the explicit and sole
>   purpose of fulfilling this requirement. If there are no bids,
>   the auction has no winner.
>
>   If a zombie being auctioned ceases to have Agora as a master at
>   any time between the initiation of the auction and the winner
>   becoming the zombie's master (or failing to do so in a timely
>   fashion after the auction), then the auction has no winner, and
>   any obligations to pay for the zombie are voided.
>
> //
> ID: 7952
> Title: It LIVES
> Adoption index: 2.0
> Author: G.
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Increase the power of R1885 (Zombie Auctions) to 2.
>
> //
> ID: 7953
> Title: Vote Specification Fix
> Adoption index: 3.0
> Author: Alexis
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Amend rule 107 (Initiating Agoran Decisions) by replacing the list item "A 
> clear
> indication of the set of valid votes." with two list items: "The voting 

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[VJ Rada]

Dude, I didn't vote present on everything. I'm like 99 % sure of that.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:00 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> BOO! FAILED BUT ZOMBIE AUCTIONS PASSED UGH.
>
> what even happens now.
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
>> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7948-7953 below.
>>
>> 
>>
>> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
>>  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
>>  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
>>  decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
>>  before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
>> ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
>> ---
>> 7948*  o  1.0  FV Restoration   o   2 sh.
>> 7949x  V.J. Rada  3.0  HYGAVTFT [7] V.J. Rada   2 sh.
>> 7950x  G. 2.0  B!   G.  OP [2]
>> 7951*  G. 1.0  Zombie Auctions  G.  OP [2]
>> 7952*  G. 2.0  It LIVES G.  1 AP
>> 7953*  Alexis 3.0  Vote Specification Fix   Alexis  1 AP
>>
>> | | 7948 | 7949 | 7950 | 7951 | 7952 | 7953 |
>> |-+--+--+--+--+--+--+
>> |Alexis   | FF   | AA   | AA   | AA   | FF   | FF   |
>> |Aris | F| A| F| F| F| F|
>> |ATMunn   | F| A| F| F| F| F|
>> |o| F| A| F| A| A| F|
>> |PSS  | F| A| F| F| F| F|
>> |Telnaior | F| A| A| F| F| F|
>> |Trigon   | F| A| F| F| F| F|
>> |VJ Rada  | P| P| P| P| P| P|
>> |-+--+--+--+--+--+--+
>> |F/A  | 8/0  | 0/8  | 5/3  | 5/3  | 7/1  | 8/0  |
>> |AI   | 1.0  | 3.0  | 2.0  | 1.0  | 2.0  | 3.0  |
>> |V| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
>> |Q| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
>> |P| T| F| F| T| T| T|
>>
>> //
>> ID: 7948
>> Title: FV Restoration
>> Adoption index: 1.0
>> Author: o
>> Co-authors:
>>
>>
>> If rule 2456 (“The Treasuror”) does not already contain it, add the following
>> paragraph to the end of that rule:
>>
>>   The Treasuror CAN flip the floating value once a week by announcement. As 
>> part
>>   of eir weekly duties, e SHALL flip the Floating Value to the number of 
>> Shinies
>>   owned by Agora; e SHALL NOT ever set it to a different value.
>>   E SHOULD do this while publishing eir weekly report. If the Treasuror
>>   discovers that e last flipped the floating value to an incorrect value and 
>> e
>>   would not otherwise be able to set it again yet, e CAN and SHALL set the 
>> value
>>   to what it should have been set to in the first place by announcement.
>>
>> //
>> ID: 7951
>> Title: Zombie Auctions
>> Adoption index: 1.0
>> Author: G.
>> Co-authors:
>> OFFICIAL PROPOSAL
>>
>>
>> Re-enact Rule 1885 (power-1) with a title "Zombie Auctions" and the
>> following text:
>>
>>   Whenever a zombie has Agora for a master and an auction for it
>>   is not underway or been won in the last seven days, then the
>>   Registrar CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion, put the specified
>>   zombie up for auction by announcement. Each auction ends seven
>>   days after it begins.
>>
>>   During an auction, any player who is not a zombie CAN bid a
>>   number of Shinies for the specified zombie by announcement.
>>
>>   The winner of the auction, if any, is the player who bids the
>>   highest number of shinies, with ties broken in favor of the
>>   earlier bidder.  The winner CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion,
>>   flip the zombie's master to the winner by announcement, if e
>>   pays Agora the amount of the bid for the explicit and sole
>>   purpose of fulfilling this requirement. If there are no bids,
>>   the auction has no winner.
>>
>>   If a zombie being auctioned ceases to have Agora as a master at
>>   any time between the initiation of the auction and the winner
>>   becoming the zombie's master (or failing to do so in a timely
>>   fashion after the auction), then the auction has no winner, and
>>   any obligations to pay for the zombie are voided.
>>
>> //
>> ID: 7952
>> Title: It LIVES
>> Adoption index: 2.0
>> Author: G.
>> Co-authors:
>>
>>
>> Increase the power of R1885 (Zombie Auctions) to 2.
>>
>> 

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[VJ Rada]

BOO! FAILED BUT ZOMBIE AUCTIONS PASSED UGH.

what even happens now.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:
> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7948-7953 below.
>
> 
>
> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
>  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
>  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
>  decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
>  before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
> ID Author(s)  AI   TitlePender  Pend fee
> ---
> 7948*  o  1.0  FV Restoration   o   2 sh.
> 7949x  V.J. Rada  3.0  HYGAVTFT [7] V.J. Rada   2 sh.
> 7950x  G. 2.0  B!   G.  OP [2]
> 7951*  G. 1.0  Zombie Auctions  G.  OP [2]
> 7952*  G. 2.0  It LIVES G.  1 AP
> 7953*  Alexis 3.0  Vote Specification Fix   Alexis  1 AP
>
> | | 7948 | 7949 | 7950 | 7951 | 7952 | 7953 |
> |-+--+--+--+--+--+--+
> |Alexis   | FF   | AA   | AA   | AA   | FF   | FF   |
> |Aris | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |ATMunn   | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |o| F| A| F| A| A| F|
> |PSS  | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |Telnaior | F| A| A| F| F| F|
> |Trigon   | F| A| F| F| F| F|
> |VJ Rada  | P| P| P| P| P| P|
> |-+--+--+--+--+--+--+
> |F/A  | 8/0  | 0/8  | 5/3  | 5/3  | 7/1  | 8/0  |
> |AI   | 1.0  | 3.0  | 2.0  | 1.0  | 2.0  | 3.0  |
> |V| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
> |Q| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
> |P| T| F| F| T| T| T|
>
> //
> ID: 7948
> Title: FV Restoration
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: o
> Co-authors:
>
>
> If rule 2456 (“The Treasuror”) does not already contain it, add the following
> paragraph to the end of that rule:
>
>   The Treasuror CAN flip the floating value once a week by announcement. As 
> part
>   of eir weekly duties, e SHALL flip the Floating Value to the number of 
> Shinies
>   owned by Agora; e SHALL NOT ever set it to a different value.
>   E SHOULD do this while publishing eir weekly report. If the Treasuror
>   discovers that e last flipped the floating value to an incorrect value and e
>   would not otherwise be able to set it again yet, e CAN and SHALL set the 
> value
>   to what it should have been set to in the first place by announcement.
>
> //
> ID: 7951
> Title: Zombie Auctions
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: G.
> Co-authors:
> OFFICIAL PROPOSAL
>
>
> Re-enact Rule 1885 (power-1) with a title "Zombie Auctions" and the
> following text:
>
>   Whenever a zombie has Agora for a master and an auction for it
>   is not underway or been won in the last seven days, then the
>   Registrar CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion, put the specified
>   zombie up for auction by announcement. Each auction ends seven
>   days after it begins.
>
>   During an auction, any player who is not a zombie CAN bid a
>   number of Shinies for the specified zombie by announcement.
>
>   The winner of the auction, if any, is the player who bids the
>   highest number of shinies, with ties broken in favor of the
>   earlier bidder.  The winner CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion,
>   flip the zombie's master to the winner by announcement, if e
>   pays Agora the amount of the bid for the explicit and sole
>   purpose of fulfilling this requirement. If there are no bids,
>   the auction has no winner.
>
>   If a zombie being auctioned ceases to have Agora as a master at
>   any time between the initiation of the auction and the winner
>   becoming the zombie's master (or failing to do so in a timely
>   fashion after the auction), then the auction has no winner, and
>   any obligations to pay for the zombie are voided.
>
> //
> ID: 7952
> Title: It LIVES
> Adoption index: 2.0
> Author: G.
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Increase the power of R1885 (Zombie Auctions) to 2.
>
> //
> ID: 7953
> Title: Vote Specification Fix
> Adoption index: 3.0
> Author: Alexis
> Co-authors:
>
>
> Amend rule 107 (Initiating Agoran Decisions) by replacing the list item "A 
> clear
> indication of the set of valid votes." with two list items: "The 

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7948-7953

[Kerim Aydin]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> 7950x  G. 2.0  B!   G.  OP [2]
> 7951*  G. 1.0  Zombie Auctions  G.  OP [2]
> 7952*  G. 2.0  It LIVES G.  1 AP

Ooh, I like this.  "Whenever a zombie has agora for a master" we get
auctions, but zombies aren't defined.  one spooky star for Speaker 
Alexis (and time to deregister those folks?  sorry about that...)

Anyone want to make a contract with a Zombie asset and see what
happens there?