Re: DIS: reality check

2018-06-04 Thread Edward Murphy
G. wrote: FRC launched around Feb-Mar 1993 (it's listed with other committees in the "Seventh Month" summary here: http://www.nomic.net/deadgames/nomicworld/norrish/ which matches my memory of writing the Nomic World committee rules over the 92-93 winter holidays). A question would be whether i

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2018-05-26 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 27 May 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: The unundead Running on ununennium... Greetings, Ørjan.

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2018-05-26 Thread Cuddle Beam
The unundead On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Will also make it retroactive to cover PSS and anyone else who decides > to dezombify before it's adopted. > > On Sat, 26 May 2018, C. V. wrote: > > ​Sorry PSS, but I think all of your assets have been thoroughly siphoned > >

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2018-05-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
Will also make it retroactive to cover PSS and anyone else who decides to dezombify before it's adopted. On Sat, 26 May 2018, C. V. wrote: > ​Sorry PSS, but I think all of your assets have been thoroughly siphoned > off by VJ Rada. (We seriously need to get that welcome package for former > zomb

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-26 Thread Nicholas Evans
I've been reading and have a proposal I want to get out in June (not concerning to current economic game), but need to wait for an updated ruleset, and don't have any plans to do anything in the interim. So feel free to continue to use my zombieness. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 9:07 PM, Ørjan Johansen

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2018-05-26 Thread C. V.
​Sorry PSS, but I think all of your assets have been thoroughly siphoned off by VJ Rada. (We seriously need to get that welcome package for former zombies thing going) ~Corona On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Ned Strange wrote: > Noo! MY POWER IN THIS GAME IS GONE. > > welcome back > >

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2018-05-25 Thread Ned Strange
Noo! MY POWER IN THIS GAME IS GONE. welcome back On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Yes it was possible and yes you just did so. > > Great to have you (almost or in summer) back!! > > On Fri, 25 May 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > Given my imminen

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 25 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: The age-old refugee problem - that's kind of like arguing about whether Battlestar Galactica starting a colony is a "true" continuation of its homeworld. IIRC (just from some conversations back then), even while in NW, FRC just wanted to play its own game

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 25 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: Nice! With legally contiguous ordinances, it might even be argued that FRC is still the last legal remnant of NW and dates to the start of NW. (If NW was just taken down from access without a legal Rules-statement that it ended, it could be a platonic ex

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2018-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yes it was possible and yes you just did so. Great to have you (almost or in summer) back!! On Fri, 25 May 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Given my imminent return, if it is possible to do so, I flip my master > switch to myself. > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 19:29 Publius Scribonius

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Just saw this thread and wanted to mention that as the summer rolls around, I may return. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 19:08 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO > > though I think the software we're using was actually a MUD: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD > > On Sat, 26 M

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO though I think the software we're using was actually a MUD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD On Sat, 26 May 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > What's MOO? > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:45 AM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > > It wouldn't work over email,

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Cuddle Beam
> Does anyone have FRC's old rules? I meant NW's old rules, sorry. Derp. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > OH MAN. > > What if we managed to "hack" the defunct NW via FRC, to then pull it into > a better place (like a mailing list or Discord server) so that it can be > playe

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2018-05-25 Thread Cuddle Beam
What's MOO? On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:45 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > It wouldn't work over email, but this conversation also had me wondering > whether the MOO and its final state lived on a disk anywhere! > > The rules and the MOO structure (rooms and programming) were very > intertwined, >

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
It wouldn't work over email, but this conversation also had me wondering whether the MOO and its final state lived on a disk anywhere! The rules and the MOO structure (rooms and programming) were very intertwined, e.g. the rules assume a MOO-programmed-solution for voting and all other interact

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Cuddle Beam
It would definitely strip it of a lot of its former "spirit" although isn't nomic about change in the first place? But yeah, it more about the formal gimmick. Not "reviving" the spirit of Nomic World itself. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 18:07 +0200

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 18:07 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote: > OH MAN. > > What if we managed to "hack" the defunct NW via FRC, to then pull it into a > better place (like a mailing list or Discord server) so that it can be > played again? > > Does anyone have FRC's old rules? How difficult could it be?

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Cuddle Beam
OH MAN. What if we managed to "hack" the defunct NW via FRC, to then pull it into a better place (like a mailing list or Discord server) so that it can be played again? Does anyone have FRC's old rules? How difficult could it be? On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 25 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 25 May 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > > The FRC /is/ probably still part of Nomic World's gamestate, though. > > It's just that Nomic World itself is no longer a nomic because there's > > no way to change its rules. > > > > (That said, the culture at

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2018-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 25 May 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > The FRC /is/ probably still part of Nomic World's gamestate, though. > It's just that Nomic World itself is no longer a nomic because there's > no way to change its rules. > > (That said, the culture at the FRC is such that trying to make any > radical ch

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 05:55 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Nice! With legally contiguous ordinances, it might even be argued that FRC > is still the last legal remnant of NW and dates to the start of NW. (If NW > was just taken down from access without a legal Rules-statement that it ended, > it co

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Nice! With legally contiguous ordinances, it might even be argued that FRC is still the last legal remnant of NW and dates to the start of NW. (If NW was just taken down from access without a legal Rules-statement that it ended, it could be a platonic existing nomic that thinks "the universe h

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-24 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 24 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: FRC launched around Feb-Mar 1993 (it's listed with other committees in the "Seventh Month" summary here: http://www.nomic.net/deadgames/nomicworld/norrish/ which matches my memory of writing the Nomic World committee rules over the 92-93 winter holidays).

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
FRC launched around Feb-Mar 1993 (it's listed with other committees in the "Seventh Month" summary here: http://www.nomic.net/deadgames/nomicworld/norrish/ which matches my memory of writing the Nomic World committee rules over the 92-93 winter holidays). A question would be whether its game

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Aris Merchant
We may not even be the world's longest running internet nomic. Presuming the current FRC broke off directly from the original (which is pretty likely, given the nomenclature and traditions), that's been up longer than us. -Aris On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:56 PM Ned Strange wrote: > are we the wo

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Ned Strange
are we the world's longest running internet game? On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I was wondering a couple months back if a 25-year anniversary was an > occasion for posting on various forums (e.g. a "hey check out a nomic > that's been going for 25 years). > > On Wed,

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
I was wondering a couple months back if a 25-year anniversary was an occasion for posting on various forums (e.g. a "hey check out a nomic that's been going for 25 years). On Wed, 23 May 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Aside from poaching other nomics for players lol, what is a good approach > for re

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Cuddle Beam
Aside from poaching other nomics for players lol, what is a good approach for recruiting? Posting in reddits/forums I guess? We could make a common copypasta for advertisement and go around with that. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 May 2018, Ned Strange wr

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 24 May 2018, Ned Strange wrote: > Can we recruit new players lol? I miss o for one. And the japanese > character guy. 6-7 is far less than we once had. Yah it kind of got lost in the last exchange but that was a point... PSS too...

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Ned Strange
Can we recruit new players lol? I miss o for one. And the japanese character guy. 6-7 is far less than we once had. On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 May 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > What could maybe be done is have Offices be "self-service" in a way. If > you

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 23 May 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > What could maybe be done is have Offices be "self-service" in a way. If you > want to do something related to it, you look for the last mail and continue > the chain. > > It would be a different Office paradigm though. But maybe it works. With > the curr

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 23 May 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > So the only one to attribute balance/needing a reset as a reason for not > > playing > was CuddleBeam? > > Also, to clarify, I much prefer a reset to a nerf. I don't like nerfs. From > my point of view, you earned the power you have. Game balance is t

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Cuddle Beam
> So the only one to attribute balance/needing a reset as a reason for not > playing was CuddleBeam? Also, to clarify, I much prefer a reset to a nerf. I don't like nerfs. From my point of view, you earned the power you have. Game balance is totally not a problem for me - because I believe that i

Re: DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Cuddle Beam
What could maybe be done is have Offices be "self-service" in a way. If you want to do something related to it, you look for the last mail and continue the chain. It would be a different Office paradigm though. But maybe it works. With the current system, Offices don't scale well with low activity

DIS: reality check

2018-05-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 22 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > VJ. Rada and PSS voted FOR, Trigon, Aris, ATMunn, G. (counted twice), > and o voted AGAINST, and Murphy voted PRESENT. ok, looking at this voting list, these are all the folks that have kept playing recently, and those frustrated with the current gam