Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Forbes 500

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
You're correct, I do apologise. I will publish a revision shortly. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, January 14, 2019 9:57 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Ah, I just saw that you also noticed it before I did. I do have a > legitimate CoE though: I collected a reward for the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Clork] House of Snerds

2019-01-15 Thread Gaelan Steele
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:47 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > [ Clork's Notes - Not for Publication ]

Re: [Proposal] (was: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Astronomor] State of the Art)

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
twg wrote: > I submit this proposal: Thanks for the quick response and solution!! > Incidentally, I selected you and D. Margaux to attack because the two of > you have the most coins and therefore are the biggest threats. I guess > that doesn't hold true if you don't want to play at all

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Astronomor] State of the Art

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
I wasn't particularly interested in playing space. Which is fine, and I didn't read it closely. But it looks like I'm required to respond - is that correct? If spaaace has made sub-games mandatory (another player can force my response with a SHALL?) my preferred option would be to deregister

DIS: Re: OFF: [Clork] House of Snerds

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Oh dear, I'm not having a very good day for errors, am I. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 3:05 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > > > On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:47 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > [ Clork's Notes - Not for Publication ]

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8139-8141

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 1/15/2019 5:44 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: In a timely fashion after a Space Battle is initiated, the combatants SHALL each once communicate to the resolver the amount of Energy they wish to spend in the battle, via any method that cannot be understood by the other combatant until e

DIS: Re: BUS: RIP

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
"And I'm joining you live from Agora's Lost and Found Department, where a large Spaceship has appeared in the central office, causing widespread damage. Projected casualties number in the dozens..." -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:28 PM, D. Margaux wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8139-8141

2019-01-15 Thread D. Margaux
Another issue that has just arisen in my battle is, what do you do when the resolver controls a zombie that’s engaged in the battle? Don’t really know how the zombie can “communicate” the choice to the resolver there! Hash would be fine if it worked, but it may be broken. It doesn’t work

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Actually, I don't think this is the same scenario. twgese is just a mechanism for ensuring that the value of the number Tenhigitsune has announced is unknown to D. Margaux; the nature of the action that is being taken is perfectly cromulent to everybody. (Unless it fails for another reason.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
omg I haven't nkep'd anything in years. On 1/15/2019 1:22 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 21:18 +, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I act on behalf of Tenhigitsune to announce that e will spend rau Energy in Space Battle 0001, where "rau" is a word in twgese, which is a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 21:22 +, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 21:18 +, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > I act on behalf of Tenhigitsune to announce that e will spend rau > > Energy in Space Battle 0001, where "rau" is a word in twgese, which > > is a constructed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I see your Rule 2466/1 and raise you CFJ 3649. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:41 PM, D. Margaux wrote: > > > > On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > I act on behalf of Tenhigitsune to announce that e will spend rau

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
There's a fairly established set of decisions that says public communication has to be intelligible to "a typical Agoran" and not just a single Agoran - that's the AGAINT precedents, arguably more famous than nkep. History of AGAINT: Someone privately communicated with the Assessor ahead of

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8139-8141

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 1/15/2019 1:07 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: See this would all have been very useful feedback BEFORE the proposal > passed... :P Honestly, on reflection, I think I could have read those passages 100 times in the abstract editorial mode and not noticed all these intricacies; it's amazing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Oh gosh, that's brilliant. I wish I'd known about it, I'd have reused the word. I have no idea what its implications are for this, though. Case law makes everything more complicated. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:22 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8139-8141

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
See this would all have been very useful feedback BEFORE the proposal passed... :P I don't think this entirely breaks spaaace as a whole, because each combatant (if e actually wants to play the subgame) is motivated to get a number in before the deadline (as otherwise e would automatically

DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 21:18 +, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I act on behalf of Tenhigitsune to announce that e will spend rau > Energy in Space Battle 0001, where "rau" is a word in twgese, which > is a constructed language invented by me. (Other twgese words include > "quang" and "spaaace") >

DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread D. Margaux
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > I act on behalf of Tenhigitsune to announce that e will spend rau Energy in > Space Battle 0001, where "rau" is a word in twgese, which is a constructed > language invented by me. (Other twgese words include "quang" and "spaaace".)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
Actually, this really convinces me that this rule makes it impossible (in a real sense) to play with public announcements (hashes etc). Because it's impossible to "communicate with the resolver" in a manner that "cannot be understood" by the other combatant. If the communication relies solely

DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:24 PM, D. Margaux wrote: > I cause L to point eir finger at twg for violating special relativity. In > particular, twg is the resolver, and in eir message e “reveal[ed] the Energy > a combatant is spending before both combatants have made their decisions” >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread D. Margaux
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:49 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > Actually, at the time you posted the quoted message, "rau" meant "a pigeon or > dove", so your statement is clearly incorrect. twgese is, after all, an > evolving language - the meanings of words change all the time. I apologize, I

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8143-8145 and 8142

2019-01-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I resolve the Agoran Decisions to adopt each of Proposals 8143, 8144, 8145 and 8142, in that order, as follows. I'll do 8139-8141 after lunch. (I know this is a controversial use of Assessor powers, but if you will keep voting for proposals about

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread D. Margaux
Here’s a thought experiment to sharpen the point. Imagine that I don’t know any Spanish at all, but I’ve been told that “uno” is a number in that language (but not which number it is). I then give the message, “I spend uno energy.” If twg speaks Spanish and knows that word, then have I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: RIP

2019-01-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: "And I'm joining you live from Agora's Lost and Found Department, where a large Spaceship has appeared in the central office, causing widespread damage. Projected casualties number in the dozens..." Spaceships are destructible. Reading rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto-judgement: The exact CFJ statement does not extend the quote far enough. The full text is: > SHALL each once communicate to the resolver the amount > of Energy they wish to spend in the battle, via any method that > cannot be understood by the other combatant until e has

DIS: Re: BUS: I realise this is extremely ridiculous, but

2019-01-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I act on behalf of Tenhigitsune to announce that e will spend rau Energy in Space Battle 0001, where "rau" is a word in twgese, which is a constructed language invented by me. (Other twgese words include "quang" and "spaaace".) Go ahead, CFJ