Re: DIS: Rules confuse me.

2017-09-25 Thread VJ Rada
Yeah rulekeeping is _very_ hard. The real state of the rules is not as
currently written in the ruleset, which is confusing, but yeah it's
really really hard.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> The FLR and SLR are sometimes behind because the rule keeper has
> a life.  :).  The "last change" is so players can read the SLR and know
> that proposals numbered after that aren't in there yet, though the "true
> state" of the rules at any given moment includes later stuff.
>
> The assessor is indeed late.  E apologized last week and said e would
> be late, and offered to set up an agency so someone could do it for em
> if they wanted (no one took me up on it).
>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Trigon wrote:
>> At the time that I'm writing this, the Full Logical Ruleset [1] claims that
>> the most recent change to the ruleset is the adoption of Proposal 7875,
>> "Better Accounting" [2]. This should have modified rules 2496 and 2497, but
>> the text that was proposed to be appended cannot be found. Additionally,
>> Proposal 7873 has not been added anywhere yet, despite the resolution post 
>> [2]
>> stating that it has passed.
>>
>> Additionally, Proposals 7875-7898 [3] were distributed 10 Sept 2017, and the
>> length of the voting period is 7 days, meaning that there should have been a
>> resolution post some time the next week, but there hasn't been one. In fact,
>> the last Assessor post was on the 7th.
>>
>> So, if someone could explain if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate that.
>>
>> [1] https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt
>> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08264.html
>> [3] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08268.html
>>
>> -- Trigon
>>
>



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>From V.J. Rada


Re: DIS: Rules confuse me.

2017-09-25 Thread Kerim Aydin


The FLR and SLR are sometimes behind because the rule keeper has
a life.  :).  The "last change" is so players can read the SLR and know 
that proposals numbered after that aren't in there yet, though the "true
state" of the rules at any given moment includes later stuff.

The assessor is indeed late.  E apologized last week and said e would
be late, and offered to set up an agency so someone could do it for em
if they wanted (no one took me up on it).

On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Trigon wrote:
> At the time that I'm writing this, the Full Logical Ruleset [1] claims that
> the most recent change to the ruleset is the adoption of Proposal 7875,
> "Better Accounting" [2]. This should have modified rules 2496 and 2497, but
> the text that was proposed to be appended cannot be found. Additionally,
> Proposal 7873 has not been added anywhere yet, despite the resolution post [2]
> stating that it has passed.
> 
> Additionally, Proposals 7875-7898 [3] were distributed 10 Sept 2017, and the
> length of the voting period is 7 days, meaning that there should have been a
> resolution post some time the next week, but there hasn't been one. In fact,
> the last Assessor post was on the 7th.
> 
> So, if someone could explain if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate that.
> 
> [1] https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt
> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08264.html
> [3] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08268.html
> 
> -- Trigon
>



Re: DIS: Rules confuse me.

2017-09-25 Thread VJ Rada
1. The rules are tissue paper, but Gaelan is the incumbent rulekeepor,
he is the only one who could have an answer
2. Assessing is hard.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Nic Evans  wrote:
>
>
> On 09/25/17 21:47, Trigon wrote:
>> At the time that I'm writing this, the Full Logical Ruleset [1] claims
>> that the most recent change to the ruleset is the adoption of Proposal
>> 7875, "Better Accounting" [2]. This should have modified rules 2496
>> and 2497, but the text that was proposed to be appended cannot be
>> found. Additionally, Proposal 7873 has not been added anywhere yet,
>> despite the resolution post [2] stating that it has passed.
>
> That's a question for the rulekeepor.
>
>>
>> Additionally, Proposals 7875-7898 [3] were distributed 10 Sept 2017,
>> and the length of the voting period is 7 days, meaning that there
>> should have been a resolution post some time the next week, but there
>> hasn't been one. In fact, the last Assessor post was on the 7th.
>
> I'm behind on those because of travel and the sheer volume of them. In
> general I try to assess within 7-14 days of distribution.
>
>>
>> So, if someone could explain if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate that.
>>
>> [1] https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt
>> [2]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08264.html
>> [3]
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08268.html
>>
>> -- Trigon
>
>



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>From V.J. Rada


Re: DIS: Rules confuse me.

2017-09-25 Thread Nic Evans


On 09/25/17 21:47, Trigon wrote:
> At the time that I'm writing this, the Full Logical Ruleset [1] claims
> that the most recent change to the ruleset is the adoption of Proposal
> 7875, "Better Accounting" [2]. This should have modified rules 2496
> and 2497, but the text that was proposed to be appended cannot be
> found. Additionally, Proposal 7873 has not been added anywhere yet,
> despite the resolution post [2] stating that it has passed.

That's a question for the rulekeepor.

>
> Additionally, Proposals 7875-7898 [3] were distributed 10 Sept 2017,
> and the length of the voting period is 7 days, meaning that there
> should have been a resolution post some time the next week, but there
> hasn't been one. In fact, the last Assessor post was on the 7th.

I'm behind on those because of travel and the sheer volume of them. In
general I try to assess within 7-14 days of distribution.

>
> So, if someone could explain if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate that.
>
> [1] https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt
> [2]
> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08264.html
> [3]
> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08268.html
>
> -- Trigon




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DIS: Rules confuse me.

2017-09-25 Thread Trigon
At the time that I'm writing this, the Full Logical Ruleset [1] claims 
that the most recent change to the ruleset is the adoption of Proposal 
7875, "Better Accounting" [2]. This should have modified rules 2496 and 
2497, but the text that was proposed to be appended cannot be found. 
Additionally, Proposal 7873 has not been added anywhere yet, despite the 
resolution post [2] stating that it has passed.


Additionally, Proposals 7875-7898 [3] were distributed 10 Sept 2017, and 
the length of the voting period is 7 days, meaning that there should 
have been a resolution post some time the next week, but there hasn't 
been one. In fact, the last Assessor post was on the 7th.


So, if someone could explain if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate that.

[1] https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt
[2] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08264.html
[3] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08268.html

-- Trigon