Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I propose that the use of Spivak pronouns, and the use of English, are cultural norms entrenched so deeply that, in a conflict between the rules of Agora and these norms, players will defer to those norms. That suggests that _changing_ those norms -

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, CuddleBeam wrote: > > > Makes for an interesting example to compare Agora to. I'll see if I can > > dredge the webmail archives to see how Agoran use of Spivak has arisen and > > evolved. Culture is interesting. > > Spivak use

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 10:12 +0100, V.J Rada wrote: > [...] the game ends, with >   no provision for starting another game. > > Um...glad this no longer exists lmao Nomic was originally intended as a game that works like a game, which would be played for a bit and then complete.

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread V.J Rada
If a player believes that the rules are such that further play is impossible, or that the legality of a move cannot be determined with finality, or that a move appears equally legal and illegal, then the player may invoke judgement on a statement to that effect. If the

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread V.J Rada
Not everything has to be a rule. Spivak can be encouraged but should not be mandated or prohibited. It's just language. There's also nothing banning me from saying plenty of words here, but that doesn't mean they're encouraged or allowed. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:31 AM, CuddleBeam

Re: Re: DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-30 Thread CuddleBeam
Issues about why Spivak is better or not aside, I got curious about why BlogNomic favors using layman language (it seems goes in hand with it being a much more casual nomic), versus Agora leaning towards Spivak, so I did a bit of digging. Apparently, there HAS been a time in Blognomic where

DIS: What's the Power of a cultural touchstone?

2017-06-29 Thread Owen Jacobson
One of Suber’s remarks is interesting, at this juncture: > If appropriate qualifications are made for the informality of custom and > etiquette, a case could be made that normal social life is just a system of > indefinite tiers. Near the top of the "difficult" end of the series, below >