Re: DIS: Who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points?

2020-06-16 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 19:36, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
 wrote:
> On 6/14/2020 12:15 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Small survey for who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points because barring a
> > scam surprising us, it’s going to be way harder to win if someone has to
> > compete with someone else to get that 20 VP margin.
> >
> > I personally would like to aim for VPs, but if anyone else is, I don’t mind
> > making a deal with them or just conceding the race in exchange for coins or
> > other stuff.
> >
>
> The fact that a VP win resets the whole economy means there may be
> significant pressure to stop it even from those who aren't trying to win.
> "Winning" by VPs is effectively economic revolution (destroys any existing
> oligarchy and makes everyone equal again).
>
> (I'm not committing to any strategy personally right now, just pointing
> that out - far to early to commit to a particular strategy).
>
> -G.

It seems to me winning is the point of a game, so I would probably try
to prevent people other than myself from winning just on that
principle (unless we're winning together).

- Falsifian


Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points?

2020-06-14 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I aim for commerce and I don’t think it’s that disastrous personally
because of how telegraphed it is. Its like if winter for the Vikings were
disastrous - no, not really, you can’t plant crops and stuff but you
prepare with salted stuff and whatnot. Everyone (should) know that a reset
is looming. So its not too big of a deal. At least that’s how I see it.

On Sunday, June 14, 2020, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> Cuddlebeam wrote:
> > G. wrote:
> >> Cuddlebeam wrote:
> >>> Small survey for who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points because
> barring a
> >>> scam surprising us, it’s going to be way harder to win if someone has
> to
> >>> compete with someone else to get that 20 VP margin.
> >>>
> >>> I personally would like to aim for VPs, but if anyone else is, I don’t
> >> mind
> >>> making a deal with them or just conceding the race in exchange for
> coins
> >> or
> >>> other stuff.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The fact that a VP win resets the whole economy means there may be
> >> significant pressure to stop it even from those who aren't trying to
> win.
> >> "Winning" by VPs is effectively economic revolution (destroys any
> existing
> >> oligarchy and makes everyone equal again).
> >>
> >> (I'm not committing to any strategy personally right now, just pointing
> >> that out - far to early to commit to a particular strategy).
> >
> > Not the whole economy? It doesn’t reset Coins or cross-reset debts in
> > Contracts
> If I were a trader or trying to run a trading system, having assets
> destroyed when there's outstanding debts sounds like a nightmare.  If I
> doing that, I'd be actively going for stability by destroying every VC/VP
> I could lay my hands on (and I'd better have some "in case of win"
> language in my contract).
>
> This could be interesting...
>
>


Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points?

2020-06-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


Cuddlebeam wrote:
> G. wrote:
>> Cuddlebeam wrote:
>>> Small survey for who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points because barring a
>>> scam surprising us, it’s going to be way harder to win if someone has to
>>> compete with someone else to get that 20 VP margin.
>>>
>>> I personally would like to aim for VPs, but if anyone else is, I don’t
>> mind
>>> making a deal with them or just conceding the race in exchange for coins
>> or
>>> other stuff.
>>>
>>
>> The fact that a VP win resets the whole economy means there may be
>> significant pressure to stop it even from those who aren't trying to win.
>> "Winning" by VPs is effectively economic revolution (destroys any existing
>> oligarchy and makes everyone equal again).
>>
>> (I'm not committing to any strategy personally right now, just pointing
>> that out - far to early to commit to a particular strategy).
>
> Not the whole economy? It doesn’t reset Coins or cross-reset debts in
> Contracts
If I were a trader or trying to run a trading system, having assets
destroyed when there's outstanding debts sounds like a nightmare.  If I
doing that, I'd be actively going for stability by destroying every VC/VP
I could lay my hands on (and I'd better have some "in case of win"
language in my contract).

This could be interesting...



Re: DIS: Who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points?

2020-06-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 6/14/2020 12:15 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> Small survey for who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points because barring a
> scam surprising us, it’s going to be way harder to win if someone has to
> compete with someone else to get that 20 VP margin.
> 
> I personally would like to aim for VPs, but if anyone else is, I don’t mind
> making a deal with them or just conceding the race in exchange for coins or
> other stuff.
> 

The fact that a VP win resets the whole economy means there may be
significant pressure to stop it even from those who aren't trying to win.
"Winning" by VPs is effectively economic revolution (destroys any existing
oligarchy and makes everyone equal again).

(I'm not committing to any strategy personally right now, just pointing
that out - far to early to commit to a particular strategy).

-G.



DIS: Who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points?

2020-06-14 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Small survey for who is aiming for Victory Cards/Points because barring a
scam surprising us, it’s going to be way harder to win if someone has to
compete with someone else to get that 20 VP margin.

I personally would like to aim for VPs, but if anyone else is, I don’t mind
making a deal with them or just conceding the race in exchange for coins or
other stuff.