Re: BUS: Re: DIS: secured

2015-07-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, Tanner Swett wrote:
 I submit a proposal, with an AI of 3, titled Secure, secures,
 securing, secured: In Rule 1688 Power, change the phrase A Rule
 that secures a change, action, or value to A Rule that makes a
 change, action, or value secured.

Well that's a nice simple fix :)






Re: DIS: secured

2015-07-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



Sorry about blank replies; unfamiliar typing device.





Re: DIS: secured

2015-07-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, tmanthe2nd . wrote:
 Oh, thanks. I tried searching for secured. I should have tried other forms 
 of the word.


I'm always forgetting where that definition is; it's particularly
well-hidden.





Re: DIS: secured

2015-07-29 Thread Kerim Aydin



On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, tmanthe2nd . wrote:

 Oh, thanks. I tried searching for secured. I should have tried other forms 
 of the word.
 
 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca 
 wrote:
   On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:36 PM, tmanthe2nd . trstnbrd...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
So, I'm new here. When I read the rules, I noticed many mentions of 
 things
being secured, but I couldn't find a definition for that. What does 
 it
mean?
 
 See Rule 1688, Power.
 
 -scshunt
 
 
 




DIS: secured

2015-07-28 Thread tmanthe2nd .
So, I'm new here. When I read the rules, I noticed many mentions of things
being secured, but I couldn't find a definition for that. What does it
mean?


Re: DIS: secured

2015-07-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:36 PM, tmanthe2nd . trstnbrd...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I'm new here. When I read the rules, I noticed many mentions of things
 being secured, but I couldn't find a definition for that. What does it
 mean?

See Rule 1688, Power.

-scshunt


Re: DIS: secured

2015-07-28 Thread tmanthe2nd .
Oh, thanks. I tried searching for secured. I should have tried other
forms of the word.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:36 PM, tmanthe2nd . trstnbrd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So, I'm new here. When I read the rules, I noticed many mentions of
 things
  being secured, but I couldn't find a definition for that. What does it
  mean?

 See Rule 1688, Power.

 -scshunt



DIS: Secured

2014-06-13 Thread Henri Bouchard
What does it mean when something is secured?

-Henri


Re: DIS: Secured

2014-06-13 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote:
 What does it mean when something is secured?

 -Henri

I means that it's attached to something that'll prevent it from moving
around too much.

...oh, you mean in game. Well, quoting Rule 1688, Power:

  A Rule that secures a change, action, or value (hereafter the
  securing Rule) thereby makes it IMPOSSIBLE to perform that
  change or action, or to set or modify that value, except as
  allowed by an Instrument with Power greater than or equal to the
  change's Power Threshold.  This Threshold defaults to the
  securing Rule's Power, but CAN be lowered as allowed by that
  Rule (including by the Rule itself).

So yeah, if T is secured with Power 3, you can only change T using
something that has *at least* Power 3. Which, in a way, *is* attaching
T to a rule to prevent it from changing too much, so I guess I wasn't
too far off. (^_^)

~ Bloody Ocean


Re: DIS: Secured

2014-06-13 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Jonathan Rouillard
jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote:

 I means that it's attached to something that'll prevent it from moving
 around too much.

 ...oh, you mean in game. Well, quoting Rule 1688, Power:

   A Rule that secures a change, action, or value (hereafter the
   securing Rule) thereby makes it IMPOSSIBLE to perform that
   change or action, or to set or modify that value, except as
   allowed by an Instrument with Power greater than or equal to the
   change's Power Threshold.  This Threshold defaults to the
   securing Rule's Power, but CAN be lowered as allowed by that
   Rule (including by the Rule itself).

 So yeah, if T is secured with Power 3, you can only change T using
 something that has *at least* Power 3. Which, in a way, *is* attaching
 T to a rule to prevent it from changing too much, so I guess I wasn't
 too far off. (^_^)

 ~ Bloody Ocean

That's what I thought, but does that mean Rule 2130 (How to be shown
to the door) does not work because it is a Power 2 rule?

-Henri


Re: DIS: Secured

2014-06-13 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what I thought, but does that mean Rule 2130 (How to be shown
 to the door) does not work because it is a Power 2 rule?

 -Henri

... I don't see why it'd work at the moment. That and Writs of FAGE, either.

Sounds broken! I like it. Can anyone confirm/infirm? =P

~ Red Sea


Re: DIS: Secured

2014-06-13 Thread omd
Nice catch.  Relevant history entry:

Power changed from 2 to 3 by Proposal 7610 (G.), 22 December 2013

Regarding the current roster, I believe the Registrar's Report of 4
June has self-ratified; it was the first to be published after my
proposal to make switch reports self-ratifying.